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[REQUEST] Meshes for Lich King Instances / API for Dungeon Finder

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Snake0391

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As the title says, I would like a request for the Dungeon Finder API so that it will auto que for random dungeons and have an option to choose heroic or normal.

Also need meshes for all the Lich King Instances, so that botting in them is possible.

Thanks in advance.
 
It has been stated by devs that this is an awful idea, and I would agree. As a botter, I think part of your survivability is to stay away from people, so you aren't noticed. To put yourself in a situation where 4 people are in such close proximity to you is just asking for trouble. The bot, profile, CC, and mesh would have to all be flawless for this to work, and I think you are looking at this being maybe 6-9 months away from now. I know people say what I'm about to say as negative, but if this is something you are truly looking to do, you really should dig into creating a profile. Hell, make one for an old instance for practice (so you aren't in danger of dying) and work your way up from there. Quite simply, what you are asking for, sort of as an off-the-cuff request, would take months of someone's time to create, and it'd all have to work well with the other components of the bot. Take up your own call, because if not, I highly doubt you'll see this sort of thing anytime soon.
 
Sounds like an awsome way to get banned. If you want something to make instancing easier id recommend autoassist!
 
dottzor said:
Not if u have your own 5man team .... wink wink.
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if you had your own 5man team, you would have to custom code the instances, because in all of them theres no way to deal with a boss fight. all of them have some kind of special mechanic that you need to deal with manually. i cant think of any instance youll be able to do automaticly, the only exception is Violate Hold, where you might be able to get away with having the pull distance set too 1000, and letting it go. but even then, the first boss fight you would be screwed.
 
CodenameG said:
if you had your own 5man team, you would have to custom code the instances, because in all of them theres no way to deal with a boss fight. all of them have some kind of special mechanic that you need to deal with manually. i cant think of any instance youll be able to do automaticly, the only exception is Violate Hold, where you might be able to get away with having the pull distance set too 1000, and letting it go. but even then, the first boss fight you would be screwed.
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You are very wrong here.
There are virtually no instance nor boss that can't be bruteforced (ocy of c as a exception).
I have already done hundreds of runs with 3 bots and myself just controlling the movement of the tank.
Sure in the start things like FoS demanded that I babysat the healer but now the healer is a t10.5 druid and can just plainly outheal anything using the good old GotWood.


(Of course it helps that my tank is a BiS geared pally that more or less can solo any HC boss, but anyway)


Edit: Jesus, it was a LONG time ago you actually did any moving and stuff in HC's. Even with just emblems gear you can just tank and spank more or less any HC boss.
 
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Sure some instances wont be doable (occy, ToC, maybe not the last phase of HoR) but hell, I am bored as f*** and I wanna see how many instances that can be done.
 
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dottzor said:
Sure some instances wont be doable (occy, ToC, maybe not the last phase of HoR) but hell, I am bored as f*** and I wanna see how many instances that can be done.
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Utgarde Pinnacle - Needs to pick up harpoons
Azjol-Nerub - Youll Never get it to go down the hole after the 2nd boss.
Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom - bots wont kill shadow copys,
Drak'Tharon Keep - Cant activate the alters
The Violet Hold - Cant hit the switches to down the water boss.
Gundrak - LastBoss - CC wont know what to do in skeleton form.
Halls of Stone - cant get to last boss.
Halls of Lightning - do able, if the profile is made correctly and toons are geared enough
The Oculus - impossible of course
Caverns of Time: Culling of Stratholme - wont run timed events. cant talk to arthas when needed to advance
Utgarde Keep - do able if geared correctly
The Nexus - wont get it to fall down the hole after tree boss, but doable if it back tracks. - Lastboss lots of dps needed to take down the dragon before the debuff takes your toons down.



so almost all of them have to have some kind of plugin or CC code for them to be done automatically. without user input.
 
What about just getting it to farm lower level instances?
 
it would be amazing if someone set somthing up as to run strat to farm the death charger reins over and over... would probebly need a plugin to reset dungeon though
 
I'll think about a way to bring this idea to fruition. There are a number of ways this can be handled. Easiest of which is just to have separate 'encounter' logic for each boss (or entire instances).

Obviously, tank n spank instances are pretty much supported out of the box. (Grind mode!)
 
Pinnacle and AN is np,
OK - I have never had any problem with the shadow copies (sure DPS and healer dies but tanks eventually kill him), but the problem is the Orbs.

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I am not looking for something totally automated, just something that will run in the background while I work.
 
