[Necromancer] Rathma Faceroll Glass Cannon GR 100+

[mezz0]

Im getting rekt in 85s
And my stats are even better:

Paragon 1000
Int - 13k
DPS - 2m
Toughness - 80 million
Recovery - 3 million

CHC - 55%
CHD - 470%
AD - 50%
CD - 18%
20% physical
30% Skeletal damage
AS - 2.0

Why is your INT so low ? my int is at 16,155
(that alone increases my dmg 3000% more then yours)

 

[Proletar]

Why is your INT so low ? my int is at 16,155
(that alone increases my dmg 3000% more then yours)

I need some better gem enchants on my gear. Mainly got 300+ int on each.
Other than that I still got 4 non-ancient, therefore no gem enchant. So thats is easy 1200 int more.

But I still got 500k more dmg than you. Yet you can farm GR85, and get rekt

 

[mezz0]

All my gear is ancient (one primal) with gem upgrades around 70. my own gems are 80ish

Since trinity/DB tends to facehug, I opted for a very high crowdcontrol reduction (almost 70%); add increased pickup range to that, max avoidance and I don't tend to observe much issues.. not saying it is flawless, my deaths is at 4/hour; but good enough to immediately pick up after death and not waste the keystone.

my current biggest enemies are hellwitches and those stupid flame belching forges.

EDIT: on my GR85's I generally have about 6-8 minutes left. I can go higher, but tend to notice my time gets a lot worse when I do.

 

[ReddeR]

All my gear is ancient (one primal) with gem upgrades around 70. my own gems are 80ish

Since trinity/DB tends to facehug, I opted for a very high crowdcontrol reduction (almost 70%); add increased pickup range to that, max avoidance and I don't tend to observe much issues.. not saying it is flawless, my deaths is at 4/hour; but good enough to immediately pick up after death and not waste the keystone.

my current biggest enemies are hellwitches and those stupid flame belching forges.

EDIT: on my GR85's I generally have about 6-8 minutes left. I can go higher, but tend to notice my time gets a lot worse when I do.

Can u share u settings please ?

 

[mezz0]

avoidance all at max, rest set to below;
if there is something specific you want to see, just ask!

 

[peterswe]

I love how some people try to discredit others and say "No way you did a GR100, that's impossible with this bot", and then they come back a week later with better gear and brag "Yeah, I'm working on GR100 now".

Many users on this forum talk crap to others simply because they can't do what others can.

I'm looking at you Amaso. Last week you said I didn't do 100 because bot couldn't handle it, but now all of a sudden its possible because you got to that point?

 

[ReddeR]

I love how some people try to discredit others and say "No way you did a GR100, that's impossible with this bot", and then they come back a week later with better gear and brag "Yeah, I'm working on GR100 now".

Many users on this forum talk crap to others simply because they can't do what others can.

I'm looking at you Amaso. Last week you said I didn't do 100 because bot couldn't handle it, but now all of a sudden its possible because you got to that point?

I think bot can get 110gr if u get all primal ancient equip with perfect needed stats xD

3 day ago i do 75 gr
now i test on 90 and i think bot can do more

 

[Recklessness]

No one is jealous, people want advice because they actually believe the nonsense. You get 1 shot by anything at gr 105, given the nature of the tiles, avoidance not working properly and esoteric not used because you need the dps to clear the rift you dont run them consistently.

You also realize that there are only 170 people in the world that are grift 105+ on the season leader board right? You can just take a look at the ladder at those ranks and see how many players are running a Rathma build. Clearing a 105 manually consistently would be a workout and a half.

You must kidding right? If you have enough dps, dying isnt a big problem...god why i try to talk to you Oô You're just a simply dumbass

 

[Amaso]

I love how some people try to discredit others and say "No way you did a GR100, that's impossible with this bot", and then they come back a week later with better gear and brag "Yeah, I'm working on GR100 now".

Many users on this forum talk crap to others simply because they can't do what others can.

I'm looking at you Amaso. Last week you said I didn't do 100 because bot couldn't handle it, but now all of a sudden its possible because you got to that point?

I was calling you out last week (rightfully) because you claimed you cleared a 100, and didn't mention that you manually played your character to control the bot to get it out of tough situations. I said that you should mention that because EVERYONE could probably clear 5+ levels higher than they are now if they are interacting w/ their bot to prevent it from backtracking, repeatedly dying, etc. Also a big difference if it takes 20 tries to clear a 100 then if you can clear it at a 40-50% clip.

