How much would a pc cost to run 30-50 bots?

[KevinV]

What would be a rough estimation for a Pc's cost that could run 30-50 bots?

 

[usrmd]

i dont imagine you're going to find a pc capable of running 30-50 (give or take 20 is A BIG difference bro..)? you're talking some kind of super computer.. 10+ghz, 100+GB ram.. not gonna happen dude.

 

[hgoutyt]

my laptop which has an 2.0 Ghz i7 processor and 8 gbs ram starts to lag a little with 5 going so to run 10x that would have to be a beast of a machine.

 

[KevinV]

Alright so lets say a pc that can run 25 then.

 

[Croga]

It would cost way too much. For the price of something capable of running 20+ you can buy 3 or 4 systems capable of running 10 each and the hardware to control it all.

So I would suggest you go for something like:
Core i5 2500
16GB RAM
Harddisk of any size (Don't go for an SSD, it's too expensive and the bots won't notice at all)
AMD Radeon 6770 or something similar

You should be able to get one of those for about 500-700 euros and it will run 10 bots.

If you want to run 30 bots you get 3 of those systems, a decent screen, a keyboard, a mouse and a Keyboard/Mouse/Video switch. You'll be able to control all 3 systems from one screen.

 

[hgoutyt]

It would cost way too much. For the price of something capable of running 20+ you can buy 3 or 4 systems capable of running 10 each and the hardware to control it all.

So I would suggest you go for something like:
Core i5 2500
16GB RAM
Harddisk of any size (Don't go for an SSD, it's too expensive and the bots won't notice at all)
AMD Radeon 6770 or something similar

You should be able to get one of those for about 500-700 euros and it will run 10 bots.

If you want to run 30 bots you get 3 of those systems, a decent screen, a keyboard, a mouse and a Keyboard/Mouse/Video switch. You'll be able to control all 3 systems from one screen.

i was gonna suggest the same. im gonna buy a $1600 USD computer that will probably run 10-15 bots its a bit better than the one he described (also go with AMD its alot cheaper then intel). $1600 also includes one of the most expensive cases ive found and 3 monitors. so the computer itself can probably be bought for $800-$900 and two of those will run quite a few bots for you.

 

[Smoogel]

It would cost way too much. For the price of something capable of running 20+ you can buy 3 or 4 systems capable of running 10 each and the hardware to control it all.

So I would suggest you go for something like:
Core i5 2500
16GB RAM
Harddisk of any size (Don't go for an SSD, it's too expensive and the bots won't notice at all)
AMD Radeon 6770 or something similar

You should be able to get one of those for about 500-700 euros and it will run 10 bots.

If you want to run 30 bots you get 3 of those systems, a decent screen, a keyboard, a mouse and a Keyboard/Mouse/Video switch. You'll be able to control all 3 systems from one screen.

Why 2500K? 3570K is about the same price and is 10% faster and also includes many features.

i was gonna suggest the same. im gonna buy a $1600 USD computer that will probably run 10-15 bots its a bit better than the one he described (also go with AMD its alot cheaper then intel). $1600 also includes one of the most expensive cases ive found and 3 monitors. so the computer itself can probably be bought for $800-$900 and two of those will run quite a few bots for you.

As for amd, no. Intel dominates AMD in almost every price point. The Bulldozer range is as powerful as a i3 (when it was promised to match the i5), and the Phenoms are noting special. Even a Intel Pentium which costs ?50 gives better gaming performance of a FX 8150 bulldozer.

 

[hgoutyt]

that so? ive never owned an amd but ive been reading forums and watching videos and people say the high end amds are slightly better for gaming and intels better for things like photo/video/and 3d model editing.

 

[hgoutyt]

and also the amd processor im lokking at is 8 core and its like 1/4 the price of intel

 

[Smoogel]

that so? ive never owned an amd but ive been reading forums and watching videos and people say the high end amds are slightly better for gaming and intels better for things like photo/video/and 3d model editing.

Nope.

The AMD FX 8150 which is AMDs 'top' processor and was released last year (around October-December sometime). However, in games a ?50 Intel Pentium performs pretty evenly despite the AMD having 8 cores and the Pentium only having 2. The FX 8150 costs about ?140
AnandTech - Bench - CPU
(Scroll to bottom to see games)
The FX 8150 do come ontop in most things, but that's pretty much expected since it costs ?100 more.

Even though games don't use 8 cores and only about 4, the Bulldozer should still have a advantage here.

Here is a 2500K i5 v 8150 FX which are about the same price
AnandTech - Bench - CPU
The i5 wins in almost all tasks

I was very dissapointed by this release as I really wanted to get hold of one. I hope the Piledriver they are creating is better

 

[CodenameG]

threads like these make me wonder if people actually do intend on running as many accounts as they say they will.

