A theory for saving main account

[mythofworld]

Hello there buddies,

Don't be harsh even if you find it stupid. I have a question and guess about what would happen in such scenerio;

I don't bot with my main account and always reset my IP when logging to other account. I have diffrent wow folder for botting account, diffrent windows size etc. I don't know if they all help but I try to reduce the risk on my main account.
Still, with ah transactions or guild bank method some herbs and gold enter to my main and I am trying to minize the pain when banwave hit.

So, my question is; If I report my botting account with my account and say;"I noticed that there is a program called honorbuddy in our desktop pc which I use with my homemate and wanted to report him cause I don't wanna get hurt... etc"
And make gamemasters believe I have no connection with that account before a banwave hits. Would I be "more" safe and even if I get affected by a banwave, would I show the ticket/conversation to show I reported i my "homemate" long before banwave.

Or would it attract more attention and it would be affect like I reported my main ?

I farmed some ammount of gold and now I believe my bot completed its purpose for now. And yes I know "botting is never safe, dont use if you cant effort to lose bla bla bla. The question itself is nothing to do with it.

Thanks

 

[UsernameInvalid]

Not safe.

If your main account benefitted in any fashion from the bot account they will both be banned.

Did you send mats or gold?
Did you put shit in the guild bank and then withdraw it?
Is there clear evidence of buying AH items for ridiculous sums of money?

Any connection between them is grounds for a ban.

 

[wallyworld]

Your security measures you're taking are doing nothing to keep your account safe. You're probably changing the IP address of your computer, which will do absolutely nothing to keep you safe. Blizz logs enough info about your pc that you could have 30 different installations of wow and blizz will know immediately that all of them are coming from the same computer.

I have no idea where you get your ideas for security from, but you should really just give them up...They aren't keeping you safe in any way.

The only way to avoid being banned for botting is not to bot. You can try and ask it any way you want, but you're still asking the same thing....Which has been answered probably 10,000 times in a thousand different ways...It's the same tired, worn out answer every time...No matter if you want to hear it or not.

 

[mythofworld]

Your security measures you're taking are doing nothing to keep your account safe. You're probably changing the IP address of your computer, which will do absolutely nothing to keep you safe. Blizz logs enough info about your pc that you could have 30 different installations of wow and blizz will know immediately that all of them are coming from the same computer.

I have no idea where you get your ideas for security from, but you should really just give them up...They aren't keeping you safe in any way.

The only way to avoid being banned for botting is not to bot. You can try and ask it any way you want, but you're still asking the same thing....Which has been answered probably 10,000 times in a thousand different ways...It's the same tired, worn out answer every time...No matter if you want to hear it or not.

I agree on the things that blizzard logs enough info BUT changing window size is the first thing for being anonymous afaik. Diffrent installations are for keybind and other cache checks and I agree it has minimal affects too.
I also agree nothing is safe but the topic has nothing to do with it. Anyway, the thing is lets say I botted and what if I stop now and 5 months later a banwave hits. Will they do detailed check(trade checks of botted account) to reach my main acc or not. Not mentioning being online at a banhammer time(during that week when they analyze and filter data to ban). Nobody knows the answer, its just a guess and %90 of the time main accounts are not banned(for trading gold/char). So it depends for howmany months straigth they log someones IP. Cause my IP change at least 5-6 times a day and 5 months later they will see 700+ diffrent IP on my main account which is dynamic.

Anyway again, the topic is about a theoric question but not a question asking; "will I get banned?". It is "Would I make myself a free ban pass card if I take action before them?"

P.S. I used questing bot to level 2 alts before on main before last years banwaves,(The last action was 2-3 months before the first banwave) Then I didnt use any bot till banwave, my account was fine.

 

[wallyworld]

I agree on the things that blizzard logs enough info BUT changing window size is the first thing for being anonymous afaik. Diffrent installations are for keybind and other cache checks and I agree it has minimal affects too.
I also agree nothing is safe but the topic has nothing to do with it. Anyway, the thing is lets say I botted and what if I stop now and 5 months later a banwave hits. Will they do detailed check(trade checks of botted account) to reach my main acc or not. Not mentioning being online at a banhammer time(during that week when they analyze and filter data to ban). Nobody knows the answer, its just a guess and %90 of the time main accounts are not banned(for trading gold/char). So it depends for howmany months straigth they log someones IP. Cause my IP change at least 5-6 times a day and 5 months later they will see 700+ diffrent IP on my main account which is dynamic.

