10/10 eu right now
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Our users online figure would have fallen dramatically if there was a software detection. What we are seeing is that Blizzard is being more aggressive in banning farmers.
hawker but some are getting banned after a few hours of botting ..how is that possible if db not detected
maybe they detect all but also need to check manually something and don't have enough manpower to check/ban every bot . just a thought
maybe they detect all but also need to check manually something and don't have enough manpower to check/ban every bot . just a thought
Well, Blizz is banning mostly people with 6+ bots, take a quick look at the ban forum and you'll realise it. It doesn't mean they don't detect DB, just that they don't wanna scare the hell out of the minor users, that I guess are a big majority of the botting accounts. It could also be relogger related, since people with several bots is far more likely to use a relogger than, let's say, someone with 1-2 bots.
I know I would be hugely grateful if Developers finally gave us, or sell us, for that matter, a working and official relogger.Or work together with the Yar plugin author to make it better. 6+ months after the bot has been running, is about time
You simply don`t, easy as that.
But there are people like gnome, or myself doing 24/7 and surviving all banwaves till now.
The term "Detected" on this forums means = All users get banned, most of them immediately. This is not the case so the bot simply is not detected.
Also please keep in mind a lot of liers and attention wh*res on this forum. Not every ban report is accurate / true. Many people also lie to thin out competition.
More scared botters on this forum = more profit to be made by people with balls and money to back up their operation without fear of loosing a few accounts.
It`s the Internet.
Dont trust anyone or anything than yourself or until you have seen something with your own eyes. If you cant take loosing accounts don't bot and better look for a better job.
In the end doesn`t matter if the bot is "detected" or not. You either know the risks and calculate how much you need to invest to break even / be successful or you don`t.
As soon as you press the Start button you have to live with that you are already banned, just a matter of time.
So please guys stop whining and don't start another useless "Is Buddysoftware detected" thread or post, because the truth is, noone cares if you got banned.
I am personally very happy with the support and though the develppers putting in this product and you should too. If you dont trust them anymore go look for another company / software who takes as much care about their users and offers same features / functionality.
You won't find any.
How many bots do you have? There is a big difference between banning someone with 27 accs like clown, 9 accs like me, 3X acounts like mongo, and banning someone with 1-2 accounts.
It is a matter of low priority vs high priority targets.
Put yourself in blizzard shoes; would you rather ban someone with 1 or 2 accounts, that you know for a fact is botting, or wait for that user to think he is safe, his tinfoil hat is better than the rest and he is the mastermind of the internet, buy more accounts and start using more bots and banning them all at once?
Btw, I recall gnome being hit by the Big ban of december, not sure though.
Other than that, I agree with your post.
Edit: Remember the huge banwave of december? The week before that, 11/12 of December aproximately , there were smaller banwaves like the ones today and yesterday. I really hope I'm wrong, but it would make sense to see a major banwave hitting these coming days, blizzard usually repeat patterns. We will see.
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It doesn't change anything for you if that's how they do it in D3 now. That's what I meant. And also there is nothing we can do about it. So why bother if they ban in chunks if you can't prove that's how they do it now? And it doesn't change the outcome of "getting banned" at all besides random time delay until it happens.
I agree in some points, I do run 2 bots, and yes I agree that Blizzard might prioritize banning targets IF they do it manually.
But doing manual bans and prioritizing targets also means the software is not "detected" in the classical sense many people on here use the word for. Because automatic detection doesn't really care if you have 1 or 100 bots, if you get detected you get banned, simple and efficient. Why use human ressources and spend additional money if automatic bans are just so much more efficient and cost nothing. That's just another argument for me why DB is not detected.
At the end of the day we can talk about pattern recognition and algorhythms all day and make nice tinfoil hats for ourself and our fellow botters but fact is the only people who have extensive knowledge in working against Blizzard detection mechanisms are the Devs and if they say they didnt find anything unusual or new between client / server communication I trust them. I bought the product for its functionality and not for a sense of false security Bossland never gave its users in my opinion. So it is hard for me to understand why people whine and post they are banned at all. I understand the ban section exists purely to satisfy the customers need to get a bit of attention and others saying they are sorry for their loss so the customer isn't utterly destroyed by its loss and has no place to get some "I am so sorry for you".
What is true is that Blizzard stepped up their game being a major pain in the ass for botters / demonbuddy users lately. So it gives a few options for opportunity. I see it really simple:
a) You try to bot an as big as cost effective setup as possible for as long as you at least break even every banwave
b) You just accept that Diablo 3 is currently not worth to bot in big setups since the only constant currency that has a steady value is Gold (0.25? /1k) and every Item you find is purely based on luck ( You can get 5x200? Items / day or just nothing for a week straight)
c) You stop being greedy / try to make a living from it and scale down your operation to the point you are happy with the outcome and the risk to get banned. I have no problem replacing 1-2 accounts every 8 weeks. I would have a problem if I had to replace 100.
I am personally going for c) at the moment. My 2 bots rake in around 400? a month and some Items to enhance my main char I stream and earn money with. It's not replacing my real job. But I am fine and the extra money is very welcome to make holidays from each year and donate 50% to a charity of my choice. But you would never see me blame the devs or create huge threads full of nonsense information on here.
I am pretty much sure there is a big banwave coming anytime soon, but so is probably the end of the world. *irony off*
We just know what we know, and that is not much.
I am as sorry for everyone who lost even one account or one hundred, but we all "should" know that we do here.
Just my two cents.
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I don't think of it as greediness. For me , it's a personal behaviour. I actually enjoy botting, I've been an avid gamer for long years and right now I'm taking a profit out of it. Also, if you invest your time in getting to know more and more about profiles, plugins, reloggers , bot behaviours, oppinions, etc about the bot, you'd better use it in several bots than in 1-2 of them, just my humble opinnion.
c) is a minimalistic approach. I got invited on a wedding where the food was "minimalistic" and it turned out I was still hungry after desserts. Size does matter.
I would go for a) BUT as long as DB devs don't create or support some kind of relogger, its too much of a risk, so your choice is much safer, I guess.
^this. Truth.
been botting 24/7 , only got hit by ban once.
still alive atm but not sure what would happen.
Single bot. Not that your oppinion is less important than the one from somebody with 20+bots, of course! But Banning approach to small botters is different it seems.