 

[hgoutyt]

AnandTech - Bench - CPU well i compared it with the best intel processor i found and according to that ur right it blows the amd out of the water. but that intel costs over $1000 USD and the amd costs $200 USD do you think i would be making a huge mistake getting the AMD?

 

[Smoogel]

AnandTech - Bench - CPU well i compared it with the best intel processor i found and according to that ur right it blows the amd out of the water. but that intel costs over $1000 USD and the amd costs $200 USD do you think i would be making a huge mistake getting the AMD?

I wouldn't say huge. It depends what you plan to be doing with your computer. For about the same price you can get a i5 3570K (which is a updated model of a 2500K)

A i5 will win in gaming and single threaded applications (so simple applications like itunes, firefox etc) and when using design software such as Photoshop.

However, a FX 8150 would be good if you do very heavy work such as video editing, a few design software open at the same time.

The i5 beats it in day to day use but if you regularly video edit and things like that the FX 8150 is somewhat worth considering.

If you plain to be a heavy botter, then they will perform evenly. The FX 8150 will take longer to process calculations from WOW (which is very CPU dependant ) so the CPU load will increase whereas the Intel can do it quicker, and reduce the overall load.

 

[Croga]

Why 2500K? 3570K is about the same price and is 10% faster and also includes many features.

But you don't need 10% faster and you don't need the features.
In the end it's all a matter of choice. But honestly; CPU power isn't the main issue here, it's RAM. So you go for the cheapest CPU that is able to do what you want. An i5 2300 is probably more then enough in this case which would save about another 50 euros.
But you are right. A 3570 is likely a better choice than a 2500. It's about 10 euros more expensive but does gain a couple Hertzes. I would never go for the K version though since overclocking is utterly useless in this case (not to mention always risky).

 

[hgoutyt]

well i mostly just game, was gonna start working on profiles for this and maybe get into a little 3d editing but nothing major. i was just looking at the 2500k b4 u mentioned its upgrade and that seems better than the fx 8150 and is only like $50 more expensive.

 

[Smoogel]

But you don't need 10% faster and you don't need the features.
In the end it's all a matter of choice. But honestly; CPU power isn't the main issue here, it's RAM. So you go for the cheapest CPU that is able to do what you want. An i5 2300 is probably more then enough in this case which would save about another 50 euros.
But you are right. A 3570 is likely a better choice than a 2500. It's about 10 euros more expensive but does gain a couple Hertzes. I would never go for the K version though since overclocking is utterly useless in this case (not to mention always risky).

I see your point and it's very vaild

However, the i5 3570K uses less power so in a year or two that extra 10 euros would be worth it.
The 3570K also runs cooler at stock settings, so for long periods it is not that bad.
It's 10% faster as well.
It has PCIE 3.0 which is not used efficiently yet, but future graphics cards will enjoy this.
Much better integrated graphics so if your GPU blows up, you wont be using crappy graphics

well i mostly just game, was gonna start working on profiles for this and maybe get into a little 3d editing but nothing major. i was just looking at the 2500k b4 u mentioned its upgrade and that seems better than the fx 8150 and is only like $50 more expensive.

Yeah, in my opinion at least I would recommend the i5 There are many reviews all over the internet comparing the FX 8150 and i5 if you want to have more thought into it

 

[punisher775]

Im kinda curious,

my processor is an i7 2700k, i run 5 WoWs and 1 D3 at once on it 24/7 for a little over 1 month (when i bought it) i have a liquid cooler in it and my processor temperature never gets above 35c.

But when i do Ctrl+alt+del and check my performance tab, i see that the CPU usage goes from 60% to 92%.
is it really under full load only running those things? i would think for such a nice processor i would be able to handle more.

My videocard is fine at 30% load in MSI afterburner though, stays cool at 49c too.


So basically my question is this : if the temperature remains that low, does it mean the performance graph is wrong and my processor can handle an extra D3 account? i dont want to overload my processor and make it run hot, and thus wearing my watercooler up more.
and my motherboard clock speed monitor says 3.6 GHZ. i think it can overclock itself with turboboost up to 4.2. is it safe to run another D3 account? i want some more income from diablo.

 

[Giwin]

Honestly, start small and then IF you get enough money to get more bots then do so.

 

[Smoogel]

It does seem odd that you can't put much load onto it. On my i5 3570K I can get 5 wows and use 40-50% of it. Are they on low details? Also, have you tried limiting the frames in WOW to about 20/30?

 

[punisher775]

It does seem odd that you can't put much load onto it. On my i5 3570K I can get 5 wows and use 40-50% of it. Are they on low details? Also, have you tried limiting the frames in WOW to about 20/30?

how do i limit the frames in wow? they are all at 60 fps, so is diablo.

Edit : i found it.

holy crap went from 90% load to 30% load.