30+ 50+ bot PC

[megabbyte]

Where are you from botur?

 

[frosticus]

Where are you from botur?

apparently somewhere they dont put a large emphasis on spelling or math

im spending like 1h a day on maneging my 10 acc so i tink ill spen 5-6 h or less for 100 of them

if 10 accounts take one hour
how many accounts can i run in 5 hours?

 

[botur]

if 10 accounts take one hour
how many accounts can i run in 5 hours?

hehehe yes if i get more accs i need to post stuf from them seperetly i cant just log in and sell them from one trader right ?? i need to mutiplay everythink for that meny acc yes ? so i will log in on 10 difrent sellers insted of one 2 post few items on each right ? i know that in some cases its right think 2 do but im not farming ore so i wont be selling 500 stacs of ore or herbs from one toon so i can do it faster by sendin most of my drops to one char insted of 10 and just log in once and post it !! and if i remember corctly with a bit of thinking u can get bots to send stuff automatycly to designeted toon so if i dont know math then u dont know enything
ps i never learn english enywhere i just wach a bunch of movies and play lot of games thats how i know this lenguage so F..O.. i can spell however i wont
ps2 if i run dungeonbuddy with LFG mechanics and full team of 5 and if i setup hbreloger right i dont need 2 tuch them at all my bots running 3 days in a row now i i dont even once had 2 click on them whole 3 days ... ok until 3 das ago thar was need for me 2 unstuck them or keep an eye on them couse of "code 12 signaling that it should not be restarted again" but i menage 2 workaround that problem so now im confident i dont need 2 tuch my bots after they r setup geared and lvled unless my pc restarts or i loose internet conection or smothing like that so its rly not that big of a time eater running 10 or 50 or 100 just log in on trader sell stuff sell gold asap = 5h every day or less






summary of the day
iv been rading allot whole day including some of ur opinions ... YES SOME OF THEM WAS ITERESTING
and iv decidet 2 use :
2 seperate isp
1 additional gsm/3G internet connection just 2 use my SELL GOLD acc

one pc - for use with my trade acc (my wife laptop )
one seperate pc - selling gold (my netbook)
one seperate pc 2 use with my "BANK' acc (some old junk from my old parts, wow is working on it )
and 2 - 4 botting station 2 run 80-100 acc
i will test how menny acc can run safly (at least a month of life) on one pc "bals to the wall !!" lets test it and then i will decide if i go with 2 big rigs or few smaller
PS fuck the VM's !!!!this shit is worthless i was botting diablo 3 befour me and my friend we (live in difrent citis) we both had 5 acc my was running without vm and he had a better pc so he run with VM's we both get banned twice at around same time i get 2/5 he get 5/5 and scond time i get 4/5 he get 4/5 so FUCK VM's

 

[jermaine.dupree]

reply to my PM

 

[pimpampum]

Good luck on your endeavor Botur.

But now, If you really are a grown up man, married and such, you might want to give up botting dreams and get a real job. An architect one is just fine.

Botting is much more complicated than what you assume. You also are aparently quite reticent to accept the advises people here are giving you. And your plans are so far off, it's quite funny for anyone actually doing this in any serious mode.

Tell me, when you get your 100 accounts banned at the same time by blizzard, instantly marking your IP as a gold selling one, how are you planning to proceed? Are you aware you'll need 100 new accounts, with new playtime and battlechests / MoPs if you wanna stay off the radar? Do you really think 50 (assumming that you will have 2 isp. Even that is not as easy at it sounds.) accounts in the same IP will look normal to blizzard all seeing eyes?


You seem to think your experience with d3 has something to do with Wow. Allow me to tell you, they don't give a fuck on d3 bots. They never actually cared, and the "banwaves" were probably only due to soothe the forum masses.

I wish you luck, but to me it looks like your experience is going to be a terrible one, because it's based on quite unrealistic expectations and it doesn't seem like you have the knowledge and experience to start such project.

There's been other people with big plans previously, many of them. They last 1 month at most, after that they simply stop posting. You can do the guess.

 

[frosticus]

i doubt he will even recover his initial investment.

