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[BETA] Apsalar - Lady of Thieves - PvP Subtlety Rogue CC

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DJKid said:
I did notice tho that when it was on a target in a group of horde it doesn't run away as mentioned, it usually targets someone in the middle and runs into the group.
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I mentioned not endlessly chasing one target like all bots do, not running away from anyone. Also this is BGBot's job to pick targets, even if i really wanted i can't interfere with it ;(
 
It's well known that BG-Bots (HB) targetting is not topnotch.

In a group of 10 it can pick the target that's way in the back of that group.

Been pointed out numerous times but nothing is done about it.
 
hi1674 said:
It's well known that BG-Bots (HB) targetting is not topnotch.

In a group of 10 it can pick the target that's way in the back of that group.

Been pointed out numerous times but nothing is done about it.
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Yeup
 
noticed something, Even if pet targeting is turned off in the config, It still target and attempt to kill all snakes from a hunters snaketrap.
Also when apply poisons with FoK is turned on, you break stealth with FoK and after Shadowstep in
 
hi1674 said:
It's well known that BG-Bots (HB) targetting is not topnotch.

In a group of 10 it can pick the target that's way in the back of that group.

Been pointed out numerous times but nothing is done about it.
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Didn't know about it.

It is basically made to prefer low hp targets at range over full hp targets at melee.
To give you idea of values with default settings (it is editable in DevSettings, but i don't recommend it):

HP % - max distance to chase
90% - 6 yd (1 over melee range)
80% - 7 yd
70% - 8 yd
60% - 10 yd
50% - 12 yd
40% - 14 yd
30% - 18 yd
20% - 22 yd
10% - 26 yd
~0%- 31 yd

About killing Snake Traps, i don't think HB (or even WoW itself) detects them as pets, can make FoK to kill them tho.
 
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Ahh.

My little statement is regarding attack to a new target ^^
 
After testing this CC for a few days I can't help to notice it does an amazing job. I think it's the second one (after ShamWOW) that can actually replace human interaction in terms of responsiveness and smart decisions, and the first CC that I've tried that can actually win most 1v1 battles. Other CC can get you there, support the team with some damage, but you get a kill to death ratio that is under 1 most of the times. With this CC I've managed even 19 to 3 in some BGs completely unattended.

About BGBot I know everyone uses it, 20% of WoW population on all realms are bots and they farm decently, but it's indeed not quite as effective. If some of the guys that are such good programmers would spend some time helping out with BGBot's pathing and targeting, the entire community would appreciate it and bots could actually influence the tide of the battle, not only stand next to the guys spending their time pushing inch by inch for the victory.

Thanks mate and keep up the good work.
 
strix please put in check for stupidity.
Last night I got back and had to try the next build. I was so excited I looked at the gui and changed this and that.
Jumped right into pvp and it just didn't seem to be doing anything right.
I changed settings and still it was just nothing.
I went back and tried 2.7 and same thing.
WTF it worked last week.

CAN YOU PUT IN A CHECK FOR is the idiot in sub spec ROFL

after fixing that it works great.


agree with above post.
they have seemed to drop all support of pvp. spend some time helping out with BGBot's pathing and targeting
BG like AV seems to have problems making up its mind...once you see it then its easy to say bot.

Stops at the bottom of the hill at start, turns and runs back for a while always stops at the same point, then takes off the other way.
run to the first tower and to not be a bot run right....no it runs left.
could go on and on...
I am no expert but I guess some bg's just don't lend themselves to bots no matter how much you program.
just put in an option for attack or defend and set it up for that.

Hayt what bg's are you running that you feel can be done unattended? Stock pathing?


BUT what good is a great bg bot if we don't have any good cc's that do pvp.
THIS ONE !!!! but most classes don't have anything.
not sure if they don't make a good cc because they don't pvp or since the bg bot is so poor why bother.


just put in an option for attack or defend and set it up for that.
 
