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9 of 10 accounts banned.

Phelon said:
It isn't HB.. but I think they came up with a new way to check for bots. Something is up.. and I am not sure what.. but there are more bans lately than ever. Almost all of them gathering related. It also doesn't help that their NAV atm is fubar. Watching the bot try so hard to land right is sad times. Although I hear Nathof is working on that next. But who knows.
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100% agree, I would also like to note i notice everyone in my guild around 5pm sometimes all LOG ON all of a sudden when they are already online! then i check HB forums 2-3 hours later, several bans gone out. :(
 
Crowley said:
Biggest issue is gathering. IF you have profiles that run anywhere near trees/rocks the spastic movement of the bot trying to land will tell even a 5 year old watching that it's a bot. I mean no real player goes down/up/sideways/diagonal up/down/rinse/repeat and then fly off when it decides to blacklist it. Doesn't take long for people to say 'Watch out for so and so' to get more attention from real players than you want. Sorry to hear about the bans.

Edit: Meant to add a solution rather than just a complaint. Make the bot dismount/cancel flight aura 5-10 yards above the ground. Bot can find herbs just fine from the ground. If you can't survive that kind of fall then you have bigger problems ;)
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Was that a suggestion for programmers or for botters? because im not sure how you set it up to do that?
 
MadDog said:
I will also add that i have 2 more questing bots that have been going 24/7 for the past 4 days and they were left untouched
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I'm sorry to hear your banned on the account you used gathering on. I am not banned either on the one i quest on. Is there someone out there who is banned via quest?
 
Envis said:
Honorbuddy does not have a tripwire, you are thinking of warden. Tripwire was a feature in WoWGlider that would shut down the bot if warden was updated.
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How about not giving out wrong Information?

From the HB Wiki:

Warden checks
You get the message...
Warden check in progress - please wait 15 minutes before trying again.

or, you are unable to connect to the Honorbuddy server, and you find a message like the following in your log file:
Securuty error:RemoteCertificateChainErrors
System.Security.Cryptography.X509Certificates.X509 ChainStatus A required certificate
is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock
or the timestamp in the signed file.

Honorbuddy uses an auxilliary program called 'Tripwire' that watches for changes in the Warden. If the Warden is doing something unsavory, Tripwire shuts Honorbuddy down?or prevents it from launching?and displays the above message. In short, Tripwire is potentially keeping you from being banned.
If this happens, check the forums for any news, then try to use Honorbuddy again in a few minutes.
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Sorry to hear about the ban.

Currently running Kick's/GB2 but only for 4-6hrs at a time no more than 10hrs a day. No ban yet. *Crossing fingers*
 
It looks like its a HUGE banwave in the US...
I've been botting 3 chars from 1.90 in the last 2 months and not a single ban..
I'm EU tho
 
Kickazz006 said:
it has nothing to do with hb ... someone prob keeps a close eye on the realm(s) ur botting on and is reporting you
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On 5 different realms all at the same time? Unlikely. But you're right, I don't think it's HB - I think it's Blizzard.

I think there's a gathering trap out there. I noticed a couple of these bots exhibited unusual behavior recently - for no apparent reason, the screen would turn black, then WoW would crash. I became concerned Blizzard had placed a bot trap on my route, so I made a new route, and set the bots to using that instead.

What if there is a new herb introduced, that shows up as an herb client-side, but has no associated geometry? So the server says there's an herb, and the client THINKS there's an herb, but there's visually nothing there to 'grab'? Normal players would complain about there being a 'phantom' herb, and start the usual conversation chain about phasing/zoning. Botters would try to pick the herb, and get stuck in the trap. There's no need to place underground herbs to catch us, that alone would get 100% of botters and 0% of players. There's a lot of ways to ban us, that's just one scenario that closely fits my situation.

Botters have been getting away with murder, botting promiscuously in a permissive, consequence-free environment, because Blizzard apparently didn't care. But they seem to care now, and are whipping out a myriad of tools to stop us. I'm just surprised they didn't care until now, after the game's been out like 10 years or so.

If I still loved the game, I wouldn't be botting it anyway, so it's not an emotional downer for me. I mainly regret the loss of time - I've been making HonorBuddy addons for an entire year now. Time to find a new hobby.
 
I got one closed yesterday also, haven't appealed yet. Basically it got closed last month on a 4/hr gather, 4 hr quest = about 8 hours per day. Took a week or two ff of it, and started back at 12 hours a day to see how long it would last. It lasted 9 days - unless I get the ban lifted ;)
 
Kamilche said:
On 5 different realms all at the same time? Unlikely. But you're right, I don't think it's HB - I think it's Blizzard.

I think there's a gathering trap out there. I noticed a couple of these bots exhibited unusual behavior recently - for no apparent reason, the screen would turn black, then WoW would crash. I became concerned Blizzard had placed a bot trap on my route, so I made a new route, and set the bots to using that instead.

What if there is a new herb introduced, that shows up as an herb client-side, but has no associated geometry? So the server says there's an herb, and the client THINKS there's an herb, but there's visually nothing there to 'grab'? Normal players would complain about there being a 'phantom' herb, and start the usual conversation chain about phasing/zoning. Botters would try to pick the herb, and get stuck in the trap. There's no need to place underground herbs to catch us, that alone would get 100% of botters and 0% of players. There's a lot of ways to ban us, that's just one scenario that closely fits my situation.

Botters have been getting away with murder, botting promiscuously in a permissive, consequence-free environment, because Blizzard apparently didn't care. But they seem to care now, and are whipping out a myriad of tools to stop us. I'm just surprised they didn't care until now, after the game's been out like 10 years or so.

If I still loved the game, I wouldn't be botting it anyway, so it's not an emotional downer for me. I mainly regret the loss of time - I've been making HonorBuddy addons for an entire year now. Time to find a new hobby.
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I don't bot for the time frames that have been posted before, only 1-2 hours a day for personal use.
In the Valley of the Four Winds I have seen mine/herb nodes that appeared to be there, but when bot attempted to pick it nothing...I don't know how many times the bot attempted to pick mine/herb, after a few seconds it blacklisted and moved on. I took it as a "un-phased out" already picked mine/herb...
 
Got hit by the hammer today also, 2/3 closed.....only my main survived.

US realm both gathering accs, I was using Ducks double profile iirc
 
US have always been more aggressive to botters, these are server side script bans which is why it's good to stay below radar.

I believe that the way they do this is by checking [Time Online], [Nodes Gathered]. [Player Reports]... it's not hard to work out since we know that they use server side scripts and that the only thing that stands out from us botters and normal people are the patterns in relation to time online and the nodes gathered (and ofcourse some other info), I also believe that if they are only player bound and not account bound then you could just switch characters every 5 hours and do 24/7.

MadDog had large amount of achievements so it's obvious that they don't whitelist, they only check certain things and don't exclude botters based on achievements etc.
 
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Not all people post here about bans so I think its safe to say they banned a crapload of accounts in the US
 
I used gatherbuddy every few days for 12 hrs/day up until 2-3 days ago. Since then I have only botted bgbuddy 24/7 and both my accounts are fine (US). Maybe they added some hook yesterday and sent out bans today.
 
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