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Announcement regarding recent banwave

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raphus

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Honorbuddy was recently hit with another banwave.


We have spent the last two days trying to figure out how Honorbuddy was detected.
After the May banwave the Tripwire service was made a lot more aggressive to catch
any detection methods that it might have missed. However, having reviewed the server
logs, it was discovered that Tripwire service was not running properly after an update
that took place about a month ago which nullified all the new heuristics.


We do NOT know for sure what caused the banwave, but we strongly believe the tripwire
service would have been able to catch the detection that took place if it was working
properly.


Words cannot express how sorry we are for this mistake, but we are truly sorry. We
take your account security very seriously and strive to do everything possible so
that this exact situation does not occur.


We now plan for the service to run for a while with these checks configured correctly
and see what it shows. In the meantime we will update you when we are ready to re-open
auth and to do a test release. Please be aware that this release will still be considered
'unsafe' to use and, like always, should not be used on accounts you cannot afford to lose.


Again, we sincerely apologize for this massive mistake.


This thread will remain open for discussions.
 
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Things happen. I will continue to use your services as long as they're available. The 6 month ban is but a small bump in the road for the many hours of pleasure your bot has brought.

Onward and forward, I will be more careful with my botting methods and ideas.
 
Thanks for the honesty. Take your time, and come back strong so we can continue to bot!
 
Thank you to keeping us updated and to be honest :)

Thank you so much for your work and for hours of botting <3
 
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Thanks for telling the truth so sincere. Shit happens, so let's learn out of it and go on with business!
 
raphus said:
Honorbuddy was recently hit with another banwave.


We have spent the last two days trying to figure out how Honorbuddy was detected.
After the May banwave the Tripwire service was made a lot more aggressive to catch
any detection methods that it might have missed. However, having reviewed the server
logs, it was discovered that Tripwire service was not running properly after an update
that took place about a month ago which nullified all the new heuristics.


We do NOT know for sure what caused the banwave, but we strongly believe the tripwire
service would have been able to catch the detection that took place if it was working
properly.




This thread will remain open for discussions.
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I was waiting to hear what the new excuse for keeping HB running was gonna be, i gotta say, this excuse is probably pretty good and will sit well with a lot of fanboy customers.
However, i hope people realise how incredibly stupid it is to say "We do not know what caused the banwave" yet "We are confident tripwire would have caught it".

Tripwire has proven useless so far, every single time it actually triggers you call it a false positive, and yet people still get banned, surely one must assume that the shit doesnt work, why would any have any faith in you saying itll work now? Of course it wont.

Ill wait and listen in on the next excuse about 6-7 months from now!
 
We now plan for the service to run for a while with these checks configured correctly
and see what it shows. In the meantime we will update you when we are ready to re-open
auth and to do a test release.

is there any idea how long is run for a while and will it take days or weeks to get a test release? im sry :P
 
Xarian said:
I was waiting to hear what the new excuse for keeping HB running was gonna be, i gotta say, this excuse is probably pretty good and will sit well with a lot of fanboy customers.
However, i hope people realise how incredibly stupid it is to say "We do not know what caused the banwave" yet "We are confident tripwire would have caught it".

Tripwire has proven useless so far, every single time it actually triggers you call it a false positive, and yet people still get banned, surely one must assume that the shit doesnt work, why would any have any faith in you saying itll work now? Of course it wont.

Ill wait and listen in on the next excuse about 6-7 months from now!
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Tripwire has tripped legit for at least 3 times until now. Which has been taken necessary actions against. False positives might have happened more but it is better to be safe then sorry.
 
Shit happens, human error happens and none of us can say we've never fucked something up.

The difference is you didn't try to cover it up and were honest.

I'll be botting the moment tripwire is lifted.
 
Xarian said:
I was waiting to hear what the new excuse for keeping HB running was gonna be, i gotta say, this excuse is probably pretty good and will sit well with a lot of fanboy customers.
However, i hope people realise how incredibly stupid it is to say "We do not know what caused the banwave" yet "We are confident tripwire would have caught it".

Tripwire has proven useless so far, every single time it actually triggers you call it a false positive, and yet people still get banned, surely one must assume that the shit doesnt work, why would any have any faith in you saying itll work now? Of course it wont.

Ill wait and listen in on the next excuse about 6-7 months from now!
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typical hater's post, just earse that shit from the thread
 
raphus said:
Tripwire has tripped legit for at least 3 times until now. Which has been taken necessary actions against. False positives might have happened more but it is better to be safe then sorry.
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Sure, i get that.

So whats the excuse for opening auth for you to figure out if it works? I understand that Tripwire only works when you have many customers online to catch warden modules over a certain period of time, why announce it here publicly instead of running several hundred in-house accounts to protect your customers?

Lets say that your tripwire actually dont work, and you open the "unsafe" release and nothing happens, the result is gonna be another banwave, because no bots to report warden info to tripwire = useless tripwire = useless test.

So we are now to be lab rats? :)
 
so they copy/paste same response from 7 months ago and added a few words so that it didn't sound 100% ...... only 99%
 
Xarian said:
Sure, i get that.

So whats the excuse for opening auth for you to figure out if it works? I understand that Tripwire only works when you have many customers online to catch warden modules over a certain period of time, why announce it here publicly instead of running several hundred in-house accounts to protect your customers?

Lets say that your tripwire actually dont work, and you open the "unsafe" release and nothing happens, the result is gonna be another banwave, because no bots to report warden info to tripwire = useless tripwire = useless test.

So we are now to be lab rats? :)
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Tripwire is a service that works on it's own without being dependent to any user or system. I will not disclose any further details due to obvious reasons.
 
kodind said:
typical hater's post, just earse that shit from the thread
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Hater? I kind of agree with him. The guys here are going to want to keep this train rolling as long as they can for every penny they can squeeze out. Any excuses or story that helps them do that will be told.

I am actually more surprised at the fact of how many guys are saying its fine, and better luck next time. There is a difference between knowing full well botting is a risk to get banned, versus this...
 
I appreciate the update and I also appreciate the honesty, mistakes are mistakes, we learn from them and move on. If your end feels like that error was the cause, and its fixable, thats great. I bought 3 more cheap blizz accounts and just await the auth servers return. At no point should any of us take the victim's point of view here but blizz can keep doing what they do, I have gained much more than I have lost thus far. =]
 
Wow, but the honesty is fine. We're not perma banned so i'm ok. I'll just start back up on another account and make adjustments. This explains how my one account missed the ban wave when i used HB once shorty after the ban lifted.
 
Are other bot bases "secure"? While I'm waiting on this 18-month suspension I'd like to use other bot bases for games I play.
 
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