Anti-Warden Protection

[haymaker]

I hear a lot of previous Buddy users claiming the team has anti-warden protection, maximum safety, etc, based on previous different products. But if I recall, I don't know if any admins or buddy devs have explicitly stated there is any anti-warden protection. In fact there are no claims on the feature list.

Can you guys (admins/devs) comment on this?

B/c "safety" is basically what is keeping a lot of us as customers, as the bot is far from efficient and usable (afk without worry). I know I already have a chance to be banned b/c of botting, but if there is the same amount of risk to be banned from using a slow bot vs a fast bot, I'd obviously choose the latter.

 

[99dsimonp]

Have you searched the forum at all? There are loads of posts where they comment on their protection and Warden.

 

[kvich]

I've been using Honor/gatherbuddy for years. I've been banned on one account, and that's when I was a noob and ran uldum 24/7. A big part of bans comes from player reports, not the ability for warden to track the bot itself. The way Diablo 3 is setup, there really isn't a fear of being player-reported unless your friends suck or you allow people to join your game.

Personally, I'd suggest running the bot 8~ hours a day if you want to be cautious. No real person can farm 24/7.

 

[no1knowsy]

Demonbuddy has protection.
You can wait for one of the admins/devs to pop in and say it if you wish.

The buddy team has tons of experience dealing with The Warden.
Honorbuddy, at least as long as I've been here, I can't remember a single "detection".
People only got banned for doing stupid things (24/7 etc)
Blizzard isn't going to just make something new when the Warden works fairly well for their purposes (even though in reality it's an outdated POS).

But again, better safe than sorry.
I'm not going to berate you for wanting that

 

[haymaker]

Have you searched the forum at all? There are loads of posts where they comment on their protection and Warden.

Yes I did, and I didn't feel like looking through 54 threads that had "warden" in it.

However, on 2nd thought I did search for warden and both Tony and Hawker:
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/54863-doesnt-even-compare-competetion.html#post555521
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/54296-how-safe.html#post550361

So in conclusion, safety is on their mind and therefore I will wait it out a bit more b4 thinking about moving to another bot.

 

[fr3357]

I hear a lot of previous Buddy users claiming the team has anti-warden protection, maximum safety, etc, based on previous different products. But if I recall, I don't know if any admins or buddy devs have explicitly stated there is any anti-warden protection. In fact there are no claims on the feature list.

Can you guys (admins/devs) comment on this?

B/c "safety" is basically what is keeping a lot of us as customers, as the bot is far from efficient and usable (afk without worry). I know I already have a chance to be banned b/c of botting, but if there is the same amount of risk to be banned from using a slow bot vs a fast bot, I'd obviously choose the latter.

cant tell if serious or if trolling

 

[haymaker]

cant tell if serious or if trolling

I'm curious to know why you don't think my question is legitimate?

 

[pwnzoor]

Only 1 banwave in wow with warden active 24/7.... they must have done something right ?

 

[no1knowsy]

I'm curious to know why you don't think my question is legitimate?

Because he's been here long enough to not have to ever think about it being safe anymore :/
It has become second nature to know that you won't come back to a "We Caught You Botting" popup in his window.

 

[haymaker]

Only 1 banwave in wow with warden active 24/7.... they must have done something right ?

As I stated, my question was about this game.

Because he's been here long enough to not have to ever think about it being safe anymore :/
It has because second nature to know that you won't come back to a "We Caught You Botting" popup in his window.

My issue isn't with being caught. However if the risk is the same b/w a slow bot and a faster bot, which would you choose?

Anyway, I'll wait it out a bit more.

 

[shuuk]

yes safe against bot detection..but what is warden doing?
can warden see you are using a profile 5-6-10 hours always the same nav ?
is blizz. allowed to ban people by only runing the same nav for hours? i dont think so but maybe they make it

im botting for years in wow without any ban. only one cause of a hack detection..
inw ow you can get reportet..in d3 its not possible..

so what are the theorys behind warden how can warden catch you?

what say the devs? change the profile every 2 hours? i remember a thread in hb they say it doesnt mater if you use public profile...
so how can we have max. protection?

 

[stevelulwow]

As I stated, my question was about this game.


My issue isn't with being caught. However if the risk is the same b/w a slow bot and a faster bot, which would you choose?

Anyway, I'll wait it out a bit more.

Choose the safer one IMO... Regardless if it is slower or not. It has been out LESS THAN A WEEK. Just in the past few days they have made giant improvements to it, and even lowered the price. I am happy where I am with any of the products that these guys have put out. I am not going anywhere.

 

[no1knowsy]

Warden catches you by looking for scripts, it runs "profiles" sort of like the bot, but these can just be sent out by Blizzard.
It deals with the memory side.

As far as server side, that is the information gathering part. How long have they been online? Have they been in the same zone the whole time? How many nodes/kills do they have? All the same node/monster type?
The information gathering is what gets Honorbuddy, along with player reports.

 

[fr3357]

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...beta-my-demonbuddy-analysis-5.html#post549333

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/genera...-3rd-party-tool-diablo-iii-62.html#post543511

I could go on for hours re-posting all of hawkers threads that say they have protection. In relation to this they have dealt with warden with honor buddy and its well over proven it works. There is a post I tried to find but so many of his, that states they have it but its different than WoW so it wasn't just copy and paste. With that said if you know how the rift bot made out u might be gambling, BUT that's a COMPLETELY different company and they detected in ways different than blizz cause of lawsuits from what I understand etc etc etc.. the point was 50000000000x people a day ask about this. Yes it has it, will you get told how it works or anything else NO... simply put it is there... and they will tell you OVER AND OVER

" DO NOT BOT ON SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO RISK, THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE OF BEING DETECTED"


so for every 2012 that has like 1-10 posts always coming and asking... do some reading and figure this out cause its more than covered on these forums in every aspect.

