Anybody get banned in 4.0.3a?

[ashaku1985]

I lost 5 80 char in this month...

only one is using GB and got report so banned.

(PvPed at soul healer, keep rescue again and again,so banned...)



I am afraid now,

Is new version of GB safe?

I dont try it yet,

If you are using GB , and good, please replay this post,

Let everyone knows GB is the best bot !!!

 

[atg68]

i used GB for about 6 hours today since it came out and i'm still here ...

 

[incognitto]

ive been 6 bots on gb since it was released no issues yet

 

[ownage4j00]

if they were going to ban people it wouldn't be right away lol, it'd most likely be a mass ban like always...

 

[ashaku1985]

Really? I thought wow ban is as soon as fast they can?

 

[ownage4j00]

how does that make sense? It would obviously show that they knew about the bot and therefore had it detected so why not hold off till say a couple weeks/months then one huge mass ban??

 

[goodmorning]

Common sense would tell you that Blizz doesn't hold out on bans for a certain amount of time. The purpose in bans is to keep players from achieving items/achievements in the game through automation. If you have ever been banned, a key statement in the email they send you is: "the use of these types of programs has a tremendous negative impact on the game and other players. This impact can take many forms including an inflated game economy and server instability." For Blizz to knowingly allow players to continue using bots, once an account has been confirmed to use third party software, is rediculous. Not so much for the botter, but the impact it would have on other players. For instance, one botter selling hers/ores on the ah, undercutting legit farmers........granted, the effect on the botters account is pointless as to when the account is banned, but what about the effect and loss of gold to the legit farmer who has now lost agreat deal of gold because the botter continously underbit him/her on the ah. The simple truth of the matter is that it would only make sense for Blizz to ban account instantly once they confimed botting activity.

This is the second time I've had to correct you. Banwaves have been WELL DOCUMENTED and DO EXIST. Ask anyone who used LuaNinja or LuaFoo or WoWMimic or Gen1 Gatherbuddy or Glider.

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world...-release-luaninja-run-protected-lua-code.html

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/bots-programs/257067-gatherbuddy-banwave.html

http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=148301

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/general/25053-mass-ban-wave-woohoo.html

http://onwarden.blogspot.com/2008/05/may-20th-ban-wave-wow-242.html

I can post more links.

None of them are relevant, however, as I don't see another ban wave happening.

 

[goodmorning]

Banwaves exhist because the bot was detected, not because Blizz saved all their bans up and decided to ban everyone at once.

You're halfway wrong. Yes, the bot was detected - but they didn't ban straight away in ANY of those cases.

I used LuaNinja for 2 months before the ban hit, many used it even longer. The case was the same for all the other ban waves. That's the definition of a ban wave.

 

[goodmorning]

And, may I ask, how do you know the actual date inwhich any was detected in relation to when you were banned?

Did you even read the threads? Do I have to pound this into your head? I quote Apoc, speaking of Gatherbuddy back in 2009 -

I wouldn't suggest using it for a while. It's been being detected since Aug 29th. You can blame me for getting it banned. (Via LuaFoo)

I'll send some code to the devs to fix up the detection issue.

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world...s/257067-gatherbuddy-banwave.html#post1666798

 

[ryder1337]

And, may I ask, how do you know the actual date inwhich any bot was detected in relation to when you were banned?

I can give you a very good example. Do you remember WowGremlin?
It was there for a short period of time, but it had some of the same code as Mimicand was detected by blizzard Dec the 19th last year. The bans didn't rule out before January. I had a friend that used it.
Also, you remember the 9/11 for botters? Think it was 20th may 2009 or 2008.

If that wasn't a banwave, then please tell me what it was.

 

[zomgmage]

TBH I think Blizzards ways of banning have changed. If there is a detection... ofc everyone detected would be banned. But now that Activision bought/merged with blizzard they have to answer to them. And the CEO/CFO/Stock holders would not look too kindly on mass bans.

 

[goodmorning]

ryder1337,

I think you missed the point of my statement, it wasn't that banwaves have not happened. Of course it has happened, and botter knows that. The point was that all banwaves happened after the bot was detected, not after a certain amount of people were reported for botting and then saved up to create a banwave. As for one bot or another having some of the same code as another, essentially they all have some of the same code albeit edited or revised.

