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Why your NPH is not as high as it could be

Gatherit

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Here I will explain for the new comers why your not getting as many Nodes Per Hour as me or the other guy. I will lay this out in a simple list format.

1. Your not in a guild with fast mount speed and bountiful bags perk. Doesnt help with NPH but does allow you to collect more items from the nodes.

2. Your still using 280 flying. Get with the times and pay the gold. If I see people complaining their NPH suck on a profile and they have the balls to say they still use 280 flying then the joke is on them.

3. Your not a Tauren Druid with .05 pick speed. Tauren druids have almost triple the herb picking speed as any other race in the game. They also do not have to dismount to gather herbs and also have instant mount speed.

4. Your not using the Mist Piercing Goggles that allow you to see roughly 10% more NPH when gathering herbs in Pandaria. I still see people not using these.

5. You only have one gathering profession and you still wonder why your NPH is only half of the guy who posted above you. This makes me laugh too :)

6. Your using "loot mobs" in GB settings. This isn't huge but when you combine it all together it cuts time off your NPH and makes the bot pause more.

7. Your still using cheap netherweave bags. More trips to the mailbox mean less NPH. Use the largest bags possible and leave your alt gear and toys in the bank. ( thanks vdv for this one :) )

8. Gear up your toon with the best possible craftable gear. The better gear you have the faster you kill mobs and the less time it takes to fight. (thanks kavlantis)

So above I have listed several ways to boost your NPH and I am sure others will come up with more. Before you hack the profile creator to shreds, take a look at your own setup first and make sure your doing everything you can to maximize your NPH.
 
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Nice one, Gatherit, and thank you!

I read through a lot of posts, so I'll toss this...

There is some evidence that "too high" of a NPH can result in a auto-ban from new WoWserver-side detection code.​

Although there is no way to absolutely know this happens, recent evidence indicates it is happening to some (even non-botters). So, boost your NPH with caution.

cheers,
chinajade
 
chinajade said:
Nice one, Gatherit, and thank you!

I read through a lot of posts, so I'll toss this...
There is some evidence that "too high" of a NPH can result in a auto-ban from new WoWserver-side detection code.​

Although there is no way to absolutely know this happens, recent evidence indicates it is happening to some (even non-botters). So, boost your NPH with caution.

cheers,
chinajade
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sounds weird, im sure theres non botters that get higher nph than any of the bots,with own path and no stucks?
edit: I see you wrote it, but must be something else. What was the ban reason?
 
soulravager said:
sounds weird, im sure theres non botters that get higher nph than any of the bots,with own path and no stucks?
edit: I see you wrote it, but must be something else. What was the ban reason?
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Sadly, I do not recall. Only certain facts stick in my head unless I write them down, and I didn't think to note the reason.

sorry,
chinajade
 
I think the only people who have to worry about this type of thing are people using no clip hacks like WoWPlus where they have no clip, airwalk, hover and teleport to node features. This is the only way to really go beyond reality of a legit NPH. And def not safe.
 
Exception of items and not being a tauren (not paying for stupid change. plus my tauren Druid already has 600 blacksmith and ins. so not undoing those either. [yeah it was dumb but it's done])
I still am averaging 86~90 nph. compred to the insane 260 nph or above i was doing before the 5.1, this seems low even comparing to recent posters going 150~200 nph.
I know I dont have any of the items or am a tauren, but I think I may still be doing soemthing wrong
Is there something I'm missing out on? I'm using Pandaria Route C that everyone seems to be 100+ nph on, and not breaking the 100 nph line.

Seems weird to me.
 
Doesn't bountiful bags just increase the number of items per node? Doesn't increase the NPH as far as I know.
Anyway, nice post - I will def. link to this every now and then.
 
also, make sure that your farmer toon is talented in their class for whatever speed boost comes with it druid have one in first tier, pallys too, dks in 3rd tier, etc...


and yes, bountiful bags doesnt increase your nph, but it does increase your overall haul of goods.

also, druids should be using the Druid Gather Helper pluginto keep from leaving flight form when attacked at a node.


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if your farmer's class doesnt have a speedboost, you shouldnt be farming with that guy.
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changed link to first file in the thread... i tried 2nd file and it didnt avoid combat
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That plugin may not work for some people. I get alot of people telling me ti wont work for them.
 
Another easy way is to make sure you have the largest bags feasible so you do not have to travel to the mailbox as often. Also remove any items not required for gathering to increase bag space.
 
Skagnsdl said:
Exception of items and not being a tauren (not paying for stupid change. plus my tauren Druid already has 600 blacksmith and ins. so not undoing those either. [yeah it was dumb but it's done])
I still am averaging 86~90 nph. compred to the insane 260 nph or above i was doing before the 5.1, this seems low even comparing to recent posters going 150~200 nph.
I know I dont have any of the items or am a tauren, but I think I may still be doing soemthing wrong
Is there something I'm missing out on? I'm using Pandaria Route C that everyone seems to be 100+ nph on, and not breaking the 100 nph line.