Anyway again, the topic is about a theoric question but not a question asking; "will I get banned?". It is "Would I make myself a free ban pass card if I take action before them?"

P.S. I used questing bot to level 2 alts before on main before last years banwaves,(The last action was 2-3 months before the first banwave) Then I didnt use any bot till banwave, my account was fine.

Not a single person will ever be able to answer your questions...And you fully know that.

Why do you people keep asking stupid, theoretical questions that you absolutely know noone can answer?

I've already told you what we do know, and you already know it, too. You can sit and try to theorize it all you want, but you won't know the answer until you get banned.

ps. Where the flying fuck did you ever get the idea that the first thing that blizz looks into is windows size? Really? That theory is...just plain stupid. I'd actually be interested to read where you got such a retarded idea in the first place...I bet that same thread/forum/discussion you had between friends would've had anyone with half a brain rolling on the ground.

 

[Hoof]

Not safe.

If your main account benefitted in any fashion from the bot account they will both be banned.

Did you send mats or gold?
Did you put shit in the guild bank and then withdraw it?
Is there clear evidence of buying AH items for ridiculous sums of money?

Any connection between them is grounds for a ban.

I wouldn't say WILL be banned. Yeah, it CAN get banned but its not 100% thing. I have gotten few accounts banned under the same bnet as my main is and transferred over 1mil gold to my main from bots. I know this CAN lead to a ban and is risky and stupid but just saying

 

[UsernameInvalid]

@Hoof

Are those accounts still active through this years ban spree? 0 suspensions on all of them? If so you are hella lucky, if not then your accounts got flagged and actions were taken.

 

[Chopcity]

you wont get banned unless you attach honorbuddy to your main acc, i've transfered over 25m gold to my main acc, nothing happened. the moment you attach honorbuddy to your acc, thats a dif story.

 

[dimsil]

you wont get banned unless you attach honorbuddy to your main acc, i've transfered over 25m gold to my main acc, nothing happened. the moment you attach honorbuddy to your acc, thats a dif story.

you got lucky

 

[dimsil]

I got 2 accounts. Main and bot. I always herb and shit on bot and send the gold to main (Trade).
Never bot on main.

Will my main get banned ?=

depends on your luck, they prohibit all that was running on your PC

 

[wallyworld]

depends on your luck, they prohibit all that was running on your PC

This isn't really the right answer...

They can ban any account that has directly benefitted from a botted accout. Mailing gold and items to your main really isn't the smartest idea and could potentially lead to a ban on your main...

The chances of it happening are slim, but if you get some pissed off GM that hates bots, you very well may get banned on your main.

 

[Chopcity]

I got 2 accounts. Main and bot. I always herb and shit on bot and send the gold to main (Trade).
Never bot on main.

Will my main get banned ?=

im 100% no. like i said, i got 10 botting account (6 bot + 1 main acc running in the same bnet id) 4 more running in another same bnet id. traded over 25m gold to my main account through guild bank. been doing this for almost a year now, never got banned/warned once. BUT, like i said, if you attach HB to your main acc, you get fucked, i.e, i was leveling one of my bot account back in may 17, i was level 25, (bought that acc may 16) i logged on, everything was fine, till i attached HB to the account, the momemt i hit "start", i got insta banned. so, i did bot 2 hours of questing, i was monitoring that account and still got perma banned, its like if they have a record when you attach the bot to your acc and bamf, banned.

 

[Chopcity]

I got 2 accounts. Main and bot. I always herb and shit on bot and send the gold to main (Trade).
Never bot on main.

Will my main get banned ?=

AH, never mail/face to face items to your main acc, just use the guild to depo/withdraw shit. thats the safest method, always use a full guild of members to not look so suspiciius

 

[wallyworld]

im 100% no. like i said, i got 10 botting account (6 bot + 1 main acc running in the same bnet id) 4 more running in another same bnet id. traded over 25m gold to my main account through guild bank. been doing this for almost a year now, never got banned/warned once. BUT, like i said, if you attach HB to your main acc, you get fucked, i.e, i was leveling one of my bot account back in may 17, i was level 25, (bought that acc may 16) i logged on, everything was fine, till i attached HB to the account, the momemt i hit "start", i got insta banned. so, i did bot 2 hours of questing, i was monitoring that account and still got perma banned, its like if they have a record when you attach the bot to your acc and bamf, banned.

Your experience isn't the norm...Your story is also confusing. You said you were insta-banned, and then you also said you quested for 2 hours. You could just be incredibly unlucky.