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Hi Strix!
Thanks for this CC !! It's working very very well, try it in Arena(2vs2) with my pala ( Gilderoy CC) all perfect.... I was wondering.... in the future Can we have all the controll of the moviment?
After I swich off Disabale moviment and targeting... I still have some issue... I had focus on the DK... then the CC swich on the healer(if he's close to me)....I also try the last verision(same issue).can u tell me(or someone) how I've to set the CC ?
thanks

+rep for this amazing WORK!
 
sparks said:
agree with above post.
they have seemed to drop all support of pvp. spend some time helping out with BGBot's pathing and targeting
BG like AV seems to have problems making up its mind...once you see it then its easy to say bot.

Stops at the bottom of the hill at start, turns and runs back for a while always stops at the same point, then takes off the other way.
run to the first tower and to not be a bot run right....no it runs left.
could go on and on...
I am no expert but I guess some bg's just don't lend themselves to bots no matter how much you program.
just put in an option for attack or defend and set it up for that.

Hayt what bg's are you running that you feel can be done unattended? Stock pathing?

just put in an option for attack or defend and set it up for that.
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I have noticed that EoS and WSG are the most efficient as honor/hour and it's very unlikely to get stuck. Strand of the Ancients is buggy and I get stuck sometimes or the bot just sits in the wrong places and ppl shouts at you. AB, AV, IoC are medium honor gain, but still you might get stuck.
I think AV is easy to fix since there are paths inside buildings and that's not the area where the bot is obvious. It's the hills and the trees where you run around in circles. If both sides don't care about objectives and just fight near the cementary the bot is amazing, I got 310HK 21 blows 9 deaths in just 1 AV completely afk.

@arenty Recuperate working fine, I have it on every fight, 100% uptime.
 
LOL never happend for me ! Always used! check the setting, He will use it on 20 or 25% of health :)
 
Im not really sure why doesnt it use Recuperate, code seems fine, disabled SnD unless there is Recuperate already up.
 
strix mate can you please tell me what have you modified yesterday and today to the CC? Because I've updated the SNV and now the bot moves slower, takes longer to respond to environment changes and sometimes runs away from the player he was attacking for no reason. Imo something in the recent chances is not good. Thanks!
 
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not sure but I think the menus are backwards.
I have to check do not use movement to get it to move.
 
I'm having issues. I tried this CC on a Target Dummy and also ran a BG with him just to make sure it wasn't an issue with me using a Target Dummy. I've also used it with LazyRaider and BGBot bases and run into the same issue. He doesn't use Hemmorhage very often. Throughout the BG and 2 attempts on a Dummy, he used Hemmorhage 3 times. I'm just guessing that this isn't right. Attaching log.View attachment 9-15-2011_8_22 AM 5112 Log.txt
 
Hayt said:
strix mate can you please tell me what have you modified yesterday and today to the CC? Because I've updated the SNV and now the bot moves slower, takes longer to respond to environment changes and sometimes runs away from the played he was attacking for no reason. Imo something in the recent chances is not good. Thanks!
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Investigating that

jtmccarthy83 said:
I'm having issues. I tried this CC on a Target Dummy and also ran a BG with him just to make sure it wasn't an issue with me using a Target Dummy. I've also used it with LazyRaider and BGBot bases and run into the same issue. He doesn't use Hemmorhage very often. Throughout the BG and 2 attempts on a Dummy, he used Hemmorhage 3 times. I'm just guessing that this isn't right. Attaching log.View attachment 27209
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Currently Hemorrhage is only used only in 2 cases:
1. when it cannot backstab (in front of target or using non-dagger main hand wep)
2. 30% bleed amplify goes off, it includes all of mechanics having this effect (Blood Frenzy/Mangle/Gore/Tendon Rip/Hemorrhage)

Also Rupture/Garrote are only used when there are no other bleeding effects on target, this one uses WoWSpellMechanic.Bleeding,
 
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strix said:
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Currently Hemorrhage is only used only in 2 cases:
1. when it cannot backstab (in front of target or using non-dagger main hand wep)
2. 30% bleed amplify goes off, it includes all of mechanics having this effect (Blood Frenzy/Mangle/Gore/Tendon Rip/Hemorrhage)

Also Rupture/Garrote are only used when there are no other bleeding effects on target, this one uses WoWSpellMechanic.Bleeding,
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So, am I good?
 
Yes just keeping the Hemo debuff on the target and not spamming is good, Backstab is way more dmg.
 
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