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25.5 hours, 5 level 85's. The power of RAF and Dungeoning

Yes, that's one of the beauties of Lazyboxer. The only time they can't find pathing back to the main is if they somehow get caught in combat and the main doesn't get in combat (happens occasionally). If that happens, either move the slaves out of combat or come back with your main and kill the mob that got them stuck in combat to begin with. I mentioned before that cliffs and water cause tracking issues as well, but that can be avoided by taking the long way around places when needed.

That's really the only times I found that the followers would lose track.

I now have leveled 2 additional teams to 85 using this method, bringing a grand total of 5 teams leveled to 85 using this method. I can pretty much say I've mastered the technique and know where I'll run into issues.
 
ryftobuddy said:
Yes, that's one of the beauties of Lazyboxer. The only time they can't find pathing back to the main is if they somehow get caught in combat and the main doesn't get in combat (happens occasionally). If that happens, either move the slaves out of combat or come back with your main and kill the mob that got them stuck in combat to begin with. I mentioned before that cliffs and water cause tracking issues as well, but that can be avoided by taking the long way around places when needed.

That's really the only times I found that the followers would lose track.

I now have leveled 2 additional teams to 85 using this method, bringing a grand total of 5 teams leveled to 85 using this method. I can pretty much say I've mastered the technique and know where I'll run into issues.
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What issues did you run into that you said you figured out now?
What are the comp's of your new groups?
Did you level these groups from 1-15 together (same races) or just start chain dungeons after they all go to 15 (separate races)?

Thanks in advance, I'm going to take advantage of new deals.
 
Feel free to write up a small howto on this :)

As in, what plugins are you using, which dungeons/cenarios/instances works best etc etc

I'm currently struggling to autmate RaF leveling as much as possible, and all tips would be helpfull
 
A few issues/tweaks you can make to the game/lazyboxer to make it run like it should:

- Create a macro to have the followers follow the leader. I simply use a /follow [character name] macro and bind it to key 1. Old-school multi-boxers are used to this and it's extremely handy.
- Create a macro to leave and join dungeons. When you complete a dungeon and need to zone out to repair/sell, this will be extremely handy for getting all 5 characters out of a dungeon quickly without them running off when they lose the leader. Here's the macro: /run LFGTeleport(IsInLFGDungeon()) That will both leave and join dungeons. Bind that to another key.
- Get a window-cloning program. I personally use Keyclone and find it extremely easy to setup and helps a lot when you need to send keystrokes to other windows. This is how a follow/leave dungeon macro works for me.
- Set up Autoequip 2 with your chosen weapon type and make sure to turn off roll on loot. This is the only plugin I use, but there may be others that people find useful.
- Loot everything with your main and if something needs to be given to another character, just trade it. Looting and gathering doesn't work right and will cause the bot to lose sync far too often. In dungeons, avoid most gathering quests as they aren't worth the time. Buy your main at least 16 slot bags right off the bat. This will save a lot of time since they'll be looting everything.
- Use ranged classes whenever possible. Although DK's, Warriors, Pallies and Rogues do great damage, there are certain bosses that kill melee too easily.
- Use Singular as the botbase for every character. It's the only CR that works consistently for every class with Lazyboxer.
- Control the tank yourself. Not only does this speed things up considerably, it gives you ultimate control over pulls. Dungeonbuddy is much slower than this and has lots of issues.
- You will have buy gear when you get 80 before you'll be able to move to Cata dungeons. Unless you're extremely lucky on all characters, your ilvl won't be high enough to get into the next tier of dungeons. Be prepared for that. Before 80, I haven't had to buy a single piece of gear on any character, ever.
- You can skip buying mounts all-together. There's really no need and no dungeon requires them. This will give you some extra gold to buy gear at 80 for the characters when needed. If you have a repair mount on your main, it may be handy to have mount training there, but it's not required.
- Park your characters next to a repair vendor in a major city. I personally use Stormwind for alliance and Org for Horde.
- Buy faction tabards from faction quartermasters. Get each character to revered so you can get 16 slot bags for each one. This will also help with discounts down the road for mounts and training and give them a good base when they start leveling on their own.

