2x more people in Honorbuddy forum then in the demonbuddy forum?
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you DO realize that honorbuddy is for world of warcraft right?
the best selling mmo of all time?
of course there are going to be more players there?
esp since MoP just came out?...
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They're children who like to play panda games 
mephuser1000
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Of course, they're making more $ than us. Tech support response time is several faster there also.
They're children who like to play panda games
Correction, they're evil *****-clowns that exploit children who like to play panda games, not to mention sinisterly rich also.
As opposed to us grown adults who still play video gamesThey're children who like to play panda games
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Honorbuddy been out for years
Demonbuddy been out for months
WoW 5million(rough estimate) more players then Diablo
simple math
Demonbuddy been out for months
WoW 5million(rough estimate) more players then Diablo
simple math
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They're children who like to play panda games
As if it came out of my mouth
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Honorbuddy been out for years
Demonbuddy been out for months
WoW 5million(rough estimate) more players then Diablo
simple math
Store shelves here have a lot of unsold MoP...
I think no expansion will ever match the classic+tbc times in my opinion
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WOTLK started the downward spiral.
Cataclysm started hemorrhaging subscriptions.
MoP effectively sent WoW into a vegetated state.
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Pretty accurate
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No, completely innacurate. WoW had it's most players at ICC. Wrath was better liked than TBC, and the only people that said they liked vanilla were the people that lie, never played it, or were part of a 40+ perfect raid guild. Vanilla fucking sucked, TBC made it a tad better, the game only became as popular as it did BECAUSE of WOTLK. Getting tired of you newer people thinking you playing the older versions. Take off your rose-tinted goggles and notice how bad vanilla was, wait, you probably never even played it.
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Vanilla has 7-10 million subs and coined the famous "played by X Millions players worldwide" catchphrase. You had fat females auctioning themselves off "to be mounted" just to be able to buy a +60% movespeed mount. And who could have forgotten those white trash noob paladin kids who whined about being PK'ed by Undead Rogues. And Warlocks were plain masochistic to play as.
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I only played WoW cause I wanted to kill Arthas back from Warcraft 3 My warlock pwnt dps in WoTLK.
My warlock pwnt dps in WoTLK.
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During WOTLK WoW reached peek number of subscribtions, which was constantly rising from WoW premiere, Cataclysm was huge dissapoitment, so after initial hype, subscribtions started dropping rapidly. I only wonder what will happen now, i guess that in blizzard plans WoW is now supposed to be game for kids with brainless mechanics, teddy bears and pokemons, while diablo is meant for older players, requiring at least minimal degree in thinking when choosing gear and skills.
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Maybe in theory, but in reality its pretty much the other way around...
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Rose tinted goggles you say. Wow vanilla was a great game - It lifted the franchise and made quite a bit more money than warcraft 3. I'm wondering if you actually played it.
I believe you're trying to apply the general experience of old times being better (rose tinted) to the idea that the game was not good when it came out
- the game not being good wasn't reflected in the playerbase or the gross net profit so I think it's rather ridiculous to make such a statement.
That's like telling me I don't like diablo 3 because I'm looking at diablo 2 through rose tinted goggles - I botted diablo 2 up until last year and loved the game - loved my fg - loved selling jewels and loved ladder experience.
Your claims of vanilla are unfounded - I did have the 40 man raids in a raiding guild - I did server first cthun and all this various content - it was extraordinarily fun and the average age of my guild was 22 years olf between 100 members or so.
The game got gay round about wotlk for me; Sure i did those raids but was losing interest. sure more players played; as new players were attracted to the game at each expansion and the previous content was good enough that you didn't see a drop of the playerbase so substantial it would outweigh the influx of new players.
Vanillia was a great game for anyone with the ability to actually play games. I was field marshal for pvp; I had to take first place in pvp for three weeks straight to achieve that - be number one - put in the time - and above all be better at pvp than everyone. Vanilla wasn't insanely balanced in pvp - The best hunter could easily win versus the best 2 rogues 1v2 - could also kill any warrior who wasn't wielding the legendary hammer from molten core.
When the game came out the raid was UBRS upper black rock spiral -that was the absolute end of the game and later on areas like mc and zg came in vannilla - and it was great as they were introduced - for anyone with the skill to complete content or the ability to field and command 40 people not to walk into fire for half an hour straight.
Wow was a great game at vanilla - and is why people even played the expansions and is the reason for wow's success - the reports and experiences of those vanilla players - which were overwhlemingly positive
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It's a shame you were not picked up by the top guild on your server so you could participate in 40 player raids. You need a bit more skill than the average player to partake and be the best - and if you had the skill they would find you.
You describe your wow vanilla experience as being a no-name no-skill nobody; or bad. Personally I would never want someone in my guild at the time who couldn't react within 200 miliseconds or one fifth of a second - people who cant do this don't have brains capable for top tier raiding - these people will not be able to interrupt a .5 second stun with 40-100 latency - the same people wouldn't be able to take rank 1 in pvp or consistently beat everyone else.
