Bulding a computer, best bang for the buck!

[keynell]

I was thinking of building a computer. Budget is between 1000-3000 euro.

I was thinking of something that gives the best bang for the buck. I dont need the 10/10 most super best graphic card and is 2x more expensive than the next best thing. And so on with the other parts.

I would also like to have some type of cooling system,preferably water cooling. Dunno if this really help in keeping the computer cool?

Right now im running using a laptop, ASUS G74SX ,Intel Core i7 (2. generasjon) 2630QM / 2 GHz,ram 8 gig DDR3 SDRAM 1333 MHz,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - 3 GB GDDR5 SDRAM. I bought this a year ago. Was just game with it before but now im using it for boting.

Im currently using 2x d3 on it + a wow bot. Runs fine,no lags. Just really damn hot computer. Dunno if this is dangerous? Anyways, I wanted to build a REAL botting computer that will not get ultra warm and can handle the torture of 24/7 botting for years.

Update 07.okt.12 on what im going to buy.

CPU - Intel? Core i5-3570K Processor Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.4Ghz, 6MB, Boxed w/fan

Graphic card - EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA PCI-Express 3.0, "ForTheWin", GDDR5, DVI-D+DVI-I, native-HDMI, DisplayPort

Motherboard - Which motherboard do I use? What should I look for besides it being a z77 and what brand?

Ram - Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1600MHz 32GB KIT Kit w/8X HyperX 4GB DDR3, CL9-9-9-27, 240pin

Harddisk - Corsair SSD Force Series 3, 240GB 2.5" SATA 6 Gb/s (SATA3.0), 550MB/520MB/s read/write, SandForce? SF-2281, w/bracket

Cooling systems - Corsair H100 Hydro Series CPU cooler Socket 775/1155/1156/1366/2011, AM2/AM2+/AM3, 2600 RPM, 46~92 CFM, 22~39 dBA (only for CPU, should i get for GPU and ram or those are useless?)

Tower - Corsair Vengeance C70 Military Green Fans: 1x 200mm Front, 1x Back 120mm, ATX, mATX, 2x USB 3.0 (cheapest and ugliest cosair case)

Power supply - Cooler Master GX 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus, Standard, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 9x SATA, 120mm Fan

 

[PKSays]

does newegg not ship to where you are? you can get much better deals there. I usually newegg/ebay, 1000-3000 euro isn't really "budget" status, that can get you a real beast, if you're doing budget go for AMD but since you're throwing THAT much money on it there's no need.

 

[Diabloguy69]

i5-3570K, 16gb of ram, decent mobo 120-150 and you can run 12 diablo bots easy for the next 5 years

oh and a cheap graphics card does fine 130-150.

 

[keynell]

does newegg not ship to where you are? you can get much better deals there. I usually newegg/ebay, 1000-3000 euro isn't really "budget" status, that can get you a real beast, if you're doing budget go for AMD but since you're throwing THAT much money on it there's no need.

Im not sure, I love in norway. If I do buy from newegg, I will probably be taxed through my ass. I could try I guess. I was thinking of maybe something that can run a decent amount of bots at the same time take on games on the coming years.
And allowing me to do random stuff on it while running all of the bots.

 

[keynell]

i5-3570K, 16gb of ram, decent mobo 120-150 and you can run 12 diablo bots easy for the next 5 years

oh and a cheap graphics card does fine 130-150.

isnt i7 better than i5 ? I was thinking of a computer that will take on the new coming games, at the same time being able to bot multiple of them. Id rather pay 3k euro for a computer that will take on the next 3 years generation of games while running multiple bots,than paying 1k that cant handle the beast games to bot on the coming years.