I could probably come up with a bunch more tips but this should get you going and it's all I really care to think of right now.

As far as leveling 1-15, I generally try to run races together, so teams of Night Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Gnomes, etc. etc. etc. When that's not possible, I just use the summon friend feature and summon the off race to the others in the group. The best starting areas for 1-15 are the Human starting area for alliance and the Orc starting area for horde. No matter what zone you start in, you're going to run into a couple gathering quests which will end up taking you time. Questing is still much much faster than grinding. I try to avoid the undead starting area and then gnome starting area. They are the least friendly starting areas for multi-boxers. I level the 5 charaters together for the triple xp bonus and so I have at least a little gear before I jump into dungeons.

As far as healers go, I try to use disc priests. They are awesome healers, can throw out some DPS and seems to work best with Singular and Lazyboxer.
 
As far as dungeons go:

Ones to avoid:

- Occulus. You'll have to bind the drake keys and it's a bitch to keep the characters following. Also, lazyboxer won't use the drake abilities correctly, so you'll have a heluva time killing the last boss. If you make it that far, I commend you. I'll never try this dungeon again.
- Vortex Pinnacle. The first and last boss will destroy melee classes. Jumping between bosses will make you have to stop the bot, move the characters to the next tier and then start it again.
- Trial of the champion. Another dungeon with mounts. The first boss is a nightmare once again.

Ones that have issues:

- Blackfathom Depths. The water here gives the bot fits. If you're going to do this dungeon, just skip quests and head to the last boss.
- Blackrock Caverns. The first boss will cause wipes. Try and move at least your healer and tank away from his spin attack or your gonna have a real tough time.
- Halls of Origination. High movement fights that will cause wipes. Easier to just avoid this dungeon.
- Grim Batol. If I do this one, I avoid flying the drakes at the beginning, or just fly the drake on one character to get 1 bombing run in and then kill all the packs. You'll have to stop the bot again to do this.
- Scarlet Monastery - Cathedral. It's tough to get good pulls after the first boss. You may end up pulling 3-4 packs of mobs together and end up wiping. Second boss can kill your group quickly if they stay clumped up. Inside the cathedral, you may run into mass pull issues as well.
- Sunken Temple - The priest boss will wipe you if you're unlucky. If you're tank gets charmed, all characters will stop working and your tank will kill them. More wipes caused because of this than any other boss.

The perfect leveling path through dungeons that would give the maximum leveling speed, but would take some luck in getting through randoms:

15-20 - Deadmines, You should get 5 levels in a single clear. Fast and easy, but you may have character die due to lack of gear and lack of aoe abilities on your tank.
20-26 - Shadowfang Keep. This should take 1-2 runs, if you end up doing 2 runs, you'll probably end up above 27.
26-32 - The Stockade. This is the second best leveling dungeon due to being able to skip all optional bosses and can go straight for the last boss. Can clear it in less than 4 minutes if you're good. Each run should get you at least 1 level.
32-36 - Any of the Scarlet Monastery Dungeons. Although I mentioned that Cathedral has issues, it's also quick, has good loot and good xp as long as you can avoid wipes.
36-40 - Maraudon - Earth Song Falls. Good, quick dungeon
40-44 - Uldaman - Same as above, not too difficult of pulls and lots of quests
44-47 - Zul'furrak - Same as above.
47-50 - Blackrock Depths - Detention Block. The fastest dungeon to clear. Kill the first packs, head right, go through the center, kill last boss and start over. Can be done even faster than the Stockade.
50-55 - Sunken Temple - Fast clear, good loot and a trinket for a quest. The priest boss will wipe you though if you're unlucky.
55-60 - Lower Black Rock Spire - Fast easy clear.
60-70 - All BC dungeons work well. Just finish one, queue again and continue on.
70-78 - Keep doing randoms. At 78, stop random and choose Utguarde Pinnacle and/or any of the Frozen Halls dungeons in Icecrown. I usually check all 4 and see what I end up with.
80-82 - Buy loot and you're going to get end up getting Throne of the Tides and/or Blackrock Caverns 5-6 times to get to 82.
82-83 - Any random will do
83-85 - Lost City of Tol'vir or Grim Batol. Grats on 85 in around 24 hours played time.