PS the devs probably haven't posted in here because they have work to do, posts that are actually working on fixing stuff than to answer for the 100000000th time the question that has been answered already. One of the things I learned hear first is if you want help USE SEARCH, and only when SEARCH doesn't help, request. There is a over redundant amount of posts covering the same topic and its not consolidated because of this exact thing people keep making new ones for no reason but being too lazy to look.

 

[haymaker]

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...beta-my-demonbuddy-analysis-5.html#post549333

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/genera...-3rd-party-tool-diablo-iii-62.html#post543511

I could go on for hours re-posting all of hawkers threads that say they have protection. In relation to this they have dealt with warden with honor buddy and its well over proven it works. There is a post I tried to find but so many of his, that states they have it but its different than WoW so it wasn't just copy and paste. With that said if you know how the rift bot made out u might be gambling, BUT that's a COMPLETELY different company and they detected in ways different than blizz cause of lawsuits from what I understand etc etc etc.. the point was 50000000000x people a day ask about this. Yes it has it, will you get told how it works or anything else NO... simply put it is there... and they will tell you OVER AND OVER

" DO NOT BOT ON SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO RISK, THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE OF BEING DETECTED"


so for every 2012 that has like 1-10 posts always coming and asking... do some reading and figure this out cause its more than covered on these forums in every aspect.

PS the devs probably haven't posted in here because they have work to do, posts that are actually working on fixing stuff than to answer for the 100000000th time the question that has been answered already. One of the things I learned hear first is if you want help USE SEARCH, and only when SEARCH doesn't help, request. There is a over redundant amount of posts covering the same topic and its not consolidated because of this exact thing people keep making new ones for no reason but being too lazy to look.

Thanks for taking the time to link those posts. I did see the 2nd one at some point, but somehow just forgot about it.

You're right, I should have taken more than a few mins to re-search my question. I was in a frustrated state of mind after trying unsuccessfully to make a profile work smoothly based on all the possible things that were bugging the bot out.

 

[Chulie]

been here for years dude. The only way to get banned in WoW from experience is selling mass amounts of gold to the asians which is tracked by blizzard almost instantly, or by farming herbs and ores and liquidating it to gold often and in mass amounts. You have to play it safe in wow to keep a stable/healthy botting life. However, leveling in world of warcraft doing pvp 24/7 .. absolutely no bans. Not even 1. They seem to track down more on the gold selling / farming aspect of the game, but they do it through player reports or by checking hours spent in popular areas for extended amount of hours. It's pretty easy for botters to see other botters also. Sometimes it's our own community that is reporting each other in order to eleminate competetion. The times I have been I get an email saying "economy exploitation + 3rd party software" and I know Warden did not detect this, they simply investigate once you sell off a ton of gold. Trust me.... buddy products are not 100% safe, but they are top notch compare to other bots when it comes to security. The only bot I ever seen on par with honorbuddy is Pirox, but HB was a better bot in my opinion.

I don't know what hawker or other devs have claimed about their security so I am personally speaking from my years of experience using buddy products. That's why when demon buddy came out I bought 3 copies of 3 session life time keys because I knew it would be the best Diablo III bot out no questions. IB was good while it lasted but the damn devs haven't even updated it because they knew it was detected. They are probably programming the whole damn project. Who knows. I feel pretty safe using DB and even if I get banned I don't care. I'll start again. I got my life time keys whenever I need them

 

[swolbyn]

yes safe against bot detection..but what is warden doing?

is blizz. allowed to ban people by only runing the same nav for hours? i dont think so but maybe they make it​

Blizzard can ban you for pretty much anything they want. It's in the EULA they can terminate your ability to play if you break what they feel are their rules.

 

[fr3357]

Blizzard can ban you for pretty much anything they want. It's in the EULA they can terminate your ability to play if you break what they feel are their rules.

what he said, refer to past pindle bots via d2, I know alot of them banned because of lack of protection, but the origin of game creation and max games and spam killing one thing came from here and is a good reference to what you ask

 

[Firework]

Only 1 banwave in wow with warden active 24/7.... they must have done something right ?

From whom I've talked to who was banned they weren't for-say 24/7 botter some had only tried a bot once, where others admitted to maphacking, injecting into the game itself and other obvious methods of ban. ( ie. the next banwave I assume is going to be people speedhacking because to me that seems super detectable but it all depends on the level of logging at Blizzard. )

And while plenty of people are gaming 24/7 with shared logged locations (ie. I play 12 hours and my room mate players 12 hours) probably isn't as uncommon as people would think.

People are reporting bans for immortal and HB. I think what gets your account flagged is not the amount online but the amount you haul in gold per week. Someone making 30 million a day will be more suspicious to me than someone making 2 million in gold only.

I am going on assumptions only I am not banned, but have used hellbuddy until day 1 of Demonbuddy. I think warden is right now flagging accounts for clear hacking.

 

[Liferose]

This is all just a big ball of wibbly wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff.

One does not simply know everything about warden. Guessing by this games finesse in terms of lag, auction house problems, and that France dispute. I highly doubt their warden is a threat, you're usually going to get banned from statistics or people reporting you. Thus having them study you individually. If you worry about the warden when it comes to this you need to find another hobby.