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20 bots + on this system ??? i7 3930 oc

bizzy1one said:
lol ... from my own personal experiences

i5 3570k ... 6-8 (6 more likely) bots absolute max with decent settings

i7 3770k ... 12-14 (12 more likely) absolute max with decent settings.

i7 3930k .... id expect 18-20 (18 being likely)

3570k - 4 core no HT
3770k - 4 core with HT = 8 core~ 100% gain over 3570 as was true with my bots.
3930k - 6 core with HT = 12 core ~ 50% projected gain over 3770k @ 8 core ... 12 x .5 is 6 + original 12 is 18.

I dont see wtf the big deal is on 40%? It seems pretty elementary to me.... logic shows to expect atleast a 50% gain with the gain of 50% more cores....???

3770k $329.00
3930k $569.00

Build a rig for both and compare yourself. Both systems will more than likely come out around $90/client in hardware using my numbers. You can get it lower if you feel like skimping in places.

I think you guys are thinking of 40% overall performance in all task gains i guess ... but it should yield 50% in bot capacity none the less.
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3770k Is 230 Where I Live.

Also I Think The (i5 3570k)-(i7 3770k) Is A Bad Representation For Ratio Of Bots When Comparing An i7 Against An i7. (3770k)-(3930k)

Technology Isn't Linear
It's The First Half Of A Bell Curve
 
I'm pretty much convinced it has 80% to do with # of cores / threads and 20% to do with performance of actual processor in terms of running more bots per machine.

I'm fairly confident 3930k will run 18 bots with my settings. 4 core 6 bots, 8 core 12 bots, 12 core 18 bots. I'm also fairly certain the sandy bridge i7's will run the same. is a rough estimate but it has held true thus far and would more than likely work all the way up into the server chips. you can dumb down bots further and push even more clients but you start sac'ing productivity. I run mine about mid range.

Maybe if they published benchmarks of 3570k vs 3930k or 3960k running 8 copies of skyrim or some shit it would be relevant to what we do. The chips ability to run 1 instance of a program at high settings is irrelevant for the most part imo.

The big turnoff when i was looking into them was the motherboards. Maybe they have come down some in cost. They were fairly outrageous before and pretty much killed any incentive in running the chip.

$1k comp that runs 12 clients or $1.5-1.6k comp that runs 18. There's really not a big difference either way other than space and bigger investments per machine.

I'm sure someone here runs 39xx's and can chime in. Would be helpful not to have the pure gold farmers running 30 instances on an 3770k/2600.
 
bizzy1one said:
lol ... from my own personal experiences

i5 3570k ... 6-8 (6 more likely) bots absolute max with decent settings

i7 3770k ... 12-14 (12 more likely) absolute max with decent settings.

i7 3930k .... id expect 18-20 (18 being likely)

3570k - 4 core no HT
3770k - 4 core with HT = 8 core~ 100% gain over 3570 as was true with my bots.
3930k - 6 core with HT = 12 core ~ 50% projected gain over 3770k @ 8 core ... 12 x .5 is 6 + original 12 is 18.

I dont see wtf the big deal is on 40%? It seems pretty elementary to me.... logic shows to expect atleast a 50% gain with the gain of 50% more cores....???

3770k $329.00
3930k $569.00

Build a rig for both and compare yourself. Both systems will more than likely come out around $90/client in hardware using my numbers. You can get it lower if you feel like skimping in places.

I think you guys are thinking of 40% overall performance in all task gains i guess ... but it should yield 50% in bot capacity none the less.
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LOL you must be crazy or have absolutely no idea about wtf you are talking about..

I have an i5 3570 k. No extra programs like isboxer. I run 10 bots easily at 60% peak. You are doing something wrong and should probably stop talking about something you know nothing about.
 
pindleskin said:
Which CPU is that? Is it a dedicated machine?

