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Need help for my new computer (10 bot minimum)

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Hi,
I'm looking for a new computer, and i'm going to bot (looking for 10 bot, more in the future). I do not want to do something wrong so i'm asking your help.
Multi-core processor (4/6/8??)
RAM 16gb or 32gb?
Did i need SLI? (I want 2 screens btw)

Budget: 2500? (3000$) -> Without screen/keyboard/mouse
 
epic investment, with that kind of coin you can get the best of the best
i7 3rd gen, 32gb ram, 256gb ssd, 7970hd cross fire, pretty much the basic setup for the rest
 
2500 euros for a machine is a very high budget. you can build a top of the line gaming rig with that. here is what I would recommend.

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMD16GX3M2A1600C9 x 2 (you should be fine with 16gb but if you want to do 32 then go for 2 of these - this ram came out recently. like 2 weeks ago)

Newegg.ca - ASUS Maximus V FORMULA LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard (This board just came into the market a couple of weeks ago also. I have this board and the above ram sitting in my shelves. waiting on some more hardware so I can build)

Newegg.ca - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2BAA 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (256 should be plenty for your OS and 10 bots. I use a 128 of these and it's enough but don't have much room for anything else. 256 should give you that extra room)

Newegg.ca - Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K (You could go Ivy Bridge but they produce quite a bit of a heat when overclocked. a 2700k will overclock like a fucking beast without problems. 4.5 easily)

or Newegg.ca - Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K (If you want the latest)

Newegg.ca - EVGA 04G-P4-2686-KR GeForce GTX 680 w/ Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (4GB version, get 2 if you really want to. The motherboard supports SLI. Two GTX 670's would be PLENTY but if you want to spend your full budget then get 2 of these. Especially if you get a monitor with a high resolution)

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Great water cooling solution for your CPU. no maintenance required and easy to install)

Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Professional Series HX1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Semi Modular Power Supply (I own the HX1000 and HX1050. I also have the HX750 and HX850 in other computers and always use these for client computers. Very solid power supplies. Never had a problem and would always recommend them. They are also Modular so it makes cable management a breeze)

Newegg.ca - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - CD / DVD Burners (Simple, but SATA and has a much cleaner look then an ugly IDE cable. I have bought over 10 of these and they are great. any DVD drive will do the job but just make sure it's SATA)

Optional

If you care about sound quality of your music and games I would go with a Newegg.ca - ASUS Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Soundcard Set or a 2.1 stereo setup if you only care about music quality Newegg.ca - ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Express x1 Interface 124 dB SNR / Headphone AMP Card

If you want a big monitor then I would go with one of the Korean monitors like the Shimian, Catleap or Crossover. they are beautiful monitors with a 2560x1440 resolution, IPS, LED etc and 27". I own one myself and I am in love with it. LG makes the panels but the frames are made by Korean Companies. They cost 1/4 the price of a brand name ones and deliver the same quality. Great reviews too. I don't know anyone who would pay 350 for a regular 24 inch monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution when you can get one of these. [QH270-Lite] Achieva ShiMian 27" Quad HD 16:9 DVI-D Wide 2560x1440 PC Monitor | eBay

The tower is completely up to you, but I would recommend a full tower like a Newegg.ca - Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case or a Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER COSMOS II RC-1200-KKN1 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case if you want to be a crazy bastard. - I own both, and both are amazing. Don't be a nub and get one of those towers with rainbow LED's all over the place. for a budget like that, get something with a very good quality build and lots of space. You will want good airflow if you will be running this system for extended hours. These towers are excellent for cable management and give you lots of room for upgrades.

Keyboard Mouse is up to you as well, I have switched over to mechanical and love it. Mouse I just bought a Mamba but haven't tried it yet. Been using a lachesis for a good year now and razer mouses are def. my favorite.
 
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What are you guys telling this man to buy?

16gb ram with 10+ bots? Not sufficent. 32gb...
i7-3770k
and then a lovely graphic card however your budget would be enough for almost two such rigs. Not really seeing the need to crossfire GPU's yet when you can isbox.and you do not need more then 60gb SSD
 
PapaBash said:
What are you guys telling this man to buy?

16gb ram with 10+ bots? Not sufficent. 32gb...
i7-3770k
and then a lovely graphic card however your budget would be enough for almost two such rigs. Not really seeing the need to crossfire GPU's yet when you can isbox.and you do not need more then 60gb SSD
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I was using 12 GB of ram for 8 - 10 bots on one machine using X58 setup and I wasn't even using 7GB of that. If you don't know what you are talking about then don't recommend anything. 32GB is WAY over kill, 16gb is way more than plenty. any consumer CPU on the market will top out before 16gb of ram could be used making 32gb ridiculous and 16gb a reasonable and sufficient amount. The 3770K is only 6-8% better than a 2700k if they are both at stock speeds. the 2700k will overclock higher considering the ivy bridge chips get very hot when overclocked. a 2700k is a more stable and high performance choice unless you are using a high end water loop for the 3770K but even then, the 2700k will OC better and higher. 60GB SSD for 10 + bots? not everyone uses isboxer. I got it myself and did not like it. I prefer using separate D3 folders as do many others. He has a 2500 euro budget and I recommended hardware that will be very high in performance and last him a good 3 years before he needs to upgrade to something that's actually worth upgrading. gtfo please.
 
