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A plea to the profile writers

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i bought lifetime of the bot when gb1 was out and hb was still a noob and didn't quest, only grinded (and you had to make your own meshes, too)

it has come a long way... but profiles here are donated, and if the buddy team wants to make it a featured profile, they will pm you about it.

As far as questing goes - it is not hard to learn, the hard part is patience and comprehension... and lots of testing.

The main patience I have is mesh and water behavior have major flaws in them, and cc's don't always like to obey los properly

I haven't had any real notable problems in the water yet, but yeah the mesh issue is something that gets under my skin pretty good. IE: I put a hot spot to go around something and also add it to the blacklist and the darn thing still runs into it. It's like HB takes over and ignores what I've put in the file and just runs it's own downladed mesh? I dunno, but it gets irritating to figure out how not to run into something sometimes.

Been working the last two days in outlands trying to write a horde questing profile and while I think I've got it right, my toon on the quest "Disrupt Their Reinforcements" where you have to kill mobs to get 8 demonic stones, will kill them fine and collect the stones, but for some reason, it won't use the stones on the transporter things it's supposed to. So once again, I'm stuck and can't figure out how to get it written right so it will. So yeah even when you at least think you have it right, somethings just don't seem to work. Don't know if it's an HB thing or something I'm missing at this point.


Well, with the money we're spending or have spent on this program, I'm sure some of it should go towards the right to request a profile from anyone right? Especially those with the lifetime subscription of 80euro (60euro with sale), that's about $90+ USD x)

I dont' want to have this thread turned into a debate of if HB costs to much or a for what ya get for the money post. There are plenty of those types of post already anyway.

This post was a plea for those that can write profiles, to plese do so, (yeah out of the kindness of thier heart for us noobs) because they are needed period.. Not a thread to argue about price. Nor was it a post pointed to arguing about getting donations or giving them for profiles.
 
well for that quest, here is what i did (and it's still buggy sometimes)

PHP:
		<PickUp QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" GiverName="Forward Commander Kingston" GiverId="19310" X="-680.2656" Y="1855.002" Z="66.91005" />
			<If Condition="((HasQuest(10144)) &amp;&amp; (!IsQuestCompleted(10144)))" >
				<Objective QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" Type="CollectItem" CollectCount="8" Name="Demonic Rune Stone" ItemId="28513"  />
			  <While Condition="((HasQuest(10144)) &amp;&amp; (!IsQuestCompleted(10144)))" >
				<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-418.1776" Y="1861.961" Z="85.3735" />
				<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-418.7708" Y="1848.609" Z="81.10023" />
				<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-418.1776" Y="1861.961" Z="85.3735" />
				<Objective QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" Type="UseObject" ObjectId="184414" Name="Portal Grimh" UseCount="1" />

				<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-564.7162" Y="1791.949" Z="63.04517" />
				<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-564.7162" Y="1791.949" Z="63.04517" />
				<CustomBehavior File="MyCTM" X="-548.933" Y="1783.239" Z="58.72824" />
				<Objective QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" Type="UseObject" ObjectId="184415" Name="Portal Kaalez" UseCount="1" />
				<CustomBehavior File="MyCTM" X="-564.7162" Y="1791.949" Z="63.04517" />
				<CustomBehavior File="WaitTimer" WaitTime="2000" />
			  </While>
			</If>
		<TurnIn QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" TurnInName="Forward Commander Kingston" TurnInId="19310" X="-680.2656" Y="1855.002" Z="66.91005" />

sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't =(
 
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Sarcasm is hates ugly friend and it doesn't do any community a bit of good.
If you've got nothing good to say, then say nothing at all.
It's better in that situation to be quiet and thought a fool, rather than to spew your words through a key board and remove all doubt.

Why were is the Problem on Donating some Money? I did it for CC and Profile writing so far.

If you cant make a Profile because you

a; you dont have the time
b; just to lazy
c; dont understand how

then just Donate some Money!
Were is sarcasm in that?
 
Why were is the Problem on Donating some Money? I did it for CC and Profile writing so far.

If you cant make a Profile because you

a; you dont have the time
b; just to lazy
c; dont understand how

then just Donate some Money!
Were is sarcasm in that?

It's in your precieved overall typed attitude, not simply in just what you typed but the structure of the way you typed it.

1. If you read you'd see that I'm not lazy since I am attempting quest profile writting so your a; comment didnt' need to be typed at all.
2. read 1
3. Dont' understand how? Humm well many don't know or even after spending hours reading still don't know how. I dont' know how but am trying to learn. Others have given up because they simply just couldn't figure it out. (something I myself may end up doing if I can't get things figured out)

Donations! You mean out right pay. Not a bad idea if: they got a profile that would work totally afk and right now nothing, no matter how good someone can write a questing profile, will be totally afkable due to the mesh problems and unseen or known problems within HB itself. So no one wants to pay for something broken. Isn't it enough to have already paid for a partially broken bot program? Yes, it works to a point, but as can be seen in a vast many posting within this forum, there are issues with HB. IE: it's broken. Better than it has ever been b4, but still, it's not toally 100%. Yet, everyone still pays for it, just to have something, since the best ones got shut down. So (and I absolutly do not mean any disrespect to those who have spent the hours learning and donating to the people of this forum of thier work) why pay/make donation for other broken things. To me at least, it doesn't make sense to do. So it's at present, the donations of the profiles from the menbers out of the kindness of thier heart.
 