I have 8 core amd FX-8120 (no overclocking as i am having fans on silent mode, i am sleeping in same room). I am having 6 instances and the CPU is at 50-70%. I use this machine as my own. I have modified d3 prefs. You think i could run up to 10 ? Right now i believe 8 is max if i calculated right, and even that i would probably need to kill 2 instances if i wanna play other game.
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8350, not dedicated. Of course, with 12 instances on, you can't use it. So it becomes a dedicated PC. I meant it is possible, cuz i was wondering about that and ended up trying it out.
 
My 3930K at 4.5Ghz could only run 12 bots, as long as you go over 2 bots per core on any core the whole thing gets stuck. CPU usage was below 75% if I remember well.
I use ISBoxer. I didn't try messing with the prefs file, maybe that might help, but I have my doubts. Maybe it was because of an unstable overclock... I don't know.
Either way, I only run 9 bots nowadays so that's all the information I can provide.
 
Max1m said:
My 3930K at 4.5Ghz could only run 12 bots, as long as you go over 2 bots per core on any core the whole thing gets stuck. CPU usage was below 75% if I remember well.
I use ISBoxer. I didn't try messing with the prefs file, maybe that might help, but I have my doubts. Maybe it was because of an unstable overclock... I don't know.
Either way, I only run 9 bots nowadays so that's all the information I can provide.
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did u try to set TPS modification (in Advanced tab of giles trinity plugin) to 5 or 6 ?
 
cowboyx said:
LOL you must be crazy or have absolutely no idea about wtf you are talking about..

I have an i5 3570 k. No extra programs like isboxer. I run 10 bots easily at 60% peak. You are doing something wrong and should probably stop talking about something you know nothing about.
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Then you are either running:

1) Nightmare/Hell
2) 5 or less tps
3) 12 or less fps

Those are not decent settings btw.

I can run like 20-25 with those settings on my 3770k ... thats not what my post says.
 
trungnp said:
did u try to set TPS modification (in Advanced tab of giles trinity plugin) to 5 or 6 ?
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I believe I tried with many different TPS (6 was probably the lowest I tried) and it didn't help at all, as soon as any core had 3 bots on it the same thing happened.
 
cowboyx said:
LOL you must be crazy or have absolutely no idea about wtf you are talking about..

I have an i5 3570 k. No extra programs like isboxer. I run 10 bots easily at 60% peak. You are doing something wrong and should probably stop talking about something you know nothing about.
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bla bla...
 
Yes your ram is enough, your cpu isn't going to be able to handle it tho.
Also, i doubt youll be able to do anything else even if you can get 20 bots.
 
Post what your build costs including case and heatsink etc if you dont mind. I'm curious.
 
Running a 3770k @ 4.7.
No problem running 15-16 bots. Haven't tried more bots.
Can't really play anything else then tho and I wouldn't have it run like that 24/7.
 
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dottzor said:
Running a 3770k @ 4.7.
No problem running 15-16 bots. Haven't tried more bots.
Can't really play anything else then tho and I wouldn't have it run like that 24/7.
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I'll have to ask for pictures to prove this. Else I call bullshit, at least if you are itemfarming and use settings that won't castrate your performance.
 
i7 920 9-10 bots not boosted 12 if boosted (but ram is bottlneck in most of old mb)
 
With a good overclock and nice cooling you will be able to hit 20 :)
 
bizzy1one said:
Then you are either running:

1) Nightmare/Hell
2) 5 or less tps
3) 12 or less fps

Those are not decent settings btw.

I can run like 20-25 with those settings on my 3770k ... thats not what my post says.
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1. inferno act 3 mp 1
2. 7 tps
3. 15 fps

Don't speak without facts. Pulling facts out of your ass is not a legitible source/proof.
 
Dbuddy said:
bla bla...
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Overclock is the key, and tweaking your computer and d3 prefs to the max. But I guess you don't even understand 30% of the words that I wrote.

You : " uhmm, what is overlock? is that a thing over a clock? fcking bs, blabla ok I write blabla its only thing I know ggnxtbyesx.eaadsaahwoaeaw dnasldwoiwe "
 
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