EVGA graphic card are better than a normal Nvidia? I want take one graphic card now (for 10 bot) and i will go for another one when i get more bot (if Blizzard allow me haha)
Do you know how much bot can i run with 32GB? Because i think it's a bit too much
And what about the 3930k, it's more expensive but i got 2 more core? I prefer pay a bit more if i get a real difference with +2 core


Chulie said:
I was using 12 GB of ram for 8 - 10 bots on one machine using X58 setup and I wasn't even using 7GB of that. If you don't know what you are talking about then don't recommend anything. 32GB is WAY over kill, 16gb is way more than plenty. any consumer CPU on the market will top out before 16gb of ram could be used making 32gb ridiculous and 16gb a reasonable and sufficient amount. The 3770K is only 6-8% better than a 2700k if they are both at stock speeds. the 2700k will overclock higher considering the ivy bridge chips get very hot when overclocked. a 2700k is a more stable and high performance choice unless you are using a high end water loop for the 3770K but even then, the 2700k will OC better and higher. 60GB SSD for 10 + bots? not everyone uses isboxer. I got it myself and did not like it. I prefer using separate D3 folders as do many others. He has a 2500 euro budget and I recommended hardware that will be very high in performance and last him a good 3 years before he needs to upgrade to something that's actually worth upgrading. gtfo please.
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I will use watercooling. (I want OC to 4.2/4.5 max)
 
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you can get 2x10+ machines for that money. have done it myself.
 
XNXX said:
EVGA graphic card are better than a normal Nvidia? I want take one graphic card now (for 10 bot) and i will go for another one when i get more bot (if Blizzard allow me haha)
Do you know how much bot can i run with 32GB? Because i think it's a bit too much
And what about the 3930k, it's more expensive but i got 2 more core? I prefer pay a bit more if i get a real difference with +2 core


I will use watercooling. (I want OC to 4.2/4.5 max)
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Get 16GB of ram.

EVGA Graphic cards ARE Nvidia. Nvidia manufactures the GPU's but the heat sinks and PCB is sold by other distribution companies like EVGA, ASUS, Gigabyte etc. Usually these cards come as the "reference" design from Nvidia but they are also sometimes modified by companies. for example, the original GTX 680 is a 2GB model but EVGA has released a 4GB version. If you look around for a GTX 680 you will see that there are different companies selling the same card. The only difference of the cards is the looks (different logo's, heat sink design, and sometimes the actual hardware is modified by overclocks or more memory but the GPU is ALWAYS the same and made by Nvidia)

if you look at these benchmarks you will see that the 2700k outperforms the 3930k in some games and when it doesn't, the performance gain over the 2700k is extremely minimal. However, the 3930k is 6 cores as you say and also has HT so if were talking about # of bots then yes, the 3930K will give you access to more bots. Keep in mind though, the 3930K will run you over 600 dollars USD after taxes and shipping and it is also a 2011 socket type so you would have to get a 2011 socket motherboard and quad channel ram. If you need help with compatibility and best bang for the buck just PM me. Also keep in mind that if one day you get banned and decide to stop botting, you're going to be left with very expensive hardware that you could have spent a lot less money on for gaming purposes and w/e else you do on your computer and not even notice a performance difference. It's also very important to realize that computer hardware drops in value significantly over the period of 1-2 years. Remember when core 2 duo's were released and core 2 quads? or even X58 setups i7 920's, lga1366 and lga1156 ... all obsolete now. These things aren't even sold anymore and the same will happen with sandy bridge and ivy bridge. So you really need to think about what you really absolutely need and then buy based on that. or 2 years from now you will regret spending 600 dollars on a CPU that is no longer on the market.

Intel Core i7-3820 vs. Core i7-2700K and Core i7-3930K. Page 6 - X-bit labs
 
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I'm gonna PM thanks a lot!
Btw do you think is it better if i shop in US and ship everything in EU?
 