One week makes a huge difference when the season is young and higher GR's become possible. I completed a 100 last night w/o touching the bot on the 2nd try -- not amazing tiles but didn't encounter many dangerous mobs so only died 4 times.

3.5k sheet w/ CoE + HV --- Zei's, Trapped, Enforcer --- 30% skeletal, 40% phys, 690k hp
1740p
Avoidance - maxxed on Grotesque, Plagued, Arcane, Morlu
Profile = 1.27

 

[ReddeR]

avoidance all at max, rest set to below;
if there is something specific you want to see, just ask!

I test this, and i have a very bad result
4 rift - 4 lost

With version from vasek all rift are closed perfectly. Link: v1.3.4f vasek
I try on gr90
My settings:

Spoiler: IMG

just try it, maybe that is better for you too

 

[mezz0]

I love how some people try to discredit others and say "No way you did a GR100, that's impossible with this bot", and then they come back a week later with better gear and brag "Yeah, I'm working on GR100 now".

Many users on this forum talk crap to others simply because they can't do what others can.

This!

And people forget you need to tailor your gear & skills to the bot, NOT the other way around!

I test this, and i have a very bad result
4 rift - 4 lost

With version from vasek all rift are closed perfectly. Link: v1.3.4f vasek
I try on gr90
My settings:
just try it, maybe that is better for you too

Thanks will give it a go!

 

[Amaso]

It's amazing how gear can change peoples minds about what is and what is not possible. I'd like to brag I just got GR101 hands free (didn't touch the bot) with 590K HP. He started dying on rift boss and I got nervous but he killed it. You said this was impossible last week. Oh well, lots of haters on here that automatically turn into believers once they get the right gear.

I didn't say it was impossible last week, just that it was extremely unlikely unless you were manually controlling the bot (you were and admitted it later) or you got back to back god maps... both of which should probably should be noted in your original post. Also, in a week's time, my damage has increased by 25%... so yes as each week passes, higher GR's become more believable and possible. The time frame matters, which is not a concept you seem to get.

My original complaint was that some people seem to view their bot's achievements as their own (which is weird unless you are the developer) and make posts w/o any sort of clarification on the circumstances... and then either exaggerate or outright lie about them to make themselves feel good about themselves and claim others are jealous of their achievements -- which is bizarre considering botting is not a personal achievement.

 

[peterswe]

I didn't say it was impossible last week, just that it was extremely unlikely unless you were manually controlling the bot (you were and admitted it later) or you got back to back god maps... both of which should probably should be noted in your original post. Also, in a week's time, my damage has increased by 25%... so yes as each week passes, higher GR's become more believable and possible. The time frame matters, which is not a concept you seem to get.

My original complaint was that some people seem to view their bot's achievements as their own (which is weird unless you are the developer) and make posts w/o any sort of clarification on the circumstances... and then either exaggerate or outright lie about them to make themselves feel good about themselves -- which is bizarre.

Yea it's funny it's almost as if you took my advice and went all damage and little health. You took issue with my 590k hp and the fact that I stopped it from backtracking, but since then I have done GR101 without touching the bot at all. Now all of a sudden you come back less than a week later with low hp and high damage and you are bragging about doing GR100. It just seems backwards, you were simply doubtful because you didn't have enough damage at the time, like many others in the thread.

 

[Recklessness]

Yea it's funny it's almost as if you took my advice and went all damage and little health. You took issue with my 590k hp and the fact that I stopped it from backtracking, but since then I have done GR101 without touching the bot at all. Now all of a sudden you come back less than a week later with low hp and high damage and you are bragging about doing GR100. It just seems backwards, you were simply doubtful because you didn't have enough damage at the time, like many others in the thread.

Thats it

 

[Amaso]

Yea it's funny it's almost as if you took my advice and went all damage and little health. You took issue with my 590k hp and the fact that I stopped it from backtracking, but since then I have done GR101 without touching the bot at all. Now all of a sudden you come back less than a week later with low hp and high damage and you are bragging about doing GR100. It just seems backwards, you were simply doubtful because you didn't have enough damage at the time, like many others in the thread.

Umm, my damage was the exact same as yours last week... and I'm assuming it's the same if not higher than yours today. And unlike you or some others try to claim, I don't think I'm better than you because of that.

Why do you continue to misrepresent or flat out lie about what I've said, or done, or taken issue with? It's because you can't win our argument without doing so.