 

[farmbarian]

System Builder Marathon, August 2012: $1000 Enthusiast PC : Don's $1000 Machine Is Here To Play

use this as basis to know the parts you need then change i5 to i7 3*** non K if you wont overclock - then instead of GTX 670 get an AMD 7850 cause its cheaper and performs well with less power / heat (which is still way better compared to your laptops) then use the extra cash to buy bigger SSDs for your os/diablo and or vmware if you use them

it should be better for botting / gaming and save your laptop some lifespan with having too much heat

use this to select cooler
Roundup: Six Sub-$40 Performance CPU Coolers Compared : Big Cooling At A Small Price

sorry that site you linked is confusing

 

[keynell]

System Builder Marathon, August 2012: $1000 Enthusiast PC : Don's $1000 Machine Is Here To Play

use this as basis to know the parts you need then change i5 to i7 3*** non K if you wont overclock - then instead of GTX 670 get an AMD 7850 cause its cheaper and performs well with less power / heat (which is still way better compared to your laptops) then use the extra cash to buy bigger SSDs for your os/diablo and or vmware if you use them

it should be better for botting / gaming and save your laptop some lifespan with having too much heat

use this to select cooler
Roundup: Six Sub-$40 Performance CPU Coolers Compared : Big Cooling At A Small Price

sorry that site you linked is confusing

The link is in norwegian. But do I need to buy 2x graphic cards? or that is just plane useless?

What about the motherboard? Is water cooling trash?

 

[ajc82388]

The link is in norwegian. But do I need to buy 2x graphic cards? or that is just plane useless?

What about the motherboard? Is water cooling trash?

yes water cooling is trash.
yes you need 4 video cards.

holy crap do you know anything about computers at all? Like even a little tiny bit? Other than you use it to look at pr0nz and play gAmez

 

[mullerhun]

buy a 6core i7 processor, oc it, get big ssd and a fancy videocard, like a geforce 690, or wait till nextgen hits! A watercooling would help to run it cool 24/7! Multiple monitors wouldnt hurt too

I suggest u ask a local geek for tips, maybe from the store u wanna buy it from!

 

[keynell]

yes water cooling is trash.
yes you need 4 video cards.

holy crap do you know anything about computers at all? Like even a little tiny bit? Other than you use it to look at pr0nz and play gAmez

Ive been out of the game for a long time. Dont know jack shit anymore. I like what a motherboard,cpu etc etc is. But not which one is the best or which is not necesarry like the double graphics card etc etc.

 

[keynell]

buy a 6core i7 processor, oc it, get big ssd and a fancy videocard, like a geforce 690, or wait till nextgen hits! A watercooling would help to run it cool 24/7! Multiple monitors wouldnt hurt too

I suggest u ask a local geek for tips, maybe from the store u wanna buy it from!

I could ask them, but they probably dont know how to build boting rigs If it was a gaming pc period,then maybe.

 

[ajc82388]

amd has cheap processors, intel is the "mainstream" choice i guess though.
I have a gtx660ti evga 3gb version, and i ran run 10x diablos and play LoL or another game without much problem.
Liquid cooling is always good, and pretty cheap.
you can get 2 vid cards if you want in crossfire or SLI. Crossfire may be better for 2 cards. If you want one card i'd probably get Nvidia.
Make sure motherboard supports crossfire AND/OR SLI if you want 2 cards.
YOu dont need 2 expensive cards if you want to go that route. YOu can get two mid range cards (150-200$) and run 2 of them.
32 gigs of ram, because ram is cheap.

thats all i can tell you

 

[keynell]

amd has cheap processors, intel is the "mainstream" choice i guess though.
I have a gtx660ti evga 3gb version, and i ran run 10x diablos and play LoL or another game without much problem.
Liquid cooling is always good, and pretty cheap.
you can get 2 vid cards if you want in crossfire or SLI. Crossfire may be better for 2 cards. If you want one card i'd probably get Nvidia.
Make sure motherboard supports crossfire AND/OR SLI if you want 2 cards.
YOu dont need 2 expensive cards if you want to go that route. YOu can get two mid range cards (150-200$) and run 2 of them.
32 gigs of ram, because ram is cheap.

thats all i can tell you

Thanks for the tip,but what amd processors? What is the advantage of crossfire or SLI against a 1 videocard rig?