I try to do most dungeon quests, unless they're gathering quests. Thankfully there's really only a few gathering quests throughout the dungeons.

Whenever possible, it's always faster to skip optional bosses and just head straight to the last boss (unless there's quests involved). Especially at lower levels. The bonus xp for completing a dungeon is really good and the bonus packs you get at low levels contain good loot.

I could probably give tips on every dungeon, but I'm not going to. There's mechanics you'll run into that will kill characters now and then. You'll run into them yourselves on your way to 85. The tips above alone should greatly help with leveling speeds.
 
As far as Lazyboxer settings go, I set all followers up the same every time...

Make sure you have all follower set to follow the tank, who should always be group leader, at a distance of 5 and keep LOS checked. I don't change anything else under leader and following.

Under death, I don't release corpse, nor do I use move to corpse. I always have at least 2 rezzers per group, and if they're dead, it will almost always be a wipe.

Automation uses the default settings.

I don't use chat commands, never found any need to.

I don't set any keybindings, never found the need to, but I could see how it could help.

Under questing, I have interact with NPC's set to Always, Auto pick up and auto turn in on turned on, and ignore on choose quest reward and object interaction. The last 2 settings screw up a lot if they're turned on. Fetch is set to ignore.

Under Advanced, I have ticks per second set to 20 and plugins enabled. I don't force combat start, and combat assist only is disabled.

Looting and harvesting is completely disabled, I cover that a few times in the thread.

Make sure under targeting and movement that you have it set to assist leader and face target set to always. Those two settings help the most with dps not doing their job. I don't use move to target or attack from behind because movement is all handled by singular. I also use the HB nav system, and stuck handler enabled.
 
Thanks! Excellent write up... This should be compiled into a single post in the Honorbuddy Guide section!
 
Few tips.

1. Do not go random 74-80, u might end up in occulus or violet hold = waste of time. Go seperate dungeons to do quests, except those loot many items. loot boss is ok.

2. Do not go random 64-68 ( might end up in that crap dungeon dont remember name. rescue thrall something = not worth bonus xp. go seperate there plenty dungeons.

3. When you ding 80 buy gear from Iris Moondreamer sells cheap cata items. Since summon has cd I recommend share [Warchief's Command: Mount Hyjal!] to everyone, and just talk npc to travel all 5 accs to there.

4. Best dps is hunter. Especially survival 69-85 but they best 1-70 too for sure.


Someone tell me how to beat Ram'Ogg boss in Blackrock at lvl 80. Those idiots don't follow me. Ok I got it down with bloodlust + 2 hunters. DO NOT NUKE CHAINS. It's waste of time. Both hunters did 7k dps. Another option is to kill chain once and solo boss after party wiped and mass res.
 
Nedaa, you're a lifesaver as far as buying gear goes at 80...I didn't know about this npc, but you'll save me around 1kg per character with this tip.

As far as Ram'ogg goes, with keyclone I can tell the characters to back up all at once by using my walk backwards key on one character. Having all ranged helps.

Best DPS, from my experience is actually an arms or prot warrior. But once again, there's a lot of bosses that are very unfriendly to melee.


I don't know if it was you or someone else that had a post saying that Lazyboxer was worthless and it was having all sorts of issues...One thing that I always do when multi-boxing is use a new installation of HB, and I almost always run on beta. I don't add any additional CR's, plugins or other crap to the folder. I clear the cache and logs folder usually once a day. This keeps everything running smooth for me. There's a reason why the first step the buddy team will tell you to try when troubleshooting is to try a new installation. The less muddied the waters are, the better things run.
 
ryftobuddy said:
Nedaa, you're a lifesaver as far as buying gear goes at 80...I didn't know about this npc, but you'll save me around 1kg per character with this tip.
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There are also vendors across pandaria for this, for example you can run all your chars to Singegruff - NPC - World of Warcraft after the first few quests, as that area is not phased. This will let you get them ready for botting 85-90 without breaking a sweat.
 
