anyone banned who uses vp network service?
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my account got banned and i used v.p.n
So far, it's looking like there is something being monitored in-game, that is causing these suspensions. I don't think DB has been detected, as I've leveled up two dh's to 60 in the last week 24/7 and haven't been banned, as well as botted sarkoth the entire time they were leveling and I have yet to be banned. There is probably a correlation to things that are inhuman:
What is liking causing bans:
As of right now, all the bans are speculative. Some of these users who are reporting bans could have dabbled in Auto-it scripts; macros to swap gear to mf gear faster than humanly possible; other bots - Immortal Bot (Leavegame hack, anyone?), they could have used maphacks when they hand played. Out of all the posts, there has been 2-3 people who probably got banned out of sheer numbers of bots active and able to be linked to their respective accounts, as well as other botters, these people were expecting to be banned at some point though, and posted relevant information.
A *** would be an extra layer of protection, but it'll only offer you up a new IP and help you get past things like blocked websites or ports etc. Your IP is irrelevant to blizzard, considering your ISP could provide the same IPs to your apartment complex or neighborhood or your employer's entire office building/complex, regardless of how many business are there.
I would suggest maintaining seperate hardware ID's over a ***.
- leaving, joining games faster than an average persons ability to do so.
- kills per day on any given monster, boss or no. There are ways to figure these statistics out, I'm 99% sure that this would be a relevant thing monitored by activision.
- playing while error messages are up - I couldn't do it effectively when I played by hand. Not saying this is monitor-able, but it could be possible.
- gold looted per day, per hour.
- games per hour.
- Multi-boxing has been verified as safe via blizzard. Multiboxing, is possible and I do it occasionally, but max is 4. I would suggest that 4+ clients should be used on a VM or a totally different machine, for a new hardware ID. Your IP won't matter.
What is liking causing bans:
- Users botting, crashing regularly due to things that shouldn't cause crashes if you're playing the way the game meant to be played.. I.e. by clicking the options/monsters/etc or using keybindings, not sending spellids to attack.
- length of time botting is irrelevant, some users have been banned after 24/7, and 5/7. Obviously, 24/7 is humanly impossible, but for short periods of time (2-3 days [24/3]) is probably acceptable.
- Bot not pathing correctly, triggering a statistical event over and over and over, and the botter is AFK and unable to fix the bot - no human will run into a wall talking to an npc or using an object over and over again.
- Talking about botting, or other eula breaking things via in-game chat. (How dumb can you be?)
- (my personal opinion) is that American courts will protect blizzard, as was the case with bots like Glider etc. Blizzard was able to shut pirox bots down, based out of germany, and is probably buckliing down on EU botters and publishers (DB, etc.) because they can stop American bots much easier, and if EU botting gets hammered and stopped or slowed, America will be affected as well, killing two birds with one stone.
- B.net accounts reputation. If you played wow, got banned for botting in wow, what's going to stop you from botting any other blizzard game? You had your warning during WoW, though, all they'll just say that you can read the eula and found to be breaking it, and not throw that in your face, blatantly like that.
- Trading large quantities of gold to known gold buyers/botters/resellers/flagged accounts/all of the above mentioned in this post.
As of right now, all the bans are speculative. Some of these users who are reporting bans could have dabbled in Auto-it scripts; macros to swap gear to mf gear faster than humanly possible; other bots - Immortal Bot (Leavegame hack, anyone?), they could have used maphacks when they hand played. Out of all the posts, there has been 2-3 people who probably got banned out of sheer numbers of bots active and able to be linked to their respective accounts, as well as other botters, these people were expecting to be banned at some point though, and posted relevant information.
A *** would be an extra layer of protection, but it'll only offer you up a new IP and help you get past things like blocked websites or ports etc. Your IP is irrelevant to blizzard, considering your ISP could provide the same IPs to your apartment complex or neighborhood or your employer's entire office building/complex, regardless of how many business are there.
I would suggest maintaining seperate hardware ID's over a ***.
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foursecondpin
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Just curious what words keep getting filtered by the forums? This is the 2nd or 3rd similar topic with alot of censored words.
words that can cause problems to bosslands current injunction or other cases in or out of litigation, drug names i.e. ***** (c.r.a.c.k), normal racial words, etc.
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I agree with most of this except I know people who fall asleep at the wheel, get drunk pass out and otherwise run into walls, face plant ect so odd behavior may be a small factor but human can do it. My lawyer said blizard can not ban for playing drunk and passing out....
Good post Farix!
IP should be irrelevant for Bans in most cases since ISPs assign multible users (50+) to one public IP Address (at least the cable companies in EU do so.. US should be the same). So its quite normal for Blizz to see 50x Diablo or WoW running from one IP Address...