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grinding works perfectly

questing is limited because of the devs, not the profile makers
 
well for that quest, here is what i did (and it's still buggy sometimes)


sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't =(


Aww ty. I'll use this part and see if it changes something for me in my lame attempted profile.

UseObject" ObjectId="184414" Name="Portal Grimh" UseCount="1" />

<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-564.7162" Y="1791.949" Z="63.04517" />
<RunTo QuestId="10144" X="-564.7162" Y="1791.949" Z="63.04517" />
<CustomBehavior File="MyCTM" X="-548.933" Y="1783.239" Z="58.72824" />
<Objective QuestName="Disrupt Their Reinforcements" QuestId="10144" Type="UseObject" ObjectId="184415" Name="Portal Kaalez" UseCount="1" />

But wondering if the problem that you see from time to time in this part isn't due to the known HB meshing problem. Not a question, more of just an over all comment really.
 
grinding works perfectly

questing is limited because of the devs, not the profile makers

No doub,t but as most know, grinding is far more dangerous to you and your account than questing. So it's questing needs was what was asked for.
 
download my profile pack via svn and find my 'blank qo.xml' file in the 'useful stuff' folder. it's a good starting place to arm yourself with getting familiar with behaviors
 
what would be handy for profile writers is a plugin that records your quest you do manually into a XML with some manuall additions with QB
 
Aww ty. I'll use this part and see if it changes something for me in my lame attempted profile.

UseObject" ObjectId="184414" Name="Portal Grimh" UseCount="1" />






But wondering if the problem that you see from time to time in this part isn't due to the known HB meshing problem. Not a question, more of just an over all comment really.

See t1a1? All you need to do is ask for help and someone will help you out with making a profile, just like I said. But, again and again, asking or pleaing for other people to do it isn't going to do anything...

Edit: that plugin would be amazing but would be a bitch to make lol
 
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Edit: that plugin would be amazing but would be a bitch to make lol

Even then it will cost time to make a Profile not counting the Time you need to make such a Plugin..

And here are we again withe the Concept of "Donating" I rather do that once and know we have a few happy "Profile" and CC makers rather than Guys who make one Profile and dont never date it up to a newer Version. (by the way we have that Situation ATM with some Profiles)
 
Even then it will cost time to make a Profile not counting the Time you need to make such a Plugin..

And here are we again withe the Concept of "Donating" I rather do that once and know we have a few happy "Profile" and CC makers rather than Guys who make one Profile and dont never date it up to a newer Version. (by the way we have that Situation ATM with some Profiles)

But that's how "public profiles" really work. People make it for themselves and then share to everyone else. There are very few people who make profiles and stuff for fun and share to the rest of us and keep it updated. And the same goes for CCs, really there aren't many that keep getting updated besides like singular, fpsware, mine and glideroys, and a few other people but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. We don't get paid to make these, we make them because there isn't one that we want or can use so we make our own. Kick makes wonderful profiles and keeps them updated but you can count with your hands how many people make profiles and CCs and keep them updated. And to me that isn't right, there should be tons of people doing this, but this isn't a perfect world so whatcha gonna do?
 
Hi well I would like to start and contribute but I'm unsure where to start iv never done any programming or profile writing iv been using kicks alliance guides and they work great so I'd like to see what I can do what would be the easiest thing for me to start with and where would I find most of the information I need to get started ? Any advice is very appreciated :)
Thanks in advance :)
 
If the Nav system got worked on then alot of profile problems would be fixed.
 
But, again and again, asking or pleaing for other people to do it isn't going to do anything...

Edit: that plugin would be amazing but would be a bitch to make lol

Yeah I suppose it's that there are limits on what to ask for huh? Ask for a string to put into a prfile cuz you can't get it figiered out = OK.

Ask for a profile = NO

Dont' stand on a street corner with cerebral palsy and have no food or place to live and beg/ask for money or anything. That's not OK

But it is okay to hide your Maserati, walk to a street corner with sign in your hand stating Homeless. You'll get all sorts stopping for this individual and donating.

I see this everyday in the area I live in.
 
I don't make profiles or CC's even though im learning about CC's atm, but as far as i am concerned profiles are fine. 0-70 is a doddle and can be done in no time, 70-80 is a bit more annoying but is still acheivable, and 80-85 is just beautifull. I might have to do one or two things by hand but thats no problem at all.... look at where we have come from and gotten to....
 
I don't make profiles or CC's even though im learning about CC's atm, but as far as i am concerned profiles are fine. 0-70 is a doddle and can be done in no time, 70-80 is a bit more annoying but is still acheivable, and 80-85 is just beautifull. I might have to do one or two things by hand but thats no problem at all.... look at where we have come from and gotten to....

