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[Alpha] Doctrine -- Ret/Holy/Prot All-In-One

fiftypence..truly an amazing CC so far. (I spent the last few days coding what you have put together but only for prot..Ill scrap it now!! - I had the exact same rotation logic and some extras)

I am an ilvl 368 lvl85 Prot/Holy 10m Raider - (we just downed Lord Rhyolith recently!) and really enjoy raiding but wanted a CC to take care of the rotations so i could concentrate on staying out of the fire! and learn the mechanics. (Watching cooldowns and remembering keybinds gets a bit much sometimes)

I love everything about this CC so far, the output is nice so I can see what is happening. And It has a great layout.

A few things before bed:

  • Problem: The Daakara Fight Zul'Aman - when he changes to cat, i missed a taunt as they were on cooldown.
  • Suggestion: I had Scales of Life - trinket usage on cooldown and ActiveAuras contained "Weight of a Feather" - could you implement trinkets?
  • Suggestion: I had Arcane Torrent belf racial little stun and some more mana - Could you implement - even thou mana usage seems to be awesome?
  • Suggestion: Also had an "Is Crowd controlled" check so we don't break CC, holy wrath can be a pain. - Could you implement ?
  • Suggestion: Also had HoS and HoP are instants and not allot of code to help out healers and the raid (Maybe HoSalvation that frost DK that gets the howling blast snap agro ^_^ - could you implement ?
  • Option to: should Crusader Aura when mounted. (There may be some call for Resistance aura in FL, could you implement a "disable change aura")
  • Option to: Hammer of Justice those pesky spell casters if rubuke on CD.

Again great CC. See attached for DPS and threat..great work!
 

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Sounds awesome. my pally is still only 40...incentive to get her to 85 ASAP

ohh...so many good CCs lately...hard to choose which toon to level :D
 
@Wulf
Cheers for the feedback and the (awesome) screenshots. I am focusing on the RetRaider CC (standalone ret raiding version of Doctrine) at present, but I will be merging RetRaider into the Doctrine base soon. Along with this merger will come numerous fixes to the base code which should effect prot as well. This merger should happen soon.

A few points.

Regarding the Zul'Aman issue: I think this is because the CC registers the boss changing target (to use Lynx Rush) as losing agro -- therefore it taunts straight away, even though you still have agro. I thought I added a check to ensure that agro was indeed lost before it taunts, but it appears I did not. I'll have a look into this soon.

Regarding your suggestions: Hand of Salvation will definitely be implemented, as will trinket use. I completely overlooked racials so apologies for that, they will be added.

As for Hand of Protection, though, I'm not too keen on adding this, because I feel HoP is a very powerful ability that is very hard to get right in a CustomClass. There are situations where an ally is at 15% where you might want to use BoP, and others with the same health where you might not want to. This is the same for Hammer of Justice, as often in end-game raids mobs are immune to stuns, so you might be wasting a global cooldown and a cooldown. I'll look into it and see what I can do, but I can't promise anything for those two abilities.

Option-wise, once the GUI is added I will be recoding the CC to be entirely configurable. This means that you can choose whether or not to buff, automatic aura switching, movement, targeting, facing, etc. In short: definitely will be added at some point.
 
Would love to see this with movement and trinket usage so we can use it in all enviroments in wow :)
Because I have nearly given up Singular.
 
Works well for low levels aswell. Been using Lazyraider to tank from 22-44 atm.
Only one small problem is that it doesn't cast Seal of Righteousness and i am guessing it's only because the CC uses Seal of Truth, which we don't get until level 44, so it's not implemented? I understand it's made more for level 85s ofc just letting people know it works for lower levels aswell ;) Other than that it's pure ownage. Can't wait to see what it can do at higher levels :)
Nice work man.
 
fiftypence and all the raidingcc-makers out there, you are simply amazing is all I have to say. bless you <3
 
Definitely a great CC. In fact I switched from Warrior to Paladin just because this CC is so great.
 
Amazing CC.

I would like to ask for a few options.

GUI for Options.
The ability to switch what Seals to use on the fly using the GUI.
The ability to toggle Taunts/Rebuke etc on the fly using GUI.
 
I'm also having problems with facing the target. I'm playing as a prot pally.

I have to turn it to face the mobs myself.
 
To the above peeps:
I think this is due to a bug which will be fixed once I get a'mergin'.


Sorry for the lack of updates. Over the last few days I've been ill and decided to bot a rogue up to 85. Once I feel up to it (hopefully soon) I'll have a new release of RetRaider with fixes and a GUI, and a merged version of Doctrine with full Prot/Ret support for both raiding and leveling, and a GUI.

Also, I will be working on a LazyRaider mutilate rogue CC for personal use. I'll probably end up releasing this as well, but we'll see. :)
 
fiftypence said:
Also, I will be working on a LazyRaider mutilate rogue CC for personal use. I'll probably end up releasing this as well, but we'll see. :)
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Doctrine is a CC worthy as gift for the Gods! Please release your Rogue CC too if you can!

Can't wait for Doctrine updates. I love tanking now!
 
hope someone can give me some advice.
when trying ret the bot seems to be taking its sweet time between attacks (quote from fiftypence)
not sure if it might be lazy or combat but both of them are doing the same thing.
after about 2 start stops lazy crashes wow.

I am doing about 5k damage and he seems to be attacking once in a while.
do I have something wrong or ?
is he supposed to be doing any kind of interrupts?
 
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sparks said:
hope someone can give me some advice.
when trying ret the bot seems to be taking its sweet time between attacks (quote from fiftypence)
not sure if it might be lazy or combat but both of them are doing the same thing.
after about 2 start stops lazy crashes wow.

I am doing about 5k damage and he seems to be attacking once in a while.
do I have something wrong or ?
is he supposed to be doing any kind of interrupts?
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Do you use the german client? :o
 
Sparks, I'd recommend using the RetRaider CC. Doctrine is an alpha work-in-progress and does not yet have the latest changes made to the code which are available on the RetRaider CC.

Regarding your problems, I could only suggest a clean install of Honourbuddy with the latest version of RetRaider. If it still occurs, attach a log for me and I'll see what's going on. :)
 
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