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29 Battle.net Accounts Permanently Locked Down.

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How many different PCs/VM? IPs?

1 PC for all accounts.

I didnt use a vpn since some discussions in botter forums declared that they never ever ip ban... i dont know. maybe i should have created one vm for one account and vpn for each single account. nobody knows... its all speculation...
 
here what happened, blizzard investigated player reports, in some cases they stumbled up on some farming operations, and cleaned them out top to bottom, since it was a lot of accounts instead of doing them one by one, they wanted till the server load was low, to wipe them all out at once. honorbuddy is STILL undetected, warden has NOT been updated, what we are seeing now, is just the results of blizzard doing investigations into player reports, and like i said, in some cases, stumbling onto farming operations thats why we are seeing people losing 12 accounts.

its safe to bot, but be careful how you do it, anyone can get reported for anything, so its important to stay on your toes.
 
underkeeper said:
but why they responde me that they scanned my ram /cpu and found 3rd party software?
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they didnt, they only can suspect that you used 3rd party software, if they could detect honorbuddy, and they cant, then they would ban everyone and not just you.
 
CodenameG said:
here what happened, blizzard investigated player reports, in some cases they stumbled up on some farming operations, and cleaned them out top to bottom, since it was a lot of accounts instead of doing them one by one, they wanted till the server load was low, to wipe them all out at once. honorbuddy is STILL undetected, warden has NOT been updated, what we are seeing now, is just the results of blizzard doing investigations into player reports, and like i said, in some cases, stumbling onto farming operations thats why we are seeing people losing 12 accounts.

its safe to bot, but be careful how you do it, anyone can get reported for anything, so its important to stay on your toes.
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this is exactly legit... happens every month everyone starts complaining of a ban. guess its that time of the month for periods lol
 
CodenameG said:
they didnt, they only can suspect that you used 3rd party software, if they could detect honorbuddy, and they cant, then they would ban everyone and not just you.
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but they catch Hardware IDs and if on a Hardware ID are running XX Bots... hm i dont think GMs are to stupid.
At all most of Ban are going from Player Reports, we all know. And if there is a GM who really wants to know he will check. There are sooo many different Ban Situations we all know.
Fact is ... no lucky day ... better go to weiberfastnacht :)
 
I think the player reports argument is only speculative. This is said from Dev's and Mods repeatedly and should probably calm down. Why are my two leveling accounts also banned? Is it because they "have been reported" because they quested? Never.

(!) In my opinion:
There is a new algorithm which evaluates statistical data. Just collect everything that you look Just look at the Achievements to see details. If someone is flagged as farmer with several accounts they do ban by ip / hwid / Mac, idont know. But thats the only logical conclusion why leveling accounts are hit too.

Yes Honorbuddy itself is undetected, but what if Coordinates of common farm routes are blacklisted? The server itself can detect which ctm coordinates you fly to. if theres a overlay of >80% of blacklisted coordinates b?m..

Just read how people really hunt us before saying something unlogical just to calm people down.

routes.webp

Source: Server-Side Bot Detection in Massive Multiplayer Online Games
From this Journal: http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

You can always say Hb is undetected if servers detect all of us... It hasn protected one my accounts from being banned that it is undetected. No offense!
 
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Draganos said:
I think the player reports argument is only speculative. This is said from Dev's and Mods repeatedly and should probably calm down. Why are my two leveling accounts also banned? Is it because they "have been reported" because they quested? Never.

(!) In my opinion:
There is a new algorithm which evaluates statistical data. Just collect everything that you look Just look at the Achievements to see details. If someone is flagged as farmer with several accounts they do ban by ip / hwid / Mac, idont know. But thats the only logical conclusion why leveling accounts are hit too.
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or!! Just or!

It could be that someone reported you, as even the questing bots look bottish at times.
I've spotted several players using honorbuddy for questing leveling just from how they mount when going for objects and they'd run into a billion of mobs and die due to it.
Also so many players have no kind of protection against whispers
 
Draganos said:
I think the player reports argument is only speculative. This is said from Dev's and Mods repeatedly and should probably calm down. Why are my two leveling accounts also banned? Is it because they "have been reported" because they quested? Never.

(!) In my opinion:
There is a new algorithm which evaluates statistical data. Just collect everything that you look Just look at the Achievements to see details. If someone is flagged as farmer with several accounts they do ban by ip / hwid / Mac, idont know. But thats the only logical conclusion why leveling accounts are hit too.
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when you look only at the numbers you can easily tell who is cheating and who is not, yes they use automated server side "traps" to ban people, we dont know what data they collect, so yea, if they wanted to look up accounts by ip address im sure they can easily do so, we dont know how they work, but SOMEHOW a REAL person got involved into investigating A account, and from there, found the rest of the characters you where botting. it only takes one report, to find the rest of your accounts.
 
Thats what i say, you run all Accounts on 1 PC with 1 IP ... isnt it easy for Bliz to scan you IP connected to the Bliz Servers and shut them down? Has nothing to do with Gather, PVP or LVL ... they shut down because they saw there are 28 pipes open from 1 IP with 1 CPUID.

Blah... bit boozing... something little to draganos in german
Schreib denen halt und guck was du an Accounts wieder zur?ck bekommst, die LVL Accounts gehe ich mal schwer von aus. Und ja ... man kann auch beim LVLn gebanned werden, wenn der Char mal lustig 2 Stunden stuckt und x Leute dran vorbei laufen und reporten :) Aber wie du weisst ist alles oft reine Spekulation da keiner 100% genau weiss wie es bei Bliz aussieht, gemacht wird und was f?r Tools vorhanden sind.
 
like i said when you look at the data, is easy to tell who is cheating and who is not.
 
CodenameG said:
when you look only at the numbers you can easily tell who is cheating and who is not, yes they use automated server side "traps" to ban people, we dont know what data they collect, so yea, if they wanted to look up accounts by ip address im sure they can easily do so, we dont know how they work, but SOMEHOW a REAL person got involved into investigating A account, and from there, found the rest of the characters you where botting. it only takes one report, to find the rest of your accounts.
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ok, there is something really wrong with this theory. if so they would have banned all of my accounts and not only 15 while they're online. but i think you're right, when saying the client is undetected. makes sense, since not all accounts where banned and not all hb user are banned.
 
it doesnt matter, anything from here on out is just speculation, we know for a fact, there where no warden updates, and that the wow client hasnt changed, and that HB is still undetected. the fact of the matter is, his accounts where banned, thats all there is too it.
 
hello guys and girls Today i have 20 accounts perma ban..... :( i think hb is detectet
I know many people that have the same problem
THANK YOU
 
sounds funny people botting 20 plus accounts claiming detection... if you feel it is which it isn't.. don't use-- scared, say your scared end of story :-)
 
Running 40 accounts on 3 IP and i just got 18 bans, on all PC-s in same time, im monitoring them so i closed them all in few seconds. Something is detected 100% since i got mail for first account i wrote to blizzard. This is just small part "I have checked into your account and I can see your account was permanently suspended due to use of third party programs, which is against the Terms of Use". Last night they banned all USA accounts, but after 1 mail you get them all back, im not sure it will be that easy on EU since after first mail i sent they just refuse to give me back my account. Im not telling bot is detected, but you can tell your customers to stop or slow down with bot in next 2-3 days since as i can see on forum ther is like 200+ accounts banned in same hour.
Cheers
 
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