Actual Proof against Monitoring? Anyone?

[stelios21]

Quick question since there are many points here about law, sue, etc...

Lets say that Blizzard is doing something illegal/outside the law/anything.... Lets just say for a moment that this is the case..... How many of the botters here are willing to actually pay for a lawsuit against Blizzard? I just had a meeting a week back with a lawyer related to opening up a new firm (totally not related to WoW or botting or gaming lol), and just to get the corporate structure, share holding structure, etc in place and some advice on policies, etc., this guy was charging approx. US$3500/hr... Now agreed that he is a very "high end" lawyer from a "fancy" firm who really knows their business, however lawyers in general don't come cheap.... So now assuming you had to just fork out a few Ks for such a law suit, how many botters are willing to go up against Blizzard who probably has their own internal legal team as well as has access to and can pay for expensive lawyers if they wish to?

I would. Just find a lawyer who is actually open minded and wanna make some millions out of blizzard. If you actually convince them to pay % of the compensation for your lost this would be perfect. But yet, you need evidence.

 

[jlindstedt]

Blizzard has not detected and caused a mass banwave by scanning your computer in a long time. It was common a few years ago with other bots such as openbot, mmoglider and even mmomimic. When hb first started gb was a standalone product and was detected but I cant remember if if this was due to warden or not. Blizzard can detect hb by these methods, that is why hb has a tripwire to prevent banwaves caused by this type of detection.

 

[Labze]

Quick question since there are many points here about law, sue, etc...

Lets say that Blizzard is doing something illegal/outside the law/anything.... Lets just say for a moment that this is the case..... How many of the botters here are willing to actually pay for a lawsuit against Blizzard? I just had a meeting a week back with a lawyer related to opening up a new firm (totally not related to WoW or botting or gaming lol), and just to get the corporate structure, share holding structure, etc in place and some advice on policies, etc., this guy was charging approx. US$3500/hr... Now agreed that he is a very "high end" lawyer from a "fancy" firm who really knows their business, however lawyers in general don't come cheap.... So now assuming you had to just fork out a few Ks for such a law suit, how many botters are willing to go up against Blizzard who probably has their own internal legal team as well as has access to and can pay for expensive lawyers if they wish to?

Actually, some people have done that already. Blizzard used to back in the time, to actually scan outside of World of Warcrafts memory space, however when this was discovered hell broke lose for Blizzard. There is alot of information with a few google searches on this, Blizzard were forced to limit their memory scans to only WoW itself due to all that was going on. There would be no need to hire a lawyer now, as there is nothing illegal going on. Thinking that Blizzard would make the same mistake again, to risk what they have already gone through is a naive. Besides, several people have debugged the client to see what is being scanned for, which is how Honorbuddy also avoids being detected when injected into World of Warcraft. Almost any World of Warcraft bot also has a killswitch build in, in case that Warden should somehow catch it which means your bot would be shut down prior to detection.

Anyway you can read through here for some of it, also includes some good links when reading through: Blizzard is scanning the memory for Bot software names - Page 3

I would. Just find a lawyer who is actually open minded and wanna make some millions out of blizzard. If you actually convince them to pay % of the compensation for your lost this would be perfect. But yet, you need evidence.

All the evidence you need is out there already, however it won't be in your favor.

 

[jlindstedt]

Actually, some people have done that already. Blizzard used to back in the time, to actually scan outside of World of Warcrafts memory space, however when this was discovered hell broke lose for Blizzard. There is alot of information with a few google searches on this, Blizzard were forced to limit their memory scans to only WoW itself due to all that was going on. There would be no need to hire a lawyer now, as there is nothing illegal going on. Thinking that Blizzard would make the same mistake again, to risk what they have already gone through is a naive. Besides, several people have debugged the client to see what is being scanned for, which is how Honorbuddy also avoids being detected when injected into World of Warcraft. Almost any World of Warcraft bot also has a killswitch build in, in case that Warden should somehow catch it which means your bot would be shut down prior to detection.

Anyway you can read through here for some of it, also includes some good links when reading through: Blizzard is scanning the memory for Bot software names - Page 3



All the evidence you need is out there already, however it won't be in your favor.

We are on the 7th page now and finally someone who knows what they are talking about.

 

[zonpan2lol]

Actually, some people have done that already. Blizzard used to back in the time, to actually scan outside of World of Warcrafts memory space, however when this was discovered hell broke lose for Blizzard. There is alot of information with a few google searches on this, Blizzard were forced to limit their memory scans to only WoW itself due to all that was going on. There would be no need to hire a lawyer now, as there is nothing illegal going on. Thinking that Blizzard would make the same mistake again, to risk what they have already gone through is a naive. Besides, several people have debugged the client to see what is being scanned for, which is how Honorbuddy also avoids being detected when injected into World of Warcraft. Almost any World of Warcraft bot also has a killswitch build in, in case that Warden should somehow catch it which means your bot would be shut down prior to detection.

Anyway you can read through here for some of it, also includes some good links when reading through: Blizzard is scanning the memory for Bot software names - Page 3



All the evidence you need is out there already, however it won't be in your favor.

I tried to find the "Hell broke lose for Blizzard" part on goolge, didn't find anything. Nothing related to a lawsuit, sue, etc. Merely few pages forum discussions which led to nothing. So where exactly are you getting this from?