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Hand Levelled, VM+VP*, Randomized Delays, Champion Farming, <12hr doesn't matter

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Hand Levelled, VM+VP* each, Randomized Delays, Champion Farming, <12hr doesn't matter. Accounts only started botting when Demonbuddy with randomised delays was released on 21.07.2012.

Posted my full detailed ban report in the ban report section for your analysis. Looks like a big waste of $, time and effort on VMs and VP*.

Didn't managed to recoup anything back this time since I'm running Inferno Act 1 Champions public profile instead of Sarkoth :(

DH Tank gear is like 60M gold for each bot :(

Just realized that Teivovo got hit by the same ban as me on the same public profile :(

I would have been better off botting 1-60 and then running Sarkoth 24/7.

EDIT:
Update:
erimin5, Teivovo and mephuser1000 (myself) have botted Inferno Act 1 Champions before getting banned.

Update 06/08:
cityhall89 also banned from botting Inferno Act 1 Champions.

teivovo said:
Erm... bro, just to add... My 2 bots were running on two different machines with different public IPs...
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cityhall89 said:
BTW: I received ban while using Radonic's [A-1 Inferno] Champion-Hunting
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so two people got banned for only champion farming... unless more people pop up saying it, I don't believe it and you must of messed up somehow else. they have absolutely nothing to go by if you only champion farm other than staying on for many hours and doing similar runs that take a lot longer than sark.
 
meph thanks for the info. I do appreciate it and i'm sure others do too. Any ideas on how they linked your accounts?

Did you
- use the same payment info?
- sign up for them on the same day?
- join games together to your main to exchange gear etc?

anything else?

I'm currently running 8 bots in seperate vms isolated (and hiding vmware too). Went to the extremes to keep them unrelated, different gateway MAC addresses, different public IPs, different payment methods/info, never joined each others games, different profiles etc.. i'm trying to avoid a chain ban, i don't mind if one or two get hit.The more info we can get on how they chain ban the better.
 
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lolwatpear said:
so two people got banned for only champion farming... unless more people pop up saying it, I don't believe it and you must of messed up somehow else. they have absolutely nothing to go by if you only champion farm other than staying on for many hours and doing similar runs that take a lot longer than sark.
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Just added erimin5 to the affected list.

I have countless conspiracy theories that belongs to the Mystery Science theater as to why and how Blizzard bans.

Obviously, Blizzard has to make sure that their banning algorithm is both undecipherable even if it is as simple as downloading the bot + public profiles and then hand-ban from it (that's why we don't see hundreds of ban reports). Their aim is to create mass pandemonium and fear and confusion.
 
anonbot said:
meph thanks for the info. I do appreciate it and i'm sure others do too. Any ideas on how they linked your accounts?

Did you
- use the same payment info?
- sign up for them on the same day?
- join games together to your main to exchange gear etc?

anything else?

I'm currently running 8 bots in seperate vms isolated (and hiding vmware too). Went to the extremes to keep them unrelated, different gateway MAC addresses, different public IPs, different payment methods/info, never joined each others games, different profiles etc.. i'm trying to avoid a chain ban, i don't mind if one or two get hit.The more info we can get on how they chain ban the better.
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Did you
- use the same payment info?
Ans: Zero payment info. Physical Boxed copies.

- sign up for them on the same day?
Ans: Different days but within the same week. Each reached Level 60 on different weeks. Had too much time before Demonbuddy came out. These accounts are my final batch of legitimate loner(no public chat/games) hand-levelled accounts :(

- join games together to your main to exchange gear etc?
Ans: Main -> passes gear to Non-botted trade account. Non-botted trade account passes gear to Bot account.
Trade account doesn't come into contact with public players and doesn't sell gold.
Trade account has a Level 10 char that killed Skeleton King.

anything else?
Ans: Vm-hiding with the following:
isolation.tools.getPtrLocation.disable = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.setPtrLocation.disable = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.setVersion.disable = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.getVersion.disable = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_directexec = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_chksimd = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_ntreloc = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_selfmod = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_reloc = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_btinout = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_btmemspace = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_btpriv = "TRUE"
monitor_control.disable_btseg = "TRUE"
monitor_control.restrict_backdoor = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.copy.disable = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.dnd.disable = "TRUE"
isolation.tools.paste.disable = "TRUE"
 
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I declare shenanigans! I've been personally botting champions for over 16 hours per day on 5 accounts, no problems what-so-ever. Note: I paid with pre-paid credit cards to cover my trail, use same computer for all 5.
 
iuser99 said:
I declare shenanigans! I've been personally botting champions for over 16 hours per day on 5 accounts, no problems what-so-ever. Note: I paid with pre-paid credit cards to cover my trail, use same computer for all 5.
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That's the same denial speech and phase that "Sarkoth botters who temporarily escaped the initial bans" gave and went through during June. Eventually they accepted that the cold hard truth by the middle of July when they too were banned.

The fact that the forums/profiles are public means that everytime we make a forum post that Public Profile X always experiences the same "buggy stuck situation Y" at Location Z means that Blizzard will focus their detection on X, Y and Z.

Since we are not even experiencing bans by the hundreds, it's safe to assume that Blizzard doesn't have an effective method of direct mass automated detection yet.
 
