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Announcement: Legendary Buddy from 1st June 2016

raphus said:
You will have to wait and see how good we are at doing end-game rotations.
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I don't quite understand this comment.

If Legionbuddy is going to be good with the default profiles, why have you never been able to make Singular good for end-game content right now?

I understand Singular's purpose, I just don't understand why you never took the effort to make it viable for raiding. There's only 2 reasons I can think of:

1. You want to gather money from the buddy store and third party devs.
2. Laziness.

Singular has gone months without spells being removed (ie. look at rogue specs. It's still trying to cast spells that were removed when WoD came out and never were removed). If that's your track record for updating Singular, I don't see how you guys could be even remotely decent at making end game CR's.
 
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wallyworld said:
I don't quite understand this comment.

If Legionbuddy is going to be good with the default profiles, why have you never been able to make Singular good for end-game content right now?

I understand Singular's purpose, I just don't understand why you never took the effort to make it viable for raiding. There's only 2 reasons I can think of:

1. You want to gather money from the buddy store and third party devs.
2. Laziness.

Singular has gone months without spells being removed (ie. look at rogue specs. It's still trying to cast spells that were removed when WoD came out and never were removed). If that's your track record for updating Singular, I don't see how you guys could be even remotely decent at making end game CR's.
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i think is not your business what they are doing, they hare good on what they do, and when you are good you should find someone to pay you.
I think singural is good enought for what honorbuddy is needed, but if you want something better because YOU (not them) are Lazy to play a game on raid with a bot (like myself ofc) legionbuddy will be perfect.
btw i think 3rd party devs should have their chance too to provide crs with Legionbuddy (i suppose it will run smothly than using it in hb, because they wrote it from scratch)
 
mattvi said:
i think is not your business what they are doing, they hare good on what they do, and when you are good you should find someone to pay you.
I think singural is good enought for what honorbuddy is needed, but if you want something better because YOU (not them) are Lazy to play a game on raid with a bot (like myself ofc) legionbuddy will be perfect.
btw i think 3rd party devs should have their chance too to provide crs with Legionbuddy (i suppose it will run smothly than using it in hb, because they wrote it from scratch)
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It's not my business to ask questions about a product I pay for?

Yeah, ok...

You'd sound a lot more convincing if you could type in a clear and concise manner.
 
wallyworld said:
I don't quite understand this comment.

If Legionbuddy is going to be good with the default profiles, why have you never been able to make Singular good for end-game content right now?

I understand Singular's purpose, I just don't understand why you never took the effort to make it viable for raiding. There's only 2 reasons I can think of:

1. You want to gather money from the buddy store and third party devs.
2. Laziness.

Singular has gone months without spells being removed (ie. look at rogue specs. It's still trying to cast spells that were removed when WoD came out and never were removed). If that's your track record for updating Singular, I don't see how you guys could be even remotely decent at making end game CR's.
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There are more important stuff to prioritize our resources then devoting a developer to Singular for end-game rotations for Honorbuddy.
 
wallyworld said:
I don't quite understand this comment.

If Legionbuddy is going to be good with the default profiles, why have you never been able to make Singular good for end-game content right now?

I understand Singular's purpose, I just don't understand why you never took the effort to make it viable for raiding. There's only 2 reasons I can think of:

1. You want to gather money from the buddy store and third party devs.
2. Laziness.

Singular has gone months without spells being removed (ie. look at rogue specs. It's still trying to cast spells that were removed when WoD came out and never were removed). If that's your track record for updating Singular, I don't see how you guys could be even remotely decent at making end game CR's.
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Basically it comes down to the business model for all buddybots. They create the framework for various functions like CR, questing, gathering, etc, and some sort of basic implementation, but the specific, well-tuned routines or profiles are mostly left to 3rd party developers. You can argue that this model results in the most extensive bot, as the core developers spend their time doing what only they can do, and delegate, in a manner of speaking, other tasks to 3P devs. They don't work on optimizing Singular because other people can write routines.

For a time I think that worked well enough, and kept costs down so they could offer lifetime keys, which isn't something I've seen too often with bots of this quality. Obviously that's now changing, and between HB's new price adjustment and LegionBuddy offering a 'feature' that's part of HB to begin with, I agree that the whole process is pretty questionable and leaves kinda a bad taste.
That being said, it's not like we know the whole picture. The lifetime key model isn't exactly sustainable long-term and if the alternative is bankruptcy, its not like they really have a choice.

Really it comes down to you get what you pay for. It's unrealistic to expect that a free routine is going to be maintained and optimized that much. Honestly, its pretty good already for something that comes with the bot. I've used bots for other games where the default routines are literal train wrecks and a cat walking on the keyboard would do better dps.
We'll have to wait and see how LegionBuddy is, but since it's a paid product, specifically for CR and nothing else, it should be held to a much higher standard.
 
