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How many bots do you think this computer can handle? Laptop 24/7 dedicated graphics.

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mightbaal

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I am going to buy this laptop tomorrow and I was wondering how many bots it could handle it is a I5 2.3 ghz (2.9 with turbo boost) with ddr3 ram 4gb 1066 mhz and a nvidea GT 540 with 1 gb ddr3 video ram. I have 2 bots running at the moment but I have 4 more local accounts that I am buying (meeting in person) with multiple level 85s on it for 70-80 bucks a account. I have to run this laptop with my bots cause my gaming desktop computer makes my room like 90 degerees when I sleep. Here is the link! I know wall mart but still its a good acer for the price. Please do not fill this thread about reliability it will have a 3 year replacement plan covered 100%!

Walmart.com: Acer Black 15.6" AS5750G-6496 Laptop PC with Intel Core i5-2410M Processor and Windows 7 Home Premium: Computers
 
i run 6 with this laptop just fine (it's my testing comp):

1.5 ghz Mobile (duo core)
4gb ddr 2
512 vid (shared ram) (nvidia 8600)
win 7
 
Quad core 2.4 ghz that graphics card scored over 1000 more points than the gt 540m in 3dmark06 plus 1333 mhz ddr3 I think that is my buy at that price! AMD Radeon HD 6750M
 
Anonuzer01 said:
Hmm, I'm looking at buying a new mid range laptop. Never been a big HP/Compaq fan but I think this one's worth looking at a bit further.
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Look at the specs on that thing it plays crisis 2 on high settings 38 fps sick!
 
If you want to make money botting then you'll need to look at the equation....

Profit = income - cost

Cost in this case consists of:
- Monthly WoW fee
- Fee for using the bot
- Hardware cost (once, divided by lifetime)
- Cost of running the hardware (mostly electricity)

To maximize profit you can only change the hardware cost and cost of running the hardware. So the best options are:
- Get cheap hardware *or* get hardware that will last long
- Get hardware that uses as little energy as possible

You can't "get hardware that lasts long" as all brands are pretty much equal there. Even a laptop of the worst brand will last you way longer then the hardware will be feasible for running WoW. So simply get the cheapest hardware that will still do the job.
There's a *LOT* of difference in the electricity bills for the different laptops. You can get netbooks that will use less then 15 watts, you can get beasts that will use over 150 watts.

When botting, the most important thing you need to realize, hardware wise, is that:
- Processor power is unimportant unless you want to bot raids. As Kick proves: You can run 6 bots on an "ancient" 1.5Ghz processor
- Graphics power is of little importance unless you want to watch the bots. Intel integrated graphics won't do but AMD integrated graphics are more then enough
- Memory is what you want.

Looking at all that, AMD currently has a really great offer with it's Llano APUs. They are combined CPU/GPU systems with very low power demand. The slowest Llano APU will be more then enough to run a number of bots at a very low power demand. If you can find yourself a laptop with an AMD A4 processor and at least 4GB of RAM you will have the cheapest system with the lowest running cost capable of running 4+ bots.
The HP laptop mentioned is still a bit high on spec. The A8 is the top-of-the-line for AMDs APUs at the moment. It's a good choice but if you can get a lower spec machine for less money then it would be a better deal for this endeavor.
(example: HP - Pavilion Laptop / AMD A4 Processor / 15.6" Display / 4GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive - Charcoal Gray - g6-1b60us)
 
Croga said:
If you want to make money botting then you'll need to look at the equation....

Profit = income - cost

Cost in this case consists of:
- Monthly WoW fee
- Fee for using the bot
- Hardware cost (once, divided by lifetime)
- Cost of running the hardware (mostly electricity)

To maximize profit you can only change the hardware cost and cost of running the hardware. So the best options are:
- Get cheap hardware *or* get hardware that will last long
- Get hardware that uses as little energy as possible

You can't "get hardware that lasts long" as all brands are pretty much equal there. Even a laptop of the worst brand will last you way longer then the hardware will be feasible for running WoW. So simply get the cheapest hardware that will still do the job.
There's a *LOT* of difference in the electricity bills for the different laptops. You can get netbooks that will use less then 15 watts, you can get beasts that will use over 150 watts.

When botting, the most important thing you need to realize, hardware wise, is that:
- Processor power is unimportant unless you want to bot raids. As Kick proves: You can run 6 bots on an "ancient" 1.5Ghz processor
- Graphics power is of little importance unless you want to watch the bots. Intel integrated graphics won't do but AMD integrated graphics are more then enough
- Memory is what you want.

