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16 Accounts PERMA BANNED, - GG Blizzard

You have anything to back that out jim ? cause the last i saw the bot uses click to move and at least some form of hook on directx in order to execute stuff inside wow thread.. If im wrong , im sure one of the devs can correct me
 
Honestly, the most likely way they hit you had to do with the fact that you were only using 2 machines. They only needed to get a report on 1 on each machine and the whole group is located.

Ok, so you were using proxies - but again, 8 accounts on the same machine. We know that Blizz can tell what machine I'm on... behind my single public IP I have 3 machines on a wireless modem (one that I primarily use, one for my wife and one for our oldest son). If I switch from my computer to one of the other two and attempt to login to my account, I get asked for my authenticator - every time. I only get asked on my machine every 2 weeks or so, if that. So, they are doing more than just detecting the machine IP for authentication... (I know... duh!) If they detect more for authentication, then if they find one account running on a machine, how hard would it be for them to realize that there are 7 more running on the same MAC/Hardware configuration?

Come on... Blizz may not be actively pursuing us (I think if they actually actively pursued us, there is enough behavioral consistencies that they could... but they don't want to otherwise they would lose tens of thousands of accounts) - but once they get reports, they have to investigate to continue the illusion that they really want to eliminate botters. 16 accounts on 2 machines is just too easy to find once they get any kind of report on 1 or 2 of them.

I'm not flaming anyone... I'm just saying that I don't see the mystery here.

Hope you get most of them back OP.
 
Why are some people losing accounts so easily then? And some arent? I'm sure there are a lot of people multi botting for selling gold that are still never caught?
 
LoL...
ur the only person on the forum reporting a "ban hammer" at that current time xD...
"BAN WAVE!!" u make me laugh, and hawkie don't like laughing! -_-'
 
its not about knowing how to play LOL. Its about knowing how to stay under the radar. Some people bot 24/7 and still dont get caught. I get caught with one 12 hour shift of botting so.
 
Hawkiz said:
LoL...
ur the only person on the forum reporting a "ban hammer" at that current time xD...
"BAN WAVE!!" u make me laugh, and hawkie don't like laughing! -_-'
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Well dude when you have 16 wow accounts running and all 16 of them get banned , its pretty much a banwave for me, maybe its not been detected but its still a wave of bans heading my way , CTFO
 
Here's the deal people that lost their account its their fault 100%, as every mod on these forums will tell you don't bot what you aren't willing to lose. Coming to these forums crying you lost 16 accounts will get you nowhere, coming here and asking how you could get them back, you would have been more likely to get more help.

I've been using this bot for 3 years, almost everyday, never got suspended once. So explain why if its detected, why I haven't been banned, and yes my account has been involved in gold trading.
 
bmertler said:
Here's the deal people that lost their account its their fault 100%, as every mod on these forums will tell you don't bot what you aren't willing to lose. Coming to these forums crying you lost 16 accounts will get you nowhere, coming here and asking how you could get them back, you would have been more likely to get more help.
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your missing the whole point of the post then. Hes not upset that he lost accounts. Its a given your going to lose accounts especially with farming and selling gold. Hes upset because he lost every single one at the same time. If your missing that point you shouldnt be responding. People post these because they want to figure out why they are losing every single account at the same time and how they can prevent that. Losing one every once in a while is alright W/e But 16 accounts. You would be pree pissed too so stfu hypocrit or gtfo
 
LOL ^ people dont bot 16 accounts for fun. They do it to sell gold and make money. You cant "PLAY IN MODERATION " If your farming. Newb LOL
 
Oh look, you called me a "newb" I guess that means you proved your point.


The more you bot the higher your chances are to get caught and banned. It's simple statistics but you're a child so I'm done here. LOL get mad.
 
bmertler said:
Here's the deal people that lost their account its their fault 100%, as every mod on these forums will tell you don't bot what you aren't willing to lose. Coming to these forums crying you lost 16 accounts will get you nowhere, coming here and asking how you could get them back, you would have been more likely to get more help.

I've been using this bot for 3 years, almost everyday, never got suspended once. So explain why if its detected, why I haven't been banned, and yes my account has been involved in gold trading.
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Buddy i am not crying the accounts mean nothing really i was simply reporting the fact i got banned on 16 accounts at the same time, I dont care about any of the accounts and i can easily start up again i have 4 of them on a 72 hour suspension now, the rest well i will just remake more accounts it doesnt bother me really , it just seemed strange they caught me even when i was laying low , no auctions, and not farming much .. , really you need to just chill out if i get banned tomorrowi will make another post stating the fact i got banned, nobody is whining here but you.
 
What about their stipulation that if you're going to run WoW at a netcafe or something like that you need a special license? I don't know what that license requires, or what number of WoW accounts, but maybe X number of accounts triggers something that way & then if no license found = 3rd party programs. idk, just an thought about an issue that never seems to come up even though its in the ToS.
 
You say multiple IPs, then you say you only have 2 computers

So if each computer has an IP assigned, do you have separate links to the internet for each computer? or do they perhaps go via the exact same router that will NAT your connections behind the SINGLE ip address provided by your ISP.

So we establish that you did most likely have 16 wow sessions coming from the same internet IP address, but then you could say well hang on.. i was using this proxy software, what the hell is the point.. you'll just have 16 accounts appearing to come from the same proxy IP address, if its commonly used proxy then blizzard would likely flag that as even more suspicious. This is even before you start considering that they might have another identifying feature of the machine as a point of reference, like the MAC address of the NIC, system ID from the bios, or even a unique client ID that they generate and store in a file on the machine just like an internet cookie (or like the crap in C:\Users\All Users\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net)

All of the above points to someone coming here and screaming banwave because they are totally clueless to the possibilities that exist, I'm sorry that you lost 16 accounts but you have clearly jumped to the first conclusion either without thought or without intelligence, your efforts to protect yourself sound grossly misinformed and ineffective and so we come back to the fact that you had 16 accounts online simoultaniously for 10hrs a day, likely racking up reports from real users and the fact that you were botting becomes pretty much obvious to whichever GM looked into them
 
Zeewolf said:
You say multiple IPs, then you say you only have 2 computers

So if each computer has an IP assigned, do you have separate links to the internet for each computer? or do they perhaps go via the exact same router that will NAT your connections behind the SINGLE ip address provided by your ISP.

So we establish that you did most likely have 16 wow sessions coming from the same internet IP address, but then you could say well hang on.. i was using this proxy software, what the hell is the point.. you'll just have 16 accounts appearing to come from the same proxy IP address, if its commonly used proxy then blizzard would likely flag that as even more suspicious. This is even before you start considering that they might have another identifying feature of the machine as a point of reference, like the MAC address of the NIC, system ID from the bios, or even a unique client ID that they generate and store in a file on the machine just like an internet cookie (or like the crap in C:\Users\All Users\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net)

All of the above points to someone coming here and screaming banwave because they are totally clueless to the possibilities that exist, I'm sorry that you lost 16 accounts but you have clearly jumped to the first conclusion either without thought or without intelligence, your efforts to protect yourself sound grossly misinformed and ineffective and so we come back to the fact that you had 16 accounts online simoultaniously for 10hrs a day, likely racking up reports from real users and the fact that you were botting becomes pretty much obvious to whichever GM looked into them
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You don't need separate lines from your ISP to have multiple IP's from a single modem. I doubt this guy had 16 IP's but... He could have had a subscription to a proxy service, and had 16 VM's, all of which would appear to be from a different location.
 
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