yes because youre a retard if you think someone having a lot of gold makes them a botter.
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lot of gold in the account and gold collected by this char is not the same
they can just check all char with 200M+ collected
Agreed, got friends that have been playing actively since launch that wouldn't hit the 100m number for another year. My bot on the other hand does it in 2 weeks.
It's not like they don't have or make good money though, but its big sales not drops.
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I'm sorry, but I'll have to say it in a very cynical way: if you don't know the basics of law, do not make statements like that one. For the love of god.
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As with any decision that gets made at a company of ActiBlizz's size, it all comes down to cost/benefit analysis. Assume that they bring on 50 extra people (huge hire, but what would be needed to make a dent) to combat bots, assume these guys make US 17$/hour (very conservative), that's 1.8 M dollars in straight labor per year, not including workman's comp/unemployment insurance/ benefits etc (closer to 2.5 mil after all that). Now, how much would they stand to gain from sales done by manual players in a market that is less saturated/inflated from botters (also revenue completely lost via 3rd party sales, done predominantly by botters)? Hard to say, but I think fairly negligible as A) the damage is done and B) the market will inflate/items lose value anyway .
Another factor is to assume that each new employee bans 3 accounts per day (conservative). Assume 60% of these bot accounts banned rebuys a copy, that is 1.6 million revenue recovered+profits gained from a less inflated market. So from a simple, completely hypothetical, unfounded cost benefit analysis we have
Cost: -2.5 Mil
Benefit: 1.6 Mil + unknown gain from AH sales
So basically a market with fewer botters needs to add .9 mil to revenue to make the new hires worth it, with additional value derived from good PR that Blizz is "*****ing down" on botters.
This is all totally fictional but Blizz definitely runs these numbers. In my opinion there would not be clear profits from doing this, and there is a lot of ambiguity that even a very experienced economist couldn't get through in terms of potential gain, so my guess would be they would just invest more in warden, pattern detection, and other software that can be automated and ban players who fit the bill with 98% confidence.
TLDR: probably not, maybe, cat and mouse continues
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The thing is that if they wanted to solve the issue with sark, they would have done it already. They aren't doing it primarily because it's the only spot hardcore (and softcore to a lesser degree) players going into inferno can farm. They have already nerfed a bunch of spots because of botters and they can't nerf them all. If they do it's not only an admission of guilt that they can't beat the botters by detection and banning (we know it, they know it, player base doesn't want to believe it), but it also harms regular players. The only thing they can do is damage control and maximize profits. They have to show they are banning players; having posts every month saying we banned X thousand players looks really good, despite it being negligible.
No company ever will be able to beat botters simply because if it can be programmed, it can be de-programmed and deconstructed. This in combination with the fact that you have thousands of guys writing their own unique stuff versus a one- size-fits-all detection program, there is no way. I figure that they HAVE to ban because it would look awful if they didn't and they get some return on money if they do.
The REAL anti botting mechanism is built in, which is that gold will lose value to the dollar and eventually one bot running 24/7 will need to successfully run for 2 weeks to break even, which is not even close to a good profit margin for a botter. I am completely convinced this is all planned, come august, it's simply not gonna be worth time/money to bot D3, and people with limited computer resources will go bot somewhere else.
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It all really boils down to what blizzard does with the game.If future patches add a lot of fun content (pvp, survival mode etc) then we could see a lot of people coming back. I believe it will happen, considering they have yet to launch a title that has flopped (even WC3 has tons of players), but it's all about if they do it fast enough. Games (good ones too) come out every week nowadays and they need to keep improvements coming fast if they want to keep people hooked.
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Blizzard is REACTIVE instead of proactive. Expect Blizzard to move only when GW2 is released.
Yeah really can't see the benefit outweighing the cost for these witch hunts people seem to be paranoid about, us botters aren't really destroying the game and the amount of data that some people think they keep on millions of accounts just wouldn't make sense. It's gotta be purely for good PR and them sending out the dogs probably consists of a couple of QA/Developers that have downtime while the other 99% of the ppl caught were through their automated processes. Some of you were probably just really unlucky or trolling.
It's possible that Blizzard put a flag on chars that got 100kk+ gold from floor? this information is available for us, my char alrdy got 60kk gold from floor, i'm sure they have a away to know this and do some manualy investigation.