Seems weird to me.
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I am using that and getting minimum 170nph


here is my log after a restart of the bot

[Gatherbuddy2]: Gatherbuddy has been running for 0h 17m 50s. Collected a total of 52 nodes.
[Gatherbuddy2]: Ghost Iron Deposit: 21
[Gatherbuddy2]: Snow Lily: 25
[Gatherbuddy2]: Rich Ghost Iron Deposit: 2
[Gatherbuddy2]: Trillium Vein: 3
[Gatherbuddy2]: Green Tea Leaf: 1


And is not even a druid or a paladin/dk, its a shaman with 310% mount and lvl 25 guild

My druids are pulling more than him.

This is a tauren druid

[Gatherbuddy2]: Gatherbuddy has been running for 0h 9m 22s. Collected a total of 35 nodes.
[Gatherbuddy2]: Silkweed: 3
[Gatherbuddy2]: Green Tea Leaf: 18
[Gatherbuddy2]: Ghost Iron Deposit: 14

Druid Troll

[Gatherbuddy2]: Gatherbuddy has been running for 0h 22m 33s. Collected a total of 65 nodes.
[Gatherbuddy2]: Green Tea Leaf: 22
[Gatherbuddy2]: Ghost Iron Deposit: 23
[Gatherbuddy2]: Fool's Cap: 4
[Gatherbuddy2]: Rich Ghost Iron Deposit: 3
[Gatherbuddy2]: Silkweed: 11
[Gatherbuddy2]: Rain Poppy: 2


You can see the tauren druid is pulling somewhat faster nph.
 
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Also make sure if your using a DK to use Unholy for the extra 15% speed.
Regular Singular always puts you into Blood, Frost, Unholy depending on your spec...BUT here is a handy-dandy fix if your blood spec.

Just overwrite the common.cs file inside ClassSpecific/Deathknight/ with the attached file and it will use unholy presence unless in combat.
Easy enough to change for Frost yourself if that's how you roll but i prefer Blood when grinding/farming.
 

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China is correct... boost nodes per hour with caution... the back side check is on pure NPH and node to kill ratio's there has been suspicion of this for ALONG time and experienced botters know that there is some thresholds built in... though i am not sure as to if anyone has done the research to know what they are.

Its very hard to do that type of research since blizzard keeps "ban lists" and they don't ban everyone on the list in each ban batch that they ban. So without running the same profile consistently on separate rigs over many months you are kinda at a loss to figure out.

But personaly after a number of years of being a gold farmer. I have limits on alot of things that I can prove increase my time per account before ban.
 
Reviir said:
the back side check is on pure NPH and node to kill ratio's
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This is pure speculation just like everything else is that is talked about as far as banning goes. Until someone from the inside says this is true, it is just pure speculation. I have been botting for years and getting max NPH and never get banned for it. Please stay on topic or dont reply here.
 
I'm thinking of getting those Forager's Gloves on my druids, but in theory it could take a long time and during that time my druids could be farming instead.

So I'm just wondering if it's worth farming then and for how long I would need to farm after getting them, to make up for the loss while I was camping.

Seems to me that it's not worth it unless your accounts will be botting for month(s). In theory, let's say it would take you 10 hours of farming to get the gloves. That's 2500 nodes if you are having 250 NPH. How many NPH would the gloves give me as a bonus?

Even if it turns out to be worth it - which it is, over a longer time-span - should I go ahead and do it, despite having 2 profiles that grants me between 230-260 NPH?
 
Dotfix said:
I'm thinking of getting those Forager's Gloves on my druids, but in theory it could take a long time and during that time my druids could be farming instead.

So I'm just wondering if it's worth farming then and for how long I would need to farm after getting them, to make up for the loss while I was camping.

Seems to me that it's not worth it unless your accounts will be botting for month(s). In theory, let's say it would take you 10 hours of farming to get the gloves. That's 2500 nodes if you are having 250 NPH. How many NPH would the gloves give me as a bonus?

Even if it turns out to be worth it - which it is, over a longer time-span - should I go ahead and do it, despite having 2 profiles that grants me between 230-260 NPH?
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This item won't increase gather time for druids for herbs, 0.5 sec seems to be the cap for gathering. Will only improve mining speed.
I personally think it's not worth it to get these gloves, too much time needs to be invested.
 
reverence said:
This item won't increase gather time for druids for herbs, 0.5 sec seems to be the cap for gathering. Will only improve mining speed.
I personally think it's not worth it to get these gloves, too much time needs to be invested.
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True and agreed.
The glove does not modify tauren herb speed. It has been confirmed. You can read about it on wowhead.com also.
It does how ever improves mining.
 
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