 

[NerD]

Thanks for the tip,but what amd processors? What is the advantage of crossfire or SLI against a 1 videocard rig?

The advantage is you have 2 graphics cards working together...

 

[ajc82388]

2 cards have an easier time making your graphics and running smoothly than having the load on ONE card.
that is pretty much the advantage of SLI/crossfire for a mid range card.
One video card, you would need to get a top notch 7990 or 7850 from AMD, or gtx 670/680/660ti from Nvidia to do what you want.

as for amd processors, i have the fx8150, seems to run fine with 10 diablos once I overclocked it.
some people like intel better, i've always liked amd processors though, idk. It's just preference really.
If you are getting intel CPU than get a K series, so you can overclock it.

 

[keynell]

2 cards have an easier time making your graphics and running smoothly than having the load on ONE card.
that is pretty much the advantage of SLI/crossfire for a mid range card.
One video card, you would need to get a top notch 7990 or 7850 from AMD, or gtx 670/680/660ti from Nvidia to do what you want.

as for amd processors, i have the fx8150, seems to run fine with 10 diablos once I overclocked it.
some people like intel better, i've always liked amd processors though, idk. It's just preference really.
If you are getting intel CPU than get a K series, so you can overclock it.

What 2x video card would compare to the power of 1 amd 7990 or 7850?

You know anything about what ram is good?

 

[ajc82388]

What 2x video card would compare to the power of 1 amd 7990 or 7850?

You know anything about what ram is good?

corsair ram is good
gskill is good

get ddr3 @ 1600mhz
32 gb of it

 

[markn12]

AMD 8150 can run 15 + OCed to 4.2 without water cooling 5.0 with
Any new Generation I7 will beat an 8150 OCed or not.

If you wanna maximize profits go AMD its cheaper simple as that. If you have a little extra cash to spend and want something that can maybe also bot future games go intel.

Ignore the idiots saying get a 130$ video card these will NOT bot 12-15 anyone who says they can is lying I have a 7850 and 12 D3s with Isboxer it runs at 85% activity and this is a 200-250$ video card my old cards were a 6850 and a GTX 480 neither of them could run 8 or more. I would for sure go 7850 because with the AMD CPU you're only gonna be botting 12-15 unless you OC it anyway IF you plan to OC it spend the extra cash on the 7900 series.

 

[mythe]

Anyone have a suggestion for a good motherboard? I've been looking at the same hexacore i7 but it requires a motherboard that supports the intel x79 chipset and I'm not 100% sure what that means.

 

[keynell]

AMD 8150 can run 15 + OCed to 4.2 without water cooling 5.0 with
Any new Generation I7 will beat an 8150 OCed or not.

If you wanna maximize profits go AMD its cheaper simple as that. If you have a little extra cash to spend and want something that can maybe also bot future games go intel.

Ignore the idiots saying get a 130$ video card these will NOT bot 12-15 anyone who says they can is lying I have a 7850 and 12 D3s with Isboxer it runs at 85% activity and this is a 200-250$ video card my old cards were a 6850 and a GTX 480 neither of them could run 8 or more. I would for sure go 7850 because with the AMD CPU you're only gonna be botting 12-15 unless you OC it anyway IF you plan to OC it spend the extra cash on the 7900 series.

I do have the extra cash, I did want to buy an i7. Buy what is the difference between i7 and those xeon or more expensive processors? I wrote a list on the first page on what ive decided to buy.

But which graphic card should I guy? Should I just take 1x of a 7970 amd? Should I just take the best like this Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz 6GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0, "TOXIC GHz Edition", DL-DVI-I+DL-DVI-D, HDMI, 2xminiDisplayPort ?

Or should I buy a 2x of a 7900 series?

Any ideas on what motherboard I should take?

Can I overclocked the i7 ??

Should i get water cooling for the ram and graphics card? or that is not necesarry?