WOW, just Wow, some of you people on these forums are just sooo negative. waaa waaa waaa, I want it all, everything now and for free. its really getting to me. I think the amount of sheer work these guys put into this program, dealing with courts, lawsuits, patches upgrades, new stuff which is always has to be fixed and is usually completed within a couple of days. ... sheesh..... I don't know how they put up will all this, cuz I would have yanked keys and returned $ on quite a few of you...just so I don't have to read your crap......and maybe even banned folks from the forums. Constructive criticism is cool in the correct context......... BUT: Save your bytching and moaning for ya mamma!
 
raphus said:
There are more important stuff to prioritize our resources then devoting a developer to Singular for end-game rotations for Honorbuddy.
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I was under the impression that you have 2 developers that their only job is updating Singular...
 
I purchased Legendary, so far it has not been a good value. Pretty disappointed in the communication regarding the product and the benefit of my purchase.

Just my .02

Also, getting a unique avatar seems silly to me.
 
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Cipro said:
I purchased Legendary, so far it has not been a good value. Pretty disappointed in the communication regarding the product and the benefit of my purchase.

Just my .02

Also, getting a unique avatar seems silly to me.
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Have you tried Legionbuddy yet? How do you feel about it if you have?
 
The timing of my purchase prevented me from trying Legionbuddy, with 7.0 hitting. So my complaint is more about lack of communication than a knock on the actual product which i have not had an opportunity to try.
 
Cipro said:
The timing of my purchase prevented me from trying Legionbuddy, with 7.0 hitting. So my complaint is more about lack of communication than a knock on the actual product which i have not had an opportunity to try.
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wait wait wait...

Are you telling me that Legionbuddy has been unavailable fore testing since 7.0 came out?

If all these developers are putting off time updating their HB profiles to work on LB profiles, how come nothing's being tested?
 
still can't find where to buy legionbuddy and the price :( I want to support you guys :'(

An x64 rotation based pve/pvp sounds excellent, would buy it instant :( !
 
Lnksilver5 said:
still can't find where to buy legionbuddy and the price :( I want to support you guys :'(

An x64 rotation based pve/pvp sounds excellent, would buy it instant :( !
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That's because you can't buy Legionbuddy yet...

Legionbuddy and Legendarybuddy are two different things.
 
Talazemico said:
I don't understand. Are they selling this rotation-only thing for 200 EUR?

In the meanwhile HB will continue getting detected? and all us loyal customers for years will suffer just cause we cant pay 200 eur for a bot?

wtf
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No, this isn't correct.

Legendarybuddy is not Legionbuddy. Legionbuddy will not be 200 EUR unless they want to sell absolutely no subscriptions.
 
laria said:
How would that compete with the good old lifetime accounts that some of us dedicated power users got?
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I agree with this statment Laria write.

I understand that Bosslands wants to create something new for the users and the developers wish to make new routines etc for 64bit, and make an system that is atm harder to detect for Blizzard, Swuare Enix etc. But to be honest her, I have been using HB and RB for a longtime now, and how longtime do you belive it will go before Blizzard or Square Enix figure out ways to terminate the bot users on the new LB? I mean, I've lost myself 2 bigger accounts in wow, and just got back again. And once again supporting the HB and the different developers in the hard work they deliver to us users. But removing the lifetime key, and not upgrading the allready purchased routines on 32bit to 64bit, sounds pretty hard. Personally I don't have that much money, and I have invested alot at different developers and thier different routines, farmers, etc. So that I have to buy new routines, tings for this new LB 64bit, will keep from buying LB at this point, unless Bossland and developers will come to an agreement to aid a few on users behalfs/purchases, for different routines, farmers etc.

I like the idea wich is presented her, but atm I feel like it is beeing pushed by Bossland because the HB has been detected to much, and alot of banswaves. But again, when do you think LB will be detected? Well we all know the risk by using a bot in a game, some players manage to survive longer then others, but the time will come, and when it dose, we are back to square one, same as with HB, what then?, will you make yet a new one?

Sorry don't mean to sound negative, I try to se the best from both sides (Bossland, Developers, us players). I hope you guys will consider some other option if we as users gonna move to LB and 64bit... :)

/Dreamteam
 
supermonkey said:
will legendary buddy user receive 2 keys for legionbuddy?
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Did you bother to read the first post in the thread?

"Legendary Buddy is an offer from Bossland GmbH that allows you the following:

* 1 Year of usage that includes, 2 Sessions"
 
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