Bro, stop wasting that much money on "high end pc", you don't need it for botting.
You can get a TOP pc for 700? each, take this build.:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K Quad-Core Prozessor Boxed: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 Pro3 Sockel 1155 Mainboard: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Ram: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0067PNDS8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=A32W3989DZTKZY
GPU: Asustek AMD Radeon HD 6770 Grafikkarte: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Case: Sharkoon T9 Value Green PC-Geh?use ATX Midi Tower: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
SDD: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-7PC128B-WW-128GB-6-0Gbps/dp/B007BBQPUA/ref=lh_ni_t
Energy: LC Power LC6600 Netzteil 600W V2.2 schwarz: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r

Price: 702,16?

Everything higher (expect GPU and SDD) is wasted money.
 
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I know, but how much bot can i run with this build? 10 max?
 
Chulie said:
I was using 12 GB of ram for 8 - 10 bots on one machine using X58 setup and I wasn't even using 7GB of that. If you don't know what you are talking about then don't recommend anything. 32GB is WAY over kill, 16gb is way more than plenty. any consumer CPU on the market will top out before 16gb of ram could be used making 32gb ridiculous and 16gb a reasonable and sufficient amount. The 3770K is only 6-8% better than a 2700k if they are both at stock speeds. the 2700k will overclock higher considering the ivy bridge chips get very hot when overclocked. a 2700k is a more stable and high performance choice unless you are using a high end water loop for the 3770K but even then, the 2700k will OC better and higher. 60GB SSD for 10 + bots? not everyone uses isboxer. I got it myself and did not like it. I prefer using separate D3 folders as do many others. He has a 2500 euro budget and I recommended hardware that will be very high in performance and last him a good 3 years before he needs to upgrade to something that's actually worth upgrading. gtfo please.
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The i7-3770k is first of 10% stronger from stock and still overclocks ok and a lot less power consuming, which does matter on a bot pc since it is running 24/7 it will literally pay itself due to that. Even if it was just as strong as the 2700k. Furthermore he can't get his own pc, why do you think he is able to properly OC? OC'ing is not for everyone.

You don't need ISboxer to start several games out of 1 installation, there are a lot of ways to do it without it.

If you say 16gb ram is enough then I think you are not virtualizing anything.That is a choice, but you take his away when you say 16gb is enough. 1.5ishgb ram will crash down Workstation 8 regularly with out of mem problems.
 
for 3k$ you can build 3 bot machines capable of botting 15+

Already went through the whole CPU debate an I7 3770 or AMD FX 8150 OCed can both do 15+ the I7 will do it better though.
Video Card 7850 + can do 15 or more

No need to spend 3k$ when you can do it for 1k.
 
CutePro said:
Bro, stop wasting that much money on "high end pc", you don't need it for botting.
You can get a TOP pc for 700€ each, take this build.:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K Quad-Core Prozessor Boxed: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 Pro3 Sockel 1155 Mainboard: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Ram: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0067PNDS8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=A32W3989DZTKZY
GPU: Asustek AMD Radeon HD 6770 Grafikkarte: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
Case: Sharkoon T9 Value Green PC-Geh?use ATX Midi Tower: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r
SDD: http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-7PC128B-WW-128GB-6-0Gbps/dp/B007BBQPUA/ref=lh_ni_t
Energy: LC Power LC6600 Netzteil 600W V2.2 schwarz: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh?r

Price: 702,16€

Everything higher (expect GPU and SDD) is wasted money.
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^^ this.
It will run 10 bots easily which means for the original budget you can get 2 of these machines, a very decent screen, keyboard, mouse and KVM switch so you can run both systems on one screen/keyboard/mouse and *STILL* have money to spare.
 
I doubt that 6770 can do 10 easily. If you're going to build a machine get a newer GPU 7850 or higher. if you wanna bot say 15 instead of 10 it will be worth it since you will only have to spend 100$ more on the video card.
 
Chulie said:
I was using 12 GB of ram for 8 - 10 bots on one machine using X58 setup and I wasn't even using 7GB of that. If you don't know what you are talking about then don't recommend anything. 32GB is WAY over kill, 16gb is way more than plenty. any consumer CPU on the market will top out before 16gb of ram could be used making 32gb ridiculous and 16gb a reasonable and sufficient amount. The 3770K is only 6-8% better than a 2700k if they are both at stock speeds. the 2700k will overclock higher considering the ivy bridge chips get very hot when overclocked. a 2700k is a more stable and high performance choice unless you are using a high end water loop for the 3770K but even then, the 2700k will OC better and higher. 60GB SSD for 10 + bots? not everyone uses isboxer. I got it myself and did not like it. I prefer using separate D3 folders as do many others. He has a 2500 euro budget and I recommended hardware that will be very high in performance and last him a good 3 years before he needs to upgrade to something that's actually worth upgrading. gtfo please.
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Chulie how come you're not using VMware + VP connection? I'm scared to run that many bots on same MAC and same IP... but yeah of course you can run way more that way.
 
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