Looking at all that, AMD currently has a really great offer with it's Llano APUs. They are combined CPU/GPU systems with very low power demand. The slowest Llano APU will be more then enough to run a number of bots at a very low power demand. If you can find yourself a laptop with an AMD A4 processor and at least 4GB of RAM you will have the cheapest system with the lowest running cost capable of running 4+ bots.
The HP laptop mentioned is still a bit high on spec. The A8 is the top-of-the-line for AMDs APUs at the moment. It's a good choice but if you can get a lower spec machine for less money then it would be a better deal for this endeavor.
(example: HP - Pavilion Laptop / AMD A4 Processor / 15.6" Display / 4GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive - Charcoal Gray - g6-1b60us)
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So your saying that laptop has a CPU and gpu combined? I am way new to this type of thing... it still has a dedicated graphics card right? From what they say you can switch graphics to save on power and the battery will last longer this makes the laptop amazing cause if I ever want to game on it I can run top of the line games. It's a bot computer sure but I would love it to beable to do all sorts of things...
 
mightbaal said:
So your saying that laptop has a CPU and gpu combined? I am way new to this type of thing... it still has a dedicated graphics card right? From what they say you can switch graphics to save on power and the battery will last longer this makes the laptop amazing cause if I ever want to game on it I can run top of the line games. It's a bot computer sure but I would love it to beable to do all sorts of things...
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The AMD A-series is an APU. An APU is basically a CPU that has a GPU built in. Intel does this in their new line of Corei processors as well. Intel's processors are fully focussed on the CPU part and the GPU part is just an afterthought. This makes them useless for anything but desktop work (without Aero even). AMDs APUs are more balanced. The GPU of an AMD A4 is comparable to a low midrange dedicated graphics card (about as powerful as a Radeon HD55##). The A8 is about as powerful as a high midrangecard (think HD67## or something). The A8 can be combined with an extra dedicated GPU in CrossfireX to produce even more graphics power (comparable to HD68##)

The trick with the AMD A series is that the processor will simply disable (or down-clock) any part that isn't being used. So when you're running on normal desktop without any graphics applications, it will clock back the GPU part of the APU. When you only need a single thread on the CPU part it will disable all unused cores and clock back the one you're using when you don't need the power.

As said; if all you want to do is make money with botting, the A4 is the one to go for. If you want to use the laptop for other purposes as well, you may get better mileage out of the A8.
 
Croga said:
The AMD A-series is an APU. An APU is basically a CPU that has a GPU built in. Intel does this in their new line of Corei processors as well. Intel's processors are fully focussed on the CPU part and the GPU part is just an afterthought. This makes them useless for anything but desktop work (without Aero even). AMDs APUs are more balanced. The GPU of an AMD A4 is comparable to a low midrange dedicated graphics card (about as powerful as a Radeon HD55##). The A8 is about as powerful as a high midrangecard (think HD67## or something). The A8 can be combined with an extra dedicated GPU in CrossfireX to produce even more graphics power (comparable to HD68##)

The trick with the AMD A series is that the processor will simply disable (or down-clock) any part that isn't being used. So when you're running on normal desktop without any graphics applications, it will clock back the GPU part of the APU. When you only need a single thread on the CPU part it will disable all unused cores and clock back the one you're using when you don't need the power.

As said; if all you want to do is make money with botting, the A4 is the one to go for. If you want to use the laptop for other purposes as well, you may get better mileage out of the A8.
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Thank you for the information it says the A8 is clocked at 1.5 ghz quad core but 2.4 ghz turbo core now they say turbo core does this mean that its like a single core 2.4 ghz or a 2.4 ghz quad core? This new stuff amd came out with confuses the heck out of me?
 
mightbaal said:
Thank you for the information it says the A8 is clocked at 1.5 ghz quad core but 2.4 ghz turbo core now they say turbo core does this mean that its like a single core 2.4 ghz or a 2.4 ghz quad core? This new stuff amd came out with confuses the heck out of me?
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heh :) Don't worry, there's enough people here to help you ;)
What it means is that the processor has 4 cores. In normal operation those cores will run at 1.5Ghz. They can, however, be over- or underclocked based on demand. The maximum clock speed is 2.4Ghz. Every core can be clocked independantly. So basically:
- When you're just doing general, average work 1 core will be at 1.5Ghz, the other 3 cores will be idle.
- When you're doing low-demand multi-threaded work (like running multiple bots), all 4 cores will be running at 1.5Ghz.
- Should you want to do a single-threaded task that requires a lot of power, 1 core will go to 2.4Ghz. It's probable that normal system tasks will then run on another core that'll run at 1.5Ghz, the other 2 cores will be idle.
- Should you want to do multi-threaded work that requires a lot of power, multiple cores will go to 2.4Ghz (I'm not sure what the limits here are. I think the A-series aren't limited at all so all 4 will run at 2.4Ghz.)

The new Intel processors work similarly by the way. It's basically a question of keeping the power demand down by useing a low "cruise speed" but allowing for top performance by adding Turbo-mode. In Ye Olden Days (8088/80286) we used to have something similar (AT systems with Turbo button) albeit the reason for it was different; there used to be software that was unable to run at the high AT speeds so disabling Turbo would switch the system back to the 8Mhz 8088 speeds :)
(oh, by the way, yes, I am old :P)
 
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