Care to list those profiles that are so opt of which you speak? Are they horde or alliance profiles?

I've ran a large amount of them and it's a whole lot more interaction than just annoying at times and in some cases, isn't achievable at all. Some of it is , because of the meshing isses between Wow and HB and not the profile, but then too, there are big issues in many of the profiles, that have nothing at all to do with HB and so, you get one, run it, find the bad issue areas, spend maybe an hour trying to clean it up and test it over and over till ya get it fixed, then off to the next hang and over ya go again. Hardly a doodle and or just annoying. I've spent a whole lot more time trying to fix bad things in the profiles I've tried to use, than I've actually been able to spend actually leveling with the horde quest profiles I've tried to use. But alas, I've learned you can't ask for anyone to do something who can. Maybe my asking for which profiles you speak of so adamantly about is asking too much also here.
 
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All of kicks profiles run perfectly, they are alliance but I think he has some neutral ones or something.

But asking for help is ok, asking for someone to do the work for you is not ok. That's all I or anyone is trying to say.
 
All of kicks profiles run perfectly, they are alliance but I think he has some neutral ones or something.

But asking for help is ok, asking for someone to do the work for you is not ok. That's all I or anyone is trying to say.

Yeah I guess doing something for those less fortunate in abilities is taboo these days. No need to be kind and do for someone else less able. Yep sad days indeed in this world.

I asked for those that can on the most simplistic of reasons. Because they can and others can't. I figured b4 I made my plea, I'd see this type of stuff. I gave it a try. I'll make no more mistake like that here again. I'll get what use I can out of the program since I already paid for it, but that'll be the end of it for me. I chalk it up to buyer beware. I thought I was getting a full Botting program, Not something that required hours and weeks of schooling first to use it or an editor program. Once I learned I had not purchased a fully self contained botting program, I ask then for help or them to do it becasue they can and already know how and that it was needed. Some people just want to bot, not program. In truth there are more of those types that buy this program that want that, more then they want to learn scripting. For others the learning and doing it is thier joy. But as we see, there are more of the first kind then the other.Those that want to learn xml generally go to a place where they learn that. They don't buy something then by default HAVE TO learn it in order to use it or the other choice is to have settled on they have wasted thier money.

Yes, you have to eventually learn how to drive a car first or at least once you get it. But that is a known situation first and one usually accepted. Many come here not knowing much of nothing and yeah. they get bit.
 
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Yeah I guess doing something for those less fortunate in abilities is taboo these days. No need to be kind and do for someone else less able. Yep sad days indeed in this world.

I asked for those that can on the most simplistic of reasons. Because they can and others can't. I figured b4 I made my plea, I'd see this type of stuff. I gave it a try. I'll make no more mistake like that here again. I'll get what use I can out of the program since I already paid for it, but that'll be the end of it for me. I chalk it up to buyer beware. I thought I was getting a full Botting program, Not something that required hours and weeks of schooling first to use it or an editor program. Once I learned I had not purchased a fully self contained botting program, I ask then for help or them to do it becasue they can and already know how and that it was needed. Some people just want to bot, not program. In truth there are more of those types that buy this program that want that, more then they want to learn scripting. For others the learning and doing it is thier joy. But as we see, there are more of the first kind then the other.Those that want to learn xml generally go to a place where they learn that. They don't buy something then by default HAVE TO learn it in order to use it or the other choice is to have settled on they have wasted thier money.

Yes, you have to eventually learn how to drive a car first or at least once you get it. But that is a known situation first and one usually accepted. Many come here not knowing much of nothing and yeah. they get bit.

have you use ANY other bot also? glider - make your own profiles, openbot - makes your own profiles and meshes, wowbot - make your own profile, HB - make your own profile, every-bot-out-there - make your own profiles. when you get a bot that has its own 1-85 and you cant do anything to change that be ready to get banned because blizz will know exactly what you are going to do.

and this bot is the BEST bot that i have ever used and ive been botting since i started playing games like 10 years ago lol. in anything in life you are going to have to put some work in if you want something spicifically done your way, or pay for it.

you can buy this bot and not learn a single bit of coding or anything and put zero work into it and it will work wonderfully. there are plenty of profiles that work great, and grinding alone isnt going to get you banned. ive leveled 6 characters by grinding on a few different accounts and its fine.

but you can come here not knowing anything about anything, learn the very basics on just how to run the bot and you can get a character to 85, get him geared, and get tons of gold. HB is still growing, and questing is still in its very basic steps. HB will continue to grow and becomes a better and better bot, and with it questing will get better and it will be easier to make good profiles. so either wait for it to get better and eventually someone will make a profile that will meet your standards, make your own, or leave. because all you have done in this thread is gone in a circle about making profiles, when there are people here telling you what to do to make the bot exactly what you want it to be.


TL;DR- you can run HB and get 85s, gear, and gold without knowing any programming and it will work great. but if you want it to run specifically to your standards youll need to put some work in
 
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