100 battlechests, 1500usd
33-3session hb keys- 2500 usd
first month is free ofc
2 computers, average 2500 usd
electric bill for 30 days ???usd
internet bill for 30 days ???
says he is using his phone's 3g internet to sell the gold? add the phone bill
he lives in a third world country where you can make more than minimum wage with one bot? how long will it take you to earn the money for the initial investment.

or...
OP has money and is in it for the lulz. in that case i bet he loses interest before he gets to the first month.

learned english from movies and video games, does the OP still live at home with moms and dad?
what does his gf say about him laying around the house all day starting and stopping bots for hours at a time.

run 100 bots with 5-6 hours maintenance? sorry no. not going to happen. going to take you a month or two just to get half of them leveled up. computer with 30 gigs of ram for under 1500 bucks, not going to happen.

OP has no clue what he is stepping into. at my most busiest times i was running 8 bots. 8. and it was consuming my whole day keeping track of what was doing what and how long they had been doing it. the days of running gatherbuddy 18 hours a day are over. sorry bro. aint happening.

subs alone are costing you $1500 a month, doesn't count the electricity and internet.
go get a real job and buy nice things with your paycheck.

ofc you might make some gold when the next expac happens. but then you better know how to write your own profiles, cause there are none in existence for the new content. sure kick is working on ally questing, and some others might have a few at release, but you can imagine all the people flocking to the public stuff on the forums. might as well paint a bullseye on your back running the first set of public gathering profiles.

take the advice, or not, you are smarter than all of us who you came to ask for advice in the first place.

 

[botur]

ok ... pimpampum is probebly the firs guy who have eny idea about what im getting in 2 hes post is made with brain and knowlege behind it and its giving me at least the pause 2 rly think about my intentions but ....

THIS ???!!!

run 100 bots with 5-6 hours maintenance? sorry no. not going to happen. going to take you a month or two just to get half of them leveled up. computer with 30 gigs of ram for under 1500 bucks, not going to happen.

OP has no clue what he is stepping into. at my most busiest times i was running 8 bots. 8. and it was consuming my whole day keeping track of what was doing what and how long they had been doing it. the days of running gatherbuddy 18 hours a day are over. sorry bro. aint happening.

-first of all im not from us and im not talking about "bucks" but euros and "buck" is not the most powerfull curency in the world hehehe
-second why u even talking 2 me if u have run mostly 8 bots at the time ??!!! im running 10 now and i easy maitainning them spending acctual 1 hour at most
-third if u saying month or 2 to lvl up a toon then u RLY DONT KNOW ENYTHING ABOUT THIS BOT lvling each toon to 90 took me around 4 days rest (5-6 days ) is the time i need to fully gear them up in JP stuff / gems / reforge / enchants and 5-6 days is at most usualy should be able to do that in 2-3 days

so frosticus pls dont speak eny more

pimpampum ... eny advice ? after "puting me back on the ground" couse i rly need ur knwlege

 

[pimpampum]

pimpampum ... eny advice ? after "puting me back on the ground" couse i rly need ur knwlege

I just intended to give you a wake up call. I'd like you to realise your number are completely wrong. But if you wanna choose this as a job, don't let me distract you from it.

You live in a country with a low average salary.That is really good for your goal. That makes the amount you would need every month to "pay" for your work lower, but also makes the initial investment much stronger and much harder to pay off. It's up to you to decide if and when to try that.

Before you do, I'd advise to go slowly building up. Try to find a method to complete afk your system. Hb relog or any relogger for a fact help, but are not enough. Also, make some contacts in the gold selling bussiness. You don't wanna spend any time finding sellers at any cost. Some people in gold selling are really nice, and trustfully. I'd avoid asian ones as they are most likely to be investigated by blizzard due to sheer volume.Also, some become careless after being banned for the 10000th time. You would do well avoiding those.

You already have a comp running 10? Nice. Max it, try to insert a few more in there. Consider certain plugins that will disable rendering completely, if you manage to create an effective 100% afk method.

Then, once you're made the profit with your first 10, buy another comp and try to add 10 new bots, or 15-20 if the machine can hold it. But 5 at a time.

In my experience, there is a point in botting for profit where you start to dislike spending time controlling the bots, changing profiles, updating HB and wows, editing profiles, formatting computers, Creating new accounts, buying new battlechests and Mop, ad everything related. It is not a bad thing. That's the point where it becomes a job. Are you willing to continue doing the same after that happens? Cause it will.

