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About 32bit vs 64bit and running in 32mode on 64bit pc and IP track

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kekic91 said:
by telling ''each process can address max. 4 GB'' it point that each process can use up to 4 gb? lol ?TOTAL USAGE IN 32bit OS cannot exced 4GB (usualy3.75 or 3.25 or exact 4GB)

Regarding othey your post
I have been readed year and year for everything about hardware and system
Also im PC SERVICER u know what that mean right ?
''each process can address max. 4 GB'' is not true at all,that point ur 32bit OS can have more that 4Gb with is simple not true(u can have instaled on ur mashine more than4 but it wont be used)

About ur link

U linked me wiki to read and u dind read that wiki at all,whats inside?
Ur link is abou ONE process Physical Address Extension (PAE)
For comparison, 32-bit x86 processors are limited to 64 GB of RAM in Physical Address Extension (PAE) mode,[16] or 4 GB of RAM without PAE mode.[1](p4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

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You are what!? - PC SERVICER!? - I am a Unix-Administrator with 20 years of exp. and also have a Master in IT...

Blieve me, what you are writing is not true:
e.g. Windows 2000 Datacenter (32bit) could address 32GB -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#Microsoft_Windows

And Linux for example: The Linux kernel includes full PAE mode support starting with version 2.3.23, enabling access of up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit machines.

and so on...
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#Microsoft_Windows

money quote(first two sentences), please describe to me which part U do not understand;):
In computing, Physical Address Extension (PAE), sometimes referred to as Page Address Extension,[1] is a memory management feature for the IA-32 architecture. PAE was first introduced in the Pentium Pro. It defines a page table hierarchy of three levels, with table entries of 64 bits each instead of 32, allowing these CPUs to access a physical address space larger than 4 gigabytes (232 bytes).
 
kekic91 said:
Also im PC SERVICER u know what that mean right ?
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- Hmm, it means you fool around on things you do not really understand?
- Hmm, or that you fix 90% of your issues by rebooting the system?
- Hmm, or does it only mean, that you are working at the bottom of the IT-industry? - Maybe above "web-designers"... *ggg*

By the way, "think before you lol". ;-D
 
i am not trying to poke fun at the OP, but i am having a hard time understanding the point of this thread.

As far as I can tell, he is trying to state that Blizzard detects HB because we are running 32 bit WoW even though we have a 64-bit OS.

I have stated before that running 32 bit on a 64 bit OS MAY provide a smaller subset for Blizz to target but i doubt it goes beyond that.

He is also stating that this is affecting performance of multiple instances of WoW/HB. This is absolutely incorrect. It may affect a SINGLE instance of WoW's performance but then someone who is multi-boxing is not likely to care about high performance graphics, etc...


In fact, i would assert that 32 bit apps help manage resources for multiple instances since the system itself would not allow for a single instance to use more that 2 GB of RAM....as an example.

So, in summary.......those who are non technical should ignore this thread as it is based in inaccurate information.
 
I think this whole thread is a language barrier. Haha!

Just so that people are not confused, until the day that HB requires more than 4gb of memory, for ONE INSTANCE to run it, it is fine in 32-bit mode. What I'm hoping the "PC SERVICER" is saying is that if you run a 32-bit client on a 64-bit OS, they are IP tracing you and will ban you based on that. I can say after working for a large company that there is no wiggle room in budgets to "ip scan" people, especially when most of us are being routers and firewalls with no discernible response to an outside person's "ping".

Thanks
 
B3rlin3r said:
- Hmm, it means you fool around on things you do not really understand?
- Hmm, or that you fix 90% of your issues by rebooting the system?
- Hmm, or does it only mean, that you are working at the bottom of the IT-industry? - Maybe above "web-designers"... *ggg*

By the way, "think before you lol". ;-D
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I do not reinstall system for every bug,i fix it
I do reinstall system if customer demands it as it is cheaper that fixing bugs
My success rate is 100%,fixed all so no i do not fool around
The bottom of the IT industry is not school/mind/iteligence or any other reason limited
I do what i like to work and thats pc repairng
its also my alt job
e.g. Windows 2000 Datacenter (32bit) could address 32GB is server ofc he must support more ram,non of casual end user 32bit os ver dont support more that 4gb,that stands

Alltrough all this yours atack on me i like u xD :D
 
kekic91 said:
I do not reinstall system for every bug,i fix it
Alltrough all this yours atack on me i like u xD :D
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I like you too. :-D - But you start with this "I am this and that, so be quite" ;)
 
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NavyAV89 said:
i am not trying to poke fun at the OP, but i am having a hard time understanding the point of this thread.

As far as I can tell, he is trying to state that Blizzard detects HB because we are running 32 bit WoW even though we have a 64-bit OS.

I have stated before that running 32 bit on a 64 bit OS MAY provide a smaller subset for Blizz to target but i doubt it goes beyond that.