HW ID is another story.. If they are checking these its not a good idea to run 6+ Clients over one PC. But from the Ban reports (5 from 6 accs got Bannd...) i doubt that they are consequently checking it.
IP should be irrelevant for Bans in most cases since ISPs assign multible users (50+) to one public IP Address (at least the cable companies in EU do so.. US should be the same). So its quite normal for Blizz to see 50x Diablo or WoW running from one IP Address...
HW ID is another story.. If they are checking these its not a good idea to run 6+ Clients over one PC. But from the Ban reports (5 from 6 accs got Bannd...) i doubt that they are consequently checking it.
@Farix
I've begun thinking the same. Other bots that faced massive ban waves were so easy to detect it was a matter of tracing them all at once and pressing the doomsday button.
But now that DB and IB have been found to be difficult to detect, they've resorted to tracing behaviors and patterns. And no, even if you're wasted, you won't be hitting the wall or talking to the same NPC for 18 hours straight. I'm sorry, but that's not how drunkenness works.
I've begun thinking the same. Other bots that faced massive ban waves were so easy to detect it was a matter of tracing them all at once and pressing the doomsday button.
But now that DB and IB have been found to be difficult to detect, they've resorted to tracing behaviors and patterns. And no, even if you're wasted, you won't be hitting the wall or talking to the same NPC for 18 hours straight. I'm sorry, but that's not how drunkenness works.
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think what you like I have seen it live and in person no interwebz needed expose yourself to more drunk people.
for that matter I have seen my son face plant irl, continue to run and pull raid bosses before we kicked once kicked he kept on running into the wall! as long as he keeps running no dc. you obviously need a much bigger picture of life
even better story; back when I was hacking d2 I would go days without sleep and often slept sitting up at work while programming. think I am lieing to you true story is true code even worked damn hated that job doing 3d to 2d conversion for lpd17 spec books
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Well, as you know, you can see your account infomation ingame, about how much gold you have farmed and so on, and offcause that is stored in a database, and they will search that database once a while, and you could assume that anyone with +100 mil gold farmed is botting, and just check them out, Thats how i think they are banning
Xsol, nothing personal but from the sheer fact you took the time to ask a lawyer if blizzard could ban for being drunk and passing out, tells me you a. either didn't speak to a lawyer and are just attempting (miserably) to troll, or, b.) you spoke to a lawyer, and have no common sense or intellect of your own. It's also unlikely you have a kid, considering how you talk about them - most adults (keyword here) don't talk about their kids like that, especially in an analogy. Also, if you were a programmer you'd probably have a greater appreciation for proper sentence structure and punctuation. It would be habit.
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Amen.
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what about script detection?
what does it mean?
ok listen
we all farm sarkoth or do other farming runs all the day or 5-10-24 hours everyday.
maybe bli$$ can detect something gph or 1000 sarkoth kills per day what ever...what is NOT human. in bli$$ eyes..
so warden detect you but the wont ban all ppl like 100%
look
1000 ppl. get caught by warden with some detection..
SO to prev. and hide how warden works bli$$ dont ban 100% they do a random ban from these 1000 ppl. they only ban 30% of these.
thats why some ppl. get banned and some not. thats the only thing that make sense.
and thats why ppl. get banned with only botting 5 hours and other not with 24/7
what do you think about these theory?
what does it mean?
ok listen
we all farm sarkoth or do other farming runs all the day or 5-10-24 hours everyday.
maybe bli$$ can detect something gph or 1000 sarkoth kills per day what ever...what is NOT human. in bli$$ eyes..
so warden detect you but the wont ban all ppl like 100%
look
1000 ppl. get caught by warden with some detection..
SO to prev. and hide how warden works bli$$ dont ban 100% they do a random ban from these 1000 ppl. they only ban 30% of these.
thats why some ppl. get banned and some not. thats the only thing that make sense.
and thats why ppl. get banned with only botting 5 hours and other not with 24/7
what do you think about these theory?
IB shut down markers for pathing in one of the latest builds. So every run is random now. IB hasnt any banwave yet.
HB uses profiles, one banwave. DB uses profiles, first banwave. Every game looks exactly like the others. There is no random things, no delays, nothing... Always the same steps, routes, and so on...
HB uses profiles, one banwave. DB uses profiles, first banwave. Every game looks exactly like the others. There is no random things, no delays, nothing... Always the same steps, routes, and so on...
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DB hasn't had a banwave yet... Just people got unlucky. Like the Devs said, if there were a actual banwave they would shut down nav servers until it was figured out.
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or I was drunk you forgot the correct answer