[Guide/Setup] 4-man party setup for S11

[Tempest]

Ok, it seems 1.5 turns out to run well. This is about max I can do with 3k Para and the current class setup. Some of the better runs.
Probably highest DB'ed GRs ever done?

 

[BestWarOCE]

I'd say you're about at the limit until new META's become available

 

[dqtsf]

1.5 is working great Tempest. Rathma dps uses mages and simulacrum much better now. Thanks man.

I'm able to run 104-105 with my second rathma 2k para and crap gears (shared from my main). Still use Jess set on my second dps.

I'm using healing monk atm and use 40% damage reduction bracer in cube instead of Aquila, reduce reserved resource to 60 to allow monk spam mantra non stop. I've found the survival is more consistent. I barely see my followers hp fall below 60% at 105.

 

[dqtsf]

Has anyone found solution for item sharing in town? It hurts me when I saw those primals on my alt accounts, especially jeweries.

 

[Flying477]

@dqtsf when you run 100 speed do you really use endless walk set on dps or are you running HV and CoE?

 

[drizzle206]

@dqtsf when you run 100 speed do you really use endless walk set on dps or are you running HV and CoE?

you can check his planner on page 15... Endless walk set on dps

 

[FEDEZ]

Hi ALL. Im baCK from Holidays.
plugin 1.5 work very good thanks
Fedez

 

[dqtsf]

@dqtsf when you run 100 speed do you really use endless walk set on dps or are you running HV and CoE?

Endless set gives me more consistent results than HV

 

[Flying477]

you can check his planner on page 15... Endless walk set on dps

yeah i checked there but it seemed odd to me.

Endless set gives me more consistent results than HV

thanks for clarification. thoght HV would give faster results.

 

[pimpampum]

thanks for clarification. thoght HV would give faster results.

Hv+CoE + scythe + phylactery gives considerably better results than Jesseth/endless sets at 105+ farming. At 108+ is completely needed; the sets option doesn't have the damage output required to consistently farm them.

The HV+ CoE+scythe setup on both Rathmas also requires Decrepify and frailty for better results.(the less-resistant Rathma with Decrepify).

Switch Command Skeletons for Bone armor for activating the Scythe.

110 is, for me, the spot where those affixes than you can normally withstand -or even ignoreonce the team gets properly geared- start killing the rathmas. ( Arcane is the biggest offender). Might be worth changing some paragon to Vit, but, probably, I think it might be a better option (Xp wise) reducing the farming range to 108.

 

[dqtsf]

We're talking about speed 100 with znecro. For the meta which has monk in the party, HV + CoE is obviously stronger than Endless set.

 

[pimpampum]

@dqtsf I see! What would be your recommended use of the Znecro speed setup?

I mean, I can see the benefit for speedlevelling gems; but the "meta" setup is able to complete 105 with 10+ minutes remaining, which makes it better for paragon farming.

Or is it just intended to be an alternative, less powerful but fun?

 

[dqtsf]

If you could clear 105 with less than 5 mins average then I guess your paragon is 3000+, even with that high paragon the result is still impressive, mine is 6-8 mins. If that's the case then 100 speed is not for you anymore.

Not everyone started with 2000 or 3000+ paragon. I start with 2000+ on my main and 1200 on my subs. Running speed 95-100 until I have gears and para for the meta. You could think 95-100 speed as a stepping stone (less gear demand and fast). Now as I've met the requirement I don't run speed 100 anymore especially 1.5 version is working very smooth.

Off topic: I heard that after next patch Blizzard will put Diablo 3 in maintenance mode meaning there will be no major update in the future. Perhaps they want to invest their resources to new game like Diablo 4. If that true then I don't know what I bot for since I have almost every set primal and ton of mats to craft new weapon when the patch comes out.

 

[pimpampum]

Yeah, my paragon is 3000+ on all my bots atm. And it's not average, I would say 7-8 minutes is average, but the XP is way higher than farming 100's.
1.5 , specially with the fixes to rathma's standing still, works amazing.


D3 has been in maintenance mode for a while now! It's really dissapointing that no new update of any sort is gonna be announced an Blizzcon'17 ( extremely so after what almost all of us considered a very succesful DLC with the Necro).
I never thought it would take 1 year to rehash d2 models into d3 necro, but it did; probaby there are less than 5 people working in d3 now, seems the only explanation to the absolute lack of news.

Anyhow, you'll need to refarm ALL UPDATED ITEMS in 2.6.1. The old versions of those items (including primals) won't get the increased legendary power values.

Example:
Bracers of the First Men

Hammer of the Ancients attacks 50% faster and deals 400-500% increased damage

No matter that you currently have a Primal version of those; with the patch, only those dropped after it is launched will have the 400-500 value, instead of 150-200 that is the current one.

Effectively rendering all old versions useless, including primals.

Power creep in Item version, creating the need to refarm them...

 

[BestWarOCE]

Also likely new meta, so need to farm new gear for new characters anyway

 

[dqtsf]

Thats why I put all my shards to set items now because sets are always retroactive.

Refarming weapons is no big deal. The only thing that concern me is I have to refarm primal wand of woh, one of the rarest weapon in the game and flash fire is my favourite build of all time.

 

[destroyer57]

Hi, 1.5 runs really well. Now doing consistently 95s in 9 minutes. Doing 100s in 12-14 minutes with a aproximately 80% of success.

As you all say, now it's better option to spend shards on set items only. There are a lot of legendary items that we'll have to farm again. Exactly, 56 items.

 

[DiscoDancer]

First, thank ZDL so much for fixing up the routines.

Second, I would like to share my team speed farming 100 on my 3 years old laptop.

1. zBarb: https://www.d3planner.com/715052400 (Tempest Routine)

2. zWiz: https://www.d3planner.com/930684837 (ZDL routine)

3. zNecro: https://www.d3planner.com/491299447 (ZDL routine fixed bonespear. Thanks)

4. DPS Necro: https://www.d3planner.com/799924759 (ZDL routine fixed Blood Rush. Thanks)

Some random result. This setup is for speed 100 only for higher rift please try Tempest's toon.

Tips: Turn off all area damage on zdps and uncheck use paragon point in trinity to improve performance especially corpselance lagging as fuck.

Happy botting.

I'm not sure the znecro works as intended. The blood sucker skill isn't used most of the time, maybe even not at all. When frozen land is down the bot doesn't spam spear even with close to full essence. Using latest version. Anything I'm missing to make it work? The bot could have frozen land up 247 if it took advantage of the spear.

 

[dqtsf]

I'm not sure the znecro works as intended. The blood sucker skill isn't used most of the time, maybe even not at all. When frozen land is down the bot doesn't spam spear even with close to full essence. Using latest version. Anything I'm missing to make it work? The bot could have frozen land up 247 if it took advantage of the spear.

My znecro spam spear and LotD 24/7. Use this fixed spear version from ZDL.

If your team all have 2000+ para and your dam dealers (2 rathma) sheet dps above 3.5m with around 50cdr, I would recommend swap to monk setup for 100+ for more exp efficient.

 

[DiscoDancer]

Thank you very much! You're amazing.

The barb and monk build on op correct? I'm currently using ur build on page 15.