Knowledge and experience in this is given mostly by time. Running 10 bots helps. Running 30 for a year helps more. And so on, you'll never stop making contacts and improving your performance. Of course, IT preparation is always helpful, as are Programming abilities.

TLDR? Go slow, don't try to go from 10 to 100. Update to 20 and see how it goes. You'll find how many you can handle, and believe me , 100 is simply not possible for an individual.

 

[bloodmarks]

apparently somewhere they dont put a large emphasis on spelling or math

Frost, from point of your botting related knowledge, i do respect you, but what you just said is a bit insensitive, and short-sided
first do you really expect perfect spelling and language skills from someone that already said that he is from another (non english speaking) country? (intentionally wrote word "english" without capital letter just for you )

how good is your Chinese spelling by the way Frost?
also you wrote word "dont", i always thought correct spelling is "don't" or "do not"

if 10 accounts take one hour
how many accounts can i run in 5 hours?

i doubt he is not able to multiply number of hours correctly, but he probably was calculating also overheads and scaling,

time spent on management of account never scales linearly, some parts of work you do just once for 1, or 10 or 100 accounts, so you count them just once.
And yet, some other you need to do for each one separately so you need to multiply them by number of accounts you are managing, BUT even in that case with more accounts you get more practice and find some smaller optimizations so even there you have some savings/improvements ...

im spending like 1h a day on maneging my 10 acc so i tink ill spen 5-6 h or less for 100 of them

5-6 h instead of (linear) 10h does seem like reasonable expectation on scaling and with time he can probably increase scaling even more/make it closer to 4h or even less (when he learns some tricks)

 

[bloodmarks]

i doubt he will even recover his initial investment.

while i really disagree with his one-IP plan, most people recover at-least account costs in WOW (it is not hard to recover 8 eur before ban per account, except if your really unlucky or really stupid, that is 60k gold per account only)

100 battlechests, 1500usd

only real cost and its 8 eur if you buy code or even 4 euros if your into giving Blizzard your credit card number/paypall info, i prefer to pay more for code

33-3session hb keys- 2500 usd

this is one time cost, you pay it only first month so if you deprecate cost over a year or two ... its much lower per month
In addition you can buy used keys for cheaper (a bit risky but option if you trust seller) or ask HB team to quote you custom price since after all with 100 licences i am sure they can give you some discount (significantly lower price)

2 computers, average 2500 usd

this really depends on those computers i guess but again one time cost that you can deprecate over several months/years you don't need to pay every month, plus computer hardware has good resell value

electric bill for 30 days ???usd

approx 7.2 euros for every 100w or around 20 euros/month for 1PC/40 euros for 2PCs
this part of equation is quite insignificant i would say

internet bill for 30 days ???

probably around 50 - 80 euros per month total (two separate ISPs) again insignificant compared to WOW batlechests

says he is using his phone's 3g internet to sell the gold? add the phone bill

he has to have phone anyway (as much as any other person in world really has to have it, i mean they don't but everyone has it)
so bill is there anyway he just needs to add costs of extra 3G traffic and if its only trading it means he login's few times per day 2 minutes each - insignificant bandwidth amount/cost

he lives in a third world country where you can make more than minimum wage with one bot? how long will it take you to earn the money for the initial investment.

he said he is already botting on 10 accounts he will probably reinvest money gained that way to expand his bot farm

learned english from movies and video games, does the OP still live at home with moms and dad?

a lot of people (including me) have learned English from English language entertainment like movies and video games and (to less extent) books, just because someone plays video games and watches movies does not mean he is young basement dweller, fun fact: average age of WOW players is around 30 years old.

by the way Frost, did you stop watching movies and playing video games when you moved out from parents home?

what does his gf say about him laying around the house all day starting and stopping bots for hours at a time.

ugh, i would assume normal person would find girlfriend/boyfriend that they are compatible with, but as far as my experience with girls goes,
most of them lay whole day on couch play games on phone, send SMS/FaceBook and watch TV ( i do tend to date younger girls, and they look like their android is glued to their hands)
so why would she mind if he does something similar?

run 100 bots with 5-6 hours maintenance? sorry no. not going to happen. going to take you a month or two just to get half of them leveled up.