The chance of him being banned is always there. It doesn't mean it will definitely happen, but they can ban him.

 

[mythofworld]

Well I think in Chopcity's situation, blizzard detected attach somehow. But lets say if you use bot on your main for a week, then never use it and after few months later a banwave hits(and lets say they found a way to detect it and flagged accounts for only last 1 month). Your main wouldn't get banned. We should just pray that when we use bot, they dont ***** HB security and not flagging us. You are not insta-flagged for attaching HB usually. If they could do that, we wouldn't live a day with botting. So it is about time and if Blizz found a leak to detect HB during we use.

 

[wallyworld]

Well I think in Chopcity's situation, blizzard detected attach somehow. But lets say if you use bot on your main for a week, then never use it and after few months later a banwave hits(and lets say they found a way to detect it and flagged accounts for only last 1 month). Your main wouldn't get banned. We should just pray that when we use bot, they dont ***** HB security and not flagging us. You are not insta-flagged for attaching HB usually. If they could do that, we wouldn't live a day with botting. So it is about time and if Blizz found a leak to detect HB during we use.

Blizz doesn't just detect attachment for 1-2 people here and there. If they detect attachment, there will be a banwave. That is a guarantee.

The more likely scenario is he pissed off someone else leveling by stealing mob kills and they told everyone in the zone to report him for botting.

 

[Chopcity]

Blizz doesn't just detect attachment for 1-2 people here and there. If they detect attachment, there will be a banwave. That is a guarantee.

The more likely scenario is he pissed off someone else leveling by stealing mob kills and they told everyone in the zone to report him for botting.

nope, i was monitoring the bot.

 

[wallyworld]

nope, i was monitoring the bot.

Ok, but you still could've been reported by 100 people and you'd never know it.

 

[speshulk926]

Ok, but you still could've been reported by 100 people and you'd never know it.

He monitors 24/7 100% AFK. He monitors whispers and GM reports as well. MONITORS

 

[Dimsim]

This is what i do.. and it may seem silly but hear me out.

I have 3 PCs that i bot on (very basic shit ones you don't need anything fancy they cost me $300 each from Gumtree, i bought these over a space of 4 yrs, *I had to upgrade the ram*), each one runs a VPN and a Mac changer, i have never logged into WoW using my real IP and MAC Address on these PCs (Yes you can change your MAC Address, there is a free program or you can buy one, i use the free one). I run 1 account on each computer for roughly 8 hours then i log out, i then change VPN connection and MAC Address (i have specific VPN connections and MAC addresses i use for these accounts) all up i bot 9 accounts over a day/night, the last three are running while i sleep so they are logged in a little longer then the others.

Now on my main account i only ever log into it on my good PC which i use my real MAC and IP addresses. This way if any of my botting accounts do get banned my main is safe. (Over a 4 yr period I've Never had a ban, *I WISH I COULD PROVE THIS*) ( i have had a 2 week suspensions on a few account for suspicious activity but no 6 month or greater bans) (Oh and one account i trolled trade chat with profanity and got a 36hr suspension)

All the ore, herb and other materials and stuff i get from botting i either sell to private buyers from Tradechat (the ones asking to buy bulk mats) or i run a Paid for AH bot and list. (I only use the AH bot to list never to buy or under cut.. Looks a little more suspicious doing that, especially when someone lists something and you buy it and re list it at a massive under cut, or as i seen a few times 30 pages of ore from one toon). All the gold i transfer to a lvl 60 account and either sell privately at a decent profit to myself, and cheaper then the gold selling websites or i sell directly to a few of those same gold website but a less price then what i can get it by selling it privately. (I built a good base of customers over the years, mainly from guild Ive been in and a few friends of friends so to say)

My way works for me so i thought I'd share it with you all, maybe it will work for a few of you. Either way you look at it, you should never bot on your main account if you don't want it to be banned. (It does happen) All the achievements, mounts, pets, toys, gear, raids ect you've done will be for nothing. (I'd stop playing WoW for ever if my main account got banned.)

Well I'm off, i hope you all have a good read and ponder what I've said, maybe it'll work for you maybe it wont, tho i can and will say I've been doing this for a very long time and been very successful at it. Its all about being smart and finding ways to work it to benefit yourself.

Oh one little note: To anyone that wants to say this account was made this year yes you are correct this is lucky number 9 botting account

Enjoy and may you beat the system xoxo