The simple truth of the matter is that it would only make sense for Blizz to ban accounts instantly once they confimed botting activity. Not to mention, Blizz isn't stupid. They know that most botters will simply go out and buy new Key's and start botting again, thus increasing their profits. It benefits Blizz in no way to postpone bans simply to create a "banwave" for the sake of scaring botters.

Contradicting yourself. You may not have intended to phrase it that way, but you're lulling people into a false sense of security with your statements.

And as to "essentially they all have some of the same code albeit edited or revised." - Pirox is written in AutoIt. You can't tell me that's similar to GB/HB in any way.

 

[goodmorning]

I'm trying to figure out how you can find a contradictory staement in anything I posted?

I highlighted it in bold and red.

Either way, I am still entitled to my opinion, be it based on speculation or fact. Which, might I point out, is exactly what you are doing.

Yes, I'm posting based on fact. I've supported myself with multiple quotes and links.

Anyway.. I'm done here. The fact is - banwaves exist, and they're something that everyone needs to be aware of historically. Denial never helped anyone.

I give you credit -

The point was that all banwaves happened after the bot was detected, not after a certain amount of people were reported for botting and then saved up to create a banwave.

This is correct.

 

[ryder1337]

ryder1337,

I think you missed the point of my statement, it wasn't that banwaves have not happened. Of course it has happened, and botter knows that. The point was that all banwaves happened after the bot was detected, not after a certain amount of people were reported for botting and then saved up to create a banwave. As for one bot or another having some of the same code as another, essentially they all have some of the same code albeit edited or revised.

Hmm, yeah ok. Guess I did so. Idk, I've always been told as well that they save up the bans to "scare" people when throwing massive banwaves.

 

[cataclysm]

troll troll troll bunch of babies. Someone lock this thread please!

 

[goodmorning]

troll troll troll bunch of babies. Someone lock this thread please!

How is it that every argument online is instantly labeled as a troll? This thread is now packed full of valuable information - information that would otherwise have laid dormant.

lol, you come in a thread, make no useful comment, and call others troll. Epic

+rep

 

[cataclysm]

Yawn

 

[Kickazz006]

Simple answers:

Yes, some people are getting banned due to increased player reports
Yes, blizz employees have more time on their hands due to the IP address detection
Yes, the above said employees now have more time to get player reports done faster
Yes, player reports involve botters
No, there is not currently a banwave
Yes, GB and HB are as safe as it gets
Yes, GB and HB will auto-disconnect you if tripwire tells it to

@ the douches who are trolling, stop trolling. You want to troll? go to blizz boards and troll. If you troll here, I'm sure the mods will mute you!

 

[panYama]

And, may I ask, how do you know the actual date inwhich any bot was detected in relation to when you were banned? If you want to prove your point, simply put up a post showing the date a bot was detected and the date inwhich Blizz issued bans for that particular bot.......truth of the matter is you can't. Either way, I am still entitled to my opinion, be it based on speculation or fact. Which, might I point out, is exactly what you are doing.

Ill step in here to give my cookie!

Gen1 Gatherbuddy was a banwave! period. they where on a same address as a other bot( believe LuaNinja) and blizzard has scanned for 3 days straight and everyone botted in that period got banned on the third day and the forums where flushed with that specific date in there email. so goodmorning is right on this one.
how do we know this? because before the end of those 3 days nothing was posted + someone back then (not remebering his name well) had a site / system / way w/e to check when warden changed or so if I'm correct and saw they scanned for 3 days. (might contain silly mistakes but, yes banwaves exist and blizzard does do them).

 

[DaSoul]

I lost 5 80 char in this month...

only one is using GB and got report so banned.

(PvPed at soul healer, keep rescue again and again,so banned...)



I am afraid now,

Is new version of GB safe?

I dont try it yet,

If you are using GB , and good, please replay this post,

Let everyone knows GB is the best bot !!!

Whether GB nor HB is detected through warden! Every ban is either related to stupidity or just bad luck. With stupidity i mean acting obviously as someone that uses a bot (24/7, ah flooding...) nothing new...

I am always using the newest versions directly after release and never ever had a report* or ban or anything. (*in the meaning of being contacted by a gm to test if i reply to the whisper or not)