it will be MUCH faster if he uses RAF, and considering he is doing 5man groups anyway, no point doing it any other way
so he COULD spin up and get to 85 on all accounts in day or two since bots will be doing more or less same (random dungeons) as they would when grinding setup will be even shared

computer with 30 gigs of ram for under 1500 bucks, not going to happen.

i don't think amount of ram will be main cost if its DDR3 you can get 32GB for less than 300 euros, probably for 300$ if you avoid EU tax somehow/buy directly from USA Amazon for example, his biggest cost will be CPU, as long as he does not give 1'000 $ for CPU he will be (significantly) under $1'500
In poor countries we don't buy "boutique PCs" that look "so cool" and pay twice as much for them as hardware actually costs because motherboard is blue or it has red lights, here we either buy (cheapest) parts and make our own PC, or buy parts and give store extra $10 to make PC from parts instead of us

OP has no clue what he is stepping into. at my most busiest times i was running 8 bots. 8. and it was consuming my whole day keeping track of what was doing what and how long they had been doing it. the days of running gatherbuddy 18 hours a day are over. sorry bro. aint happening.

false, if you know how gathering still works great, doing it 12h/day accounts survive more than a month already, also requires VERY low amount of maintenance but watching bot is still mandatory

subs alone are costing you $1500 a month, doesn't count the electricity and internet.
go get a real job and buy nice things with your paycheck.

while true, as I already said this is only "running" cost (one you have to pay every month) either new accounts or game-cards, i prefer new accounts, cheaper and safer

as he already said real job pays 500 euros/month and he is already making more with botting, botting in poor and rich country is not same.

 

[frosticus]

my post was written in haste in a time of great emotional stress. i do apologize if i took it a little far. i bow to your superior knowledge and experience.

/leaves the thread with head down in shame.

 

[Soullinker]

I won't discourage you doing what you want botur considering that i am interested in seeing IF i can manage something like that too.

But here is what i learned with botting with 30 accounts, of course they are not 100 but still.

Having a powerful computer on which you are gonna put all your bots is a bad idea. Because Blizzard does ban in some cases every single account that is used on that machine. Happens quite often really. Plus lets agree that you gonna stand out if you have running 30 accounts, i am not sure but its not to hard to imagine that Blizzard has a trigger for numerous accounts run on the same MAC adress or HWID. As a botter standing out is the last thing you wanna do as a botter.
Its is far better to get multiple PC and ISP. Plus i have a feeling that a 3 PC that can run 10 bots each gonna be cheaper than 1 that can run 30. Different ISP are self explanatory.

How much can you automate your accounts? Can you leave your WoW+HB run for a month with no supervision? Because if you can't even make 4-5 accounts run without you babysitting them for a month you have no chance with 100. Can you automate your PC? You know HBReloger or Areloger do crash and fuck up from time to time, better have a way for that PC to restart and auto start HBReloger and everything on its own. All things considered you should not spend more than 1-2 hours per account from start to end. If you spend 2 hour per account in one month with 100 accounts that is around 8(200 hours) days. Hope you see my point how important automation is.

What are you gonna farm? All servers are different. On one server Embersilk is 50g on other 15g. So you need great profiles and things to farm. The more things you farm the better. Still profit will be different on different servers. Please don't tell me dungeons.

Selling to Chinese? Thats fine if you know a fine guy to sell you won't get banned. But price is unstable... one day its 0.3 the next is 0.22. Kind of big uncertainty.

But honestly dude...good luck i want to read about you in the success forum.

Oh and not to a jack ass: Here is the my config it can run 30 bots if i want.

CPU: Intel 3770K
MB: Asrock Z77 Extreme 6
Video: It matter not but ATI HD9770
RAM: 32GB

Rest is not important.

 

[Angelus]

You already have a comp running 10? Nice. Max it, try to insert a few more in there. Consider certain plugins that will disable rendering completely, if you manage to create an effective 100% afk method.

Been a while since I saw someone post something like this randomly. Perhaps you know of a such a plugin that isn't private?

 

[bloodmarks]

when you have 100 bots its not a problem to pay for private plugin Angelus
and doubt anyone can answer here since so called "hacks" like rendering disabler are forbidden on HB forums for legal reasons

 

[joachimb]

This topic has been treated a thousand times. multiple computers, cheap ones ...
I have a 1800 € computer ... useless for botting (well, that expensive is useless).