He is also stating that this is affecting performance of multiple instances of WoW/HB. This is absolutely incorrect. It may affect a SINGLE instance of WoW's performance but then someone who is multi-boxing is not likely to care about high performance graphics, etc...


In fact, i would assert that 32 bit apps help manage resources for multiple instances since the system itself would not allow for a single instance to use more that 2 GB of RAM....as an example.

So, in summary.......those who are non technical should ignore this thread as it is based in inaccurate information.
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Okey now i have to corect u too

first and end thing to all who read this THREAD MUST know that i do not STATE anything how they detect,what u should do and etc
i DO NOT request 64bit HB
I DO NOT ask any question here i kust provide INFO how things work,why they work that way so ppls can inform theyself and drop statmens like IP tracking etc.

In summary thread is for info NOT how to avoid get banned

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End point of thread is for some underskilled in IT word know that cant trace your IP,they can just check in that particaly moment how many acc running that IP i will say it again :
in that time how many per IP no total
 
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B3rlin3r said:
I like you to. :-D - But you start with this "I am this and that, so be quite" ;)
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I agree. The OP is basically talking down to everyone who responds to him.

There are many people here who have much more IT and computer experience than him and do much more than basic PC repair.
 
kekic91 said:
Okey now i have to corect u too

first and end thing to all who read this THREAD MUST know that i do not STATE anything how they detect,what u should do and etc
i DO NOT request 64bit HB
I DO NOT ask any question here i kust provide INFO how things work,why they work that way so ppls can inform theyself and drop statmens like IP tracking etc.

In summary thread is for info NOT how to avoid get banned
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and it is still useless......
 
NavyAV89 said:
and it is still useless......
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Well im not trying to talking down ppl and ofc tehy alot of people experience that i
Answer on question why i mentied that im pc servicer etc is that u know im in IT world not stupi and i know what about im talking,also i responde to all cuz u respondet to my thread so u know that theard is open for questions and answers
my wish is to all who write here stick to the title and my first post and dont put all in question so we dont make this kind of long conv.
 
speshulk926 said:
I think this whole thread is a language barrier. Haha!

Just so that people are not confused, until the day that HB requires more than 4gb of memory, for ONE INSTANCE to run it, it is fine in 32-bit mode. What I'm hoping the "PC SERVICER" is saying is that if you run a 32-bit client on a 64-bit OS, they are IP tracing you and will ban you based on that. I can say after working for a large company that there is no wiggle room in budgets to "ip scan" people, especially when most of us are being routers and firewalls with no discernible response to an outside person's "ping".

Thanks
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Huh,again i do not state ANYTHING here
i do not say they IP track us
i do not say 64 bit is better or othervise
i do not say that u will have better performance if there is 64 bit Hb or othervise
what i say is informated based so ppl can low thread about ip tracking and hb detections based on running 32 wow client on 64 OS that all
 
kekic91 said:
Okey now i have to corect u too

first and end thing to all who read this THREAD MUST know that i do not STATE anything how they detect,what u should do and etc
i DO NOT request 64bit HB
I DO NOT ask any question here i kust provide INFO how things work,why they work that way so ppls can inform theyself and drop statmens like IP tracking etc.

In summary thread is for info NOT how to avoid get banned

EDIT

End point of thread is for some underskilled in IT word know that cant trace your IP,they can just check in that particaly moment how many acc running that IP i will say it again :
in that time how many per IP no total
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So what you are saying is that this topic is letting people know about something they were not asking about for no purpose whatsoever. Got it. Moving on....
 
kekic91 said:
Huh,again i do not state ANYTHING here
i do not say they IP track us
i do not say 64 bit is better or othervise
i do not say that u will have better performance if there is 64 bit Hb or othervise
what i say is informated based so ppl can low thread about ip tracking and hb detections based on running 32 wow client on 64 OS that all
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Hence my language barrier statement. Me, someone who only speaks english (really not saying anything bad with that statement) read it differently than you wrote it, I think. A lot of us on here are primarily English as well and we all read it the same way. I think you need to go back and read it again because it sounds like all the things you are saying it is not.
 
speshulk926 said:
Hence my language barrier statement. Me, someone who only speaks english (really not saying anything bad with that statement) read it differently than you wrote it, I think. A lot of us on here are primarily English as well and we all read it the same way. I think you need to go back and read it again because it sounds like all the things you are saying it is not.
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lol im self learned English,dint learn even in school,i got cauth percante based to learn russian and im serbian..so my english?
 
speshulk926 said:
So what you are saying is that this topic is letting people know about something they were not asking about for no purpose whatsoever. Got it. Moving on....
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ur right about ppl dont request this topic but u arent about this topic have no purpose,u can read in posts before this
 
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And also will like to say if u guys wont stop questing my it skills and stick to the topic so ppl dont read all kind of crap here i will close this thread beacuse it wont be efective after all this
Be smart and let people inform basics or ip tracking and about protocol so they dont ask it every third thread on forum
 
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