Erm... bro, just to add... My 2 bots were running on two different machines with different public IPs...
 
lolwatpear said:
they have absolutely nothing to go by if you only champion farm other than staying on for many hours and doing similar runs that take a lot longer than sark.
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That's a very naive way of thinking. I could write a list of 20-30 things .185 DB + giles plugins + act1 inf champ farming does that looks like a bot. (Am not going to on a public forum as I am not going to do Blizzards work for them)

I bot similarly to meph, so it seems I will get myself banned sooner rather than later. I think for my next round I'll try Sark 24/7 and see how that works out if my first round ends up not doing too well.

I think that VPthingies and VMware/genunely different HW IDs are great to avoid chain bannings, but you need to make sure that you also use seperate methods to get the gold from your farm bots to the market.

e.g. if you have 5 bots running on stealthy setups and all 5 of your bots have the same trade a/c in your friends list and trade with this one account, then you might as well have not bothered with all the expense/hassle of the stealth.

Could be the trading that flags accounts and not so much the actual farming(?)
 
Gingerbread said:
That's a very naive way of thinking. I could write a list of 20-30 things .185 DB + giles plugins + act1 inf champ farming does that looks like a bot. (Am not going to on a public forum as I am not going to do Blizzards work for them)

I bot similarly to meph, so it seems I will get myself banned sooner rather than later. I think for my next round I'll try Sark 24/7 and see how that works out if my first round ends up not doing too well.

I think that VPthingies and VMware/genunely different HW IDs are great to avoid chain bannings, but you need to make sure that you also use seperate methods to get the gold from your farm bots to the market.

e.g. if you have 5 bots running on stealthy setups and all 5 of your bots have the same trade a/c in your friends list and trade with this one account, then you might as well have not bothered with all the expense/hassle of the stealth.

Could be the trading that flags accounts and not so much the actual farming(?)
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I would agree with Gingerbread and cannot deny the possibility that trading flags accounts by association.

Those that get banned seems to get future bans faster, could be because they are funneling/feeding gear obtained from the Main/Trade accounts to the Bot accounts and there were many ban reports stating their their Main/Trade accounts were mysteriously not banned and kept intact.
 
Mephuser what VP* program did you use? Did you clone the second VM?
 
PapaBash said:
Mephuser what VP* program did you use? Did you clone the second VM?
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Just PM'ed you the VP* Service that I'm using.

I didn't clone the VMs. All 3 VMs were freshly created and Diablo 3 was installed from scratch on each VM.
 
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Diablo 3 Ban Reports Go Here - Page 61
VirtualWolf said:
That's because thousands of people are using the champion farming. Repeated behavior is the dead give-away especially if there's more than a thousand people doing it, like I said find a unique area and make your own profile or if you're like me and still using IB find an area and let it run 2-4 minute runs to find something good.

The champion farming profiles do get stuck every so often, all it would take is a GM to watch repeated runs for the same exact movement/waypoints and boom your gone.
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Meph I actually wanted to write something regarding that guy. Diablo is a game of efficiency. A lot of legit players do sarkoth, champion farming in act 1, 2 ,3 etc and so on.

Sure you could bot hunting white trash and would probably be safe by doing it. I also have a mate using autoit with less then 100k gph. Not banned, but not really profitable either.
 
PapaBash said:
Meph I actually wanted to write something regarding that guy. Diablo is a game of efficiency. A lot of legit players do sarkoth, champion farming in act 1, 2 ,3 etc and so on.
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It seems that the trick to not getting banned for botting is to have your bot mimic a legit player as much as possible. Blizz have to be 99.9% sure an a/c is botting before they ban it. Sure they can ban anyone for any reason they want according to their (unenforceable) ToS, but, they also want to avoid bad press, and a bunch of false positive bans would probably impact their sales, so they appear to err on the side of caution.

Currently the easiest way to get banned is to play 24/7. It's super obvious that you're not human if you play 24/7, especially if you repeat the same short runs a lot. It also seems that none of the commercial bots are detected yet, given that auto it users are being banned, it's behaviour that seems to be setting flags.

I think that once the random dungeon DB release is stable and the profile writers have had a week or so to sink their teeth into it there will be several viable farming profiles out and about that closely mimic legit farm play and make it a lot harder for Blizz to figure out what's a bot and what isn't to the level of confidence they need to get to before they will ban.
 
Yes ginger this is what I mean exactly. I am pretty sure you could mix in Sarkoth if you want and probably have two different gear things and stuff like that but db isn't there yet. Once we can halfway mimic a legit player we are in the green. Unfortunately we are a long way from there. Selling stuff etc is all too botlike atm. Hopefully there is money to be made when the devs are finished with the basics. We won't know.
 
mephuser1000 said:
I would agree with Gingerbread and cannot deny the possibility that trading flags accounts by association.

Those that get banned seems to get future bans faster, could be because they are funneling/feeding gear obtained from the Main/Trade accounts to the Bot accounts and there were many ban reports stating their their Main/Trade accounts were mysteriously not banned and kept intact.
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i traded 45+mil plus loot and gems to my main account every day he would join all 4 bots they would trade him gold and drop all the items on the ground. My main is still going strong while my bots got banned in that ban wave. So i dont think bans by association are true. What if my main was some random guy buying this stuff from the trade forums....People sell gold in d3 trade forums every day. How are they gonna start banning people that get gold traded to them.
 
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