Your noted experience is that of the bad player - probably better off trying to roleplay with guys and children -
Vanilla was great - the shield which could drop from the dragon at the end of ubrs was great - the world exploration was great - the rock golems on fire blocking off areas which werent complete was great. ZG was great when that came - and mc was absolutely great when it came out - 3 sunders on the corehound - old dps - wait for it - unload - damage meters were wonderful (although less advanced at the time). going into a place like Zul Gurrub the first time ; epics rained from the sky - there was no epic rain in ubrs - the game started great in vanilla and got better and better throughout vanilla and that's why the series mmo forward was a success.
You're looking through baddie googles; where unskilled players don't enjoy skill based content revolving around teamwork - because they don't get into a pristine raiding guild because they are not good enough to be there - too heavy.
Rose tinted as it pertains to wow refers to the people who played during xyz time as there were player turnover rates. you enjoyed the old time more because you were playing with different people - that's the experience of gaming professionals.
A fight to date hasn't required the coordination and skill that 40 man cthun did - the game got easier and easier. 25 people paying attention is exponentially easier than gathering 40 able-minded people to complete content with a degree of competence.
WOTLK was not responsible for the popularity of the game - WOTLK was only made possible because of the popularity of the game as with all expansions. You make a terrible argument and I do believe you never placed top 10 in the world for wow web stats - or had any claim to fame. I think you were a bad player without skill. If you think otherwise feel free to link me any damage meter that suggests so - lord knows I have over 100 meters with king big dick here on top with perfect rotations before macros existed. As a raid leader - class leader and phenomenal player who had fun - I need to assume you were a baddie. Real Talk.
In other news - I don't play wow because I feel its gay and too time consuming anymore - but don't knock vanilla - it was better than diablo 2 - incomparable as they may be - as far as games go yes it was better - and I like many played d2 for over a decade - and only played wow a few years - but it is what it is.
Edit: anyone returning to vanilla after expansions released though ya they are retarded i would think - not as retarded as resilience - but retarded.
And yes you better believe i know aq 20/40
Edit: The bads in my guild - in casual sector - they had fun in vanilla too - and that's with not being allowed to attend progression raids - so I'm not so sure what guy rp-secked you to make your experience so horrible - but its probably your fualt for trying to engage in sex on the internet with guys.
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Wow, holy crap, that is a wall of text. Even though that's not what "Rose tinted goggles" means, I have to point out one thing. "the only people that said they liked vanilla were the people that lie, never played it, or were part of a 40+ perfect raid guild" I should of added PvP too, but ya that point still stands. I'll type more sense you felt like sending me a wall of text, I'll give the exact opposite of why it was horrible, and why MOST, people will never want to remember playing it again. However alas, I have soccer practice so the wall of text will have to wait till I come back.
Why Vanilla WoW wasn't very good (longish).
sums up until I can.
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So you came to your conclusion from reading a badly written article from a random source without any listed background or education - as if it were a scholarly article or printed in a journal.
My guild was 33% raiders 33% casual 33% pvp - we had sectors for each - with some cross-over: The casuals enjoyed there time as much as anyone else - it was fun that's why people played it and paid monthly for a recurring subscription. If it was bad and people paid a recurring subscription - I would have to file you and them with the insane. Either you played shortly - had a bad experience and left before experiencing what the game offered - even leveling was amazing so I don't get how that can be. - OR you paid for a subscription to a game you didn't like - which again is the mark of a cognitively unstable individual. So which was it?
Wow was a great success - you don't get a market leader and billion+ dollar evaluation for making bad games. You can pretend it wasn't good - the market data doesn't support your conclusion.
In fact nothing other than your own personal experience (which I believe again to be the opposite of rose tinted glasses) - the experience of your friends possibly - and some horrid article are all the evidence you bring to the table - and not a strip of it is remotely credible. It does not reflect reality - which makes me question if you sought higher education to come to conclusions which really don't favor higher thought or represent a great degree of intellect in their formation.
It's cool that you linked an article - written by an absolutely nobody in terms of gaming or education - based on ridiculous information - But this is not good source data- not a reliable source - and if anything is only a sham that's able of convincing your own beliefs which you would like to instill in others. But reality paints a different story - blizzards market share paints a different story - the amount of vanilla recurring subscribers - which broke world records - paints a different picture.
In the end you suffer from the human condition and feel as if you and those you are in contact with represent the end-all be-all defilement of reality. But the facts point in the opposite direction - Financial Statements point in the opposite direction. Maybe you felt you wasted too much of your life on endevors like wow; maybe you missed out on some things in life because of wow that brought you to your conclusion - you hold regrets as noted - you regret what you've done
which might aid us in understanding why exactly you feel this way. But when you want to present these thoughts - as anything other than a jaded personal OPINION - well you are just barking up the wrong tree because you will be called out for it. If you want to publish to the internet your opinion as though it were fact - you deserve the reality check.
Edit: The very end of your poorly choosen supporting article states "Although, still, i loved vanilla." It's an article suggesting the game improved over time - which doesn't really support your stance in the first place. Again you should have been taught how to do these things in college.
" and the only people that said they liked vanilla were the people that lie, never played it, or were part of a 40+ perfect raid guild. " Blatantly and irresponsibly inaccurate - a falsified conclusion drawn from personal experience and reports from the minority - and treated as though if it reflected the majority which is a lie.
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