Whatever you'd like. The main reason I did it was to grant levels to characters on my main account. Some people do it to multi-box pvp, some do it to multi-box raids and some do it just to say they did it.

You can do the same things with 5 accounts that you can do with 1.
 
I had huge problems with lazyboxer at first but my problem was just wrong settings which you posted allready. Biggest problem was Object Interaction which I figured later to turn it off. It caused wipes because healer got messed up.

My aim at first was to raf with 1 char but since 1 month gametime + 1-85 cost only 5 euros I don't see reason why not to pay 20? to let 4 chars grant you lvls.

1x85
1x69
1x53
1x36
1x22
1x11

6 chars to those lvl on main acc = 11x85lvls in brand new server. Takes like 3days /played or less.

Main problem I have is asaad at Vortex Pinnacle. around 83lvl. I actually skip it and que random when my timer is up.

Another problem can be is Stonecore/Vortex Pinnacle bosses: Vizier and Ozruk. Both easy if you put ranged for healer 20-30. If it's 5-10 they will die.

Edit: Got down asaad with all 5 alive. I alt+tabbed with all of them fast and moved to circle. All bosses very easy

Survival is very sick at 70-85. I'm running 3 hunters, 1 prot war and resto shaman for bloodlust.

Just dinged 85. Got in 21h 10min. Total dumb wipes 6 maybe, made many mistakes like not looting/returning quest. Also kicked accidently 3 instead trade. Wasted time also selling every blue item / mailing every boe found. Was semi listening or watching youtube which slowed down too. I think it could be done in 15 hours
 
I was really annoyed with whole looting/trade system so here is what I did instead:

On all 4 chars I use Fpsware Lazybot. On option choice I put on all of them

1. Roll on loot: Pass
2. Looting: Never
3. Plug-ins: Enabled

I use on all of them Auto-Equip. Everyone will need automatically + equip item. All will greed what don't need. I bought 20 bags for 200gold from Dawn Radue - NPC - World of Warcraft
 
nedaa said:
I was really annoyed with whole looting/trade system so here is what I did instead:

On all 4 chars I use Fpsware Lazybot. On option choice I put on all of them

1. Roll on loot: Pass
2. Looting: Never
3. Plug-ins: Enabled

I use on all of them Auto-Equip. Everyone will need automatically + equip item. All will greed what don't need. I bought 20 bags for 200gold from Dawn Radue - NPC - World of Warcraft
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You set Roll on Loot to pass, but they will go need and roll greed on what they dont need?

I am oficially confused....
 
Slite62 said:
You set Roll on Loot to pass, but they will go need and roll greed on what they dont need?

I am oficially confused....
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If you put need on Lazybot options it will need on every item. Even items you don't need.

If you put pass on lazybot, it will pass all items.

If you put pass on lazybot but use autoequip plugin then it will "smart need" and equip items you can use.
 
I am in the process of setting up to do something like this.

I remember when i first started multi-boxing the ideal combination was 1 pally tank and 4 shamans for dps / heals. I'm not so sure if this even matters anymore, but what classes would you recommend for ease of dungeon clearing? I was thinking pally, 3 shamans and a druid, because eventually it would be good to have a druid for gathering?
 
you can literally do any combination you want, and I'd actually say steer clear of shaman for dps unless you plan to buy high end gear for them...otherwise, they're just bad.

For ease of leveling, I'd probably go with 1 pally tank, 1 disc priest and 3 survival hunters or 2 survival hunters and a lock for brezzes and non-spirit cloth gear.

I bet 4 blood DK's and a monk healer would rip through anything above level 58 with ease, too, but I've never tried it.
 
Problem with Blood DK's are that they do shit for damage. A Blood DK for tank is pure awesomeness though.

I know I am not suposed to run tank in Dungeonbuddy... but I was farming justice points with one of my DK's in Arena of annihilation and happened to be paired up with the same team of mage and priest on three different occations, the third time this happens tha mage said something along the line of:

"YES! We got the god of tanking again!!!!!" :)
 
today i startet my own project with RAF leveling guided by your thread. After a few problems im now level 15 and tomorrow i start doing Dungons and will tell you more =)

thanks for advising :)
 
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