 

[Reviir]

Beter to run multiple low power machines in different isp lines if ur in us

 

[Kickazz006]

Take it from a pro. Either go balls deep or go home.

You want 30 bots, not a big deal. you want 30+ bots, you're going to have to invest some cash.

You want:
Asus mobo that supports 32 or 64gb memory (depending on how many bots you're running)
intel i7 or amd 8 core - i7 has outperformed the 8 core quite often
1x 6gb video card will suffice - most of wow is memory and cpu based. my 7970 never bats an eye when I have 20 bots running. (same with my 6950)
32gb memory (or more - preferably 64gb memory)
240gb+ ssd for OS and WoW
1000w+ psu (don't skimp on the psu, you will regret it). Get at least the 'gold' rated, don't get bronze rated. I like Silverstone.
Cooling - you will want liquid cooling. you don't need it for your video card unless you're bit mining - wow is not really gpu intensive for bots.

learn how to edit the settings file and turn off *everything* video / cpu related. Bots don't need fancy stuff. put your windows down to 200x100 in the settings file. Get an auto log in / relogger

 

[McWeiss]

sorry for ot, but this just made me laugh...

...btw im an architect...

nevertheless i wish you all the best. tell us how it is working out for you!

 

[bloodmarks]

Take it from a pro. Either go balls deep or go home.

You want 30 bots, not a big deal. you want 30+ bots, you're going to have to invest some cash.

Listen to this guy, he has great TECH skills and botting experience, and he does know what he is doing

Asus mobo that supports 32 or 64gb memory (depending on how many bots you're running)
intel i7 or amd 8 core - i7 has outperformed the 8 core quite often

while he is right, instead of ASUS you can also get ASRock, same manufacturer just different brand, and has less bells and whistles (like extra SATA cables) and is usually cheaper

also i would like to add make sure motherboard has 4 DIMM slots (8 for 2011 platform)
as for AMD VS I7, while AMD will work as he said, I would prefer Intel, several people running significant number of bots including me noticed AMD can simply run less, seems WOW is optimized for Intel,
also make sure its last generation CPU like 4770 or 5960X because higher IPC, lower power use and more CPU cache means A LOT, especially cache

1x 6gb video card will suffice - most of wow is memory and cpu based. my 7970 never bats an eye when I have 20 bots running. (same with my 6950)

while he is 100% right 7970 will be enough, it is actually overkill, if you reduce details/optimize WOW/HB as you should even much slower GPU with less memory will work
with $150 worth GPU like Radeon R7 265, and only 2GB of DDR5 you will have more than enough GFLOPS, memory bandwidth and memory amount to run 40+bots with optimized settings

just make sure its GDDR5, its at least 2GB and has minimum 128 bit memory path (better if its 256 bit like R7 265)

32gb memory (or more - preferably 64gb memory)

also true, in general 1GB of ram for each WOW+HB, 64GB should enable you at least 60 bots if you don't go plugin/addon crazy

240gb+ ssd for OS and WoW

agree 100% SSD is worth every cent, also i suggest 2*120GB in raid0 instead of one 240GB since performance is double

1000w+ psu (don't skimp on the psu, you will regret it). Get at least the 'gold' rated, don't get bronze rated. I like Silverstone.

while gold rated and platinum rated PSU is great long term investment because of savings on electricity 1'000W PSU for CPU/GPU combo that uses max 250W is wasted, if you will have additional GPU in there or overclock heavily it might come in handy but for botting machine really not sure i see point

Cooling - you will want liquid cooling. you don't need it for your video card unless you're bit mining - wow is not really gpu intensive for bots.

I assume Kick is living in some very hot country, or does not have AirConditioning, or overclocks CPU a lot, and it is why he has to use liquid cooling, but for me (living in eastern Europe and NOT overclocking) default air cooler that comes with Intel I7 is perfectly fine, CPU might be a bit on high side but i will replace it anyway before 3 year warranty period is over
but since there are some cheap liquid coolers you might as well pay few extra bucks for piece of mind and possibly a bit of overclocking

learn how to edit the settings file and turn off *everything* video / cpu related. Bots don't need fancy stuff. put your windows down to 200x100 in the settings file. Get an auto log in / relogger

this is very important correctly configured WEOW/HB can get you from 8*WOW to 50+ WOW per PC