CodenameG said:
Utgarde Pinnacle - Needs to pick up harpoons
Azjol-Nerub - Youll Never get it to go down the hole after the 2nd boss.
Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom - bots wont kill shadow copys,
Drak'Tharon Keep - Cant activate the alters
The Violet Hold - Cant hit the switches to down the water boss.
Gundrak - LastBoss - CC wont know what to do in skeleton form.
Halls of Stone - cant get to last boss.
Halls of Lightning - do able, if the profile is made correctly and toons are geared enough
The Oculus - impossible of course
Caverns of Time: Culling of Stratholme - wont run timed events. cant talk to arthas when needed to advance
Utgarde Keep - do able if geared correctly
The Nexus - wont get it to fall down the hole after tree boss, but doable if it back tracks. - Lastboss lots of dps needed to take down the dragon before the debuff takes your toons down.



so almost all of them have to have some kind of plugin or CC code for them to be done automatically. without user input.
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I have done all the instances by hand and I know how they work, most are fully capable of botting except for a few.
Azjol-Nerub: I know this already, so you could code it to skip that dungeon and wait it out.
Gundrak: skeletal form functions the same way so won't matter.
The Oculus: agree.
Halls of Stone: why?
Caverns of Time: so why can't you code it to interact with arthas if it gets near him, I don't see a problem here.
Trials of the Champion: code it so it will interact and equip an argent lance and interact with horse and have its own combat code for it.

I have the code for it already and tested it in Ulduar and works great, but I just need the meshes for the rest of the lich king instances.
why is everyone so negative? I know I can get this to work and it doesnt look like a bot, I have tested it and the only thing that is stopping me is the lack of support.
 
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Apoc said:
I'll think about a way to bring this idea to fruition. There are a number of ways this can be handled. Easiest of which is just to have separate 'encounter' logic for each boss (or entire instances).

Obviously, tank n spank instances are pretty much supported out of the box. (Grind mode!)
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It seems like for the best results, it would need some way to hook into the CCs. Like, if it's a boss or trash pull with a fear, you'd want to have the class use whatever fear mitigation it has (like have a shaman keep a tremor totem down, or a priest fear ward the tank). Or if it's a self-healing boss that can be interrupted, have the CC call whatever interrupt the class has available. I guess the CC authors would have to include a set of standardized functions that would be called by the plugin (or core eventually), but that would definitely make the bot a lot smarter...

Then again, even if the plugin makes it not stand in fire/void zones/etc, it would still be smarter than a lot of people I've grouped with.
 
Snake0391 said:
I have done all the instances by hand and I know how they work, most are fully capable of botting except for a few.
Azjol-Nerub: I know this already, so you could code it to skip that dungeon and wait it out.
Gundrak: skeletal form functions the same way so won't matter.
The Oculus: agree.
Halls of Stone: why?
Caverns of Time: so why can't you code it to interact with arthas if it gets near him, I don't see a problem here.
Trials of the Champion: code it so it will interact and equip an argent lance and interact with horse and have its own combat code for it.

I have the code for it already and tested it in Ulduar and works great, but I just need the meshes for the rest of the lich king instances.
why is everyone so negative? I know I can get this to work and it doesnt look like a bot, I have tested it and the only thing that is stopping me is the lack of support.
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like i said, im fine if your running a 5man team by your self, im not fine with is having people go and do a random with just one toon while they take shower. and again all the instances would have to have plugins to deal with them, its not going to support wrath instances out of the box fully unattended without you doing certain things.
 
Um, I want to just ask, what skeletal form are you guys talking about in Gundrak? The thing in Gundrak is clicking the altars to activate the last boss.

DTK is the skeletal form instance. Just trying to help :)
 
tvsian said:
It seems like for the best results, it would need some way to hook into the CCs. Like, if it's a boss or trash pull with a fear, you'd want to have the class use whatever fear mitigation it has (like have a shaman keep a tremor totem down, or a priest fear ward the tank). Or if it's a self-healing boss that can be interrupted, have the CC call whatever interrupt the class has available. I guess the CC authors would have to include a set of standardized functions that would be called by the plugin (or core eventually), but that would definitely make the bot a lot smarter...

Then again, even if the plugin makes it not stand in fire/void zones/etc, it would still be smarter than a lot of people I've grouped with.
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That's the easy part. The hardest part will be getting HB to properly DO the instances. (Lots of profiles will be needed, and probably some custom ones.)
 
Lt.Leon said:
So.. Your saying theres a chance?! :D
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No one ever said it was impossible. I personally said that it would take tons of time, and since most people who use HB would just throw the bot into an instance, and go take a nap... it's going to get you banned. Hell, it might even lead to catching Blizzard's eye, if people are getting reported left and right for botting instances. You need the logic in the CC to not only react to certain boss mechanics, but the profiles have to be written to interact with objects, move certain places, etc. The automated "I'm gonna set this up to random queue for heroics, and go out" part already falls over since HB can't handle loading screens/transitions without freaking out and closing WOW, or otherwise crashing.

This will take a TON of collective effort, that's what most of you just aren't understanding. Just because conceptually it sounds easy, doesn't mean it is, and likely means it's not. With HB's current issues, I'd hate to see any developers spending time on this that could be better spent polishing the bot.
 
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