I was trying an 800k (the only thing I changed was the 23% life socket in helm) health setup for less than a day to see if there was a breakpoint where I wouldn't get 1 shot by certain white mobs for farming, not for pushing. At GR100, there's essentially no difference between 590k and 690k since you get 1 shot by most things that connect anyways so I'm not sure what point your making about me taking your advice. I would love to get advice from others who are outperforming my botting profile but as someone who appears to be a serial liar, I'm going to be hesitant to take any of it from you at this point.

And once again, one week makes a huge difference in capabilities of what you can actually clear GR wise this early in the season. I'm not sure why this concept is so hard for you to understand and why you keep referring to standards that were realistic/unrealistic a week ago.

Anyways, I'm done replying to you for the sake of this thread. I've actually contributed to the thread and given people a benchmark for GR 100 with a bit of detail, unlike you and your buddy Recklessness who just demonize other people that want further details regarding stats and settings to guage what their bot should be doing... or who just want facts really.

For anyone that's interested:

GR 90 = 95% completion rate
GR 95= 70-75% completion rate
GR 100 = 25-33% completion rate

Estimated those percentages but you can check my stats and settings a couple of posts up to get a better feel for where you should be at once you reach my paragon.

 

[peterswe]

Umm, my damage was the exact same as yours last week... and I'm assuming it's the same if not higher than yours today. And unlike you or some others try to claim, I don't think I'm better than you because of that.

Why do you continue to misrepresent or flat out lie about what I've said, or done, or taken issue with? It's because you can't win our argument without doing so.

I was trying an 800k (the only thing I changed was the 23% life socket in helm) health setup for less than a day to see if there was a breakpoint where I wouldn't get 1 shot by certain white mobs for farming, not for pushing. At GR100, there's essentially no difference between 590k and 690k since you get 1 shot by most things that connect anyways so I'm not sure what point your making about me taking your advice. I would love to get advice from others who are outperforming my botting profile but as someone who appears to be a serial liar, I'm going to be hesitant to take any of it from you at this point.

And once again, one week makes a huge difference in capabilities of what you can actually clear GR wise this early in the season. I'm not sure why this concept is so hard for you to understand and why you keep referring to standards that were realistic/unrealistic a week ago.

Anyways, I'm done replying to you for the sake of this thread. I've actually contributed to the thread and given people a benchmark for GR 100 with a bit of detail, unlike you and your buddy Recklessness who just demonize other people that want further details regarding stats and settings to guage what their bot should be doing... or who just want facts really.

For anyone that's interested:

GR 90 = 95% completion rate
GR 95= 70-75% completion rate
GR 100 = 25-33% completion rate

Estimated those percentages but you can check my stats and settings a couple of posts up to get a better feel for where you should be at once you reach my paragon.

What am I lying about? I'm not lying about anything, just arguing with you since you changed your mind on what this bot can do.

Also you need to be careful with all the info you give out, that's why some people seem less "helpful" than others. You gave out your paragon and damage which are both extremely high, putting you in the top 50 paragon in americas and in the TOP 5 necro damage in americas. On top of that, you are posting on a botting forum using your battle.net tag. That is like #1 thing your not supposed to do. I don't think people get banned that way but at least you should be more careful.

 

[mwhaha]

Guys a reminder, i also read that on chinese forums, tps should be more than 30 , around 30-40 to avoid deaths, check that too.

 

[DaveJuni]

Ok, so after turning off the globe collection in Trinitys general settings entirely (had it set to go for neph and greater rift globes), the bot is behaving a lot better.

Sure, it does miss some globes here and there but it makes up for that with the speed it is progressing with.

 

[DiscoDancer]

Umm, my damage was the exact same as yours last week... and I'm assuming it's the same if not higher than yours today. And unlike you or some others try to claim, I don't think I'm better than you because of that.

Why do you continue to misrepresent or flat out lie about what I've said, or done, or taken issue with? It's because you can't win our argument without doing so.

I was trying an 800k (the only thing I changed was the 23% life socket in helm) health setup for less than a day to see if there was a breakpoint where I wouldn't get 1 shot by certain white mobs for farming, not for pushing. At GR100, there's essentially no difference between 590k and 690k since you get 1 shot by most things that connect anyways so I'm not sure what point your making about me taking your advice. I would love to get advice from others who are outperforming my botting profile but as someone who appears to be a serial liar, I'm going to be hesitant to take any of it from you at this point.

And once again, one week makes a huge difference in capabilities of what you can actually clear GR wise this early in the season. I'm not sure why this concept is so hard for you to understand and why you keep referring to standards that were realistic/unrealistic a week ago.

Anyways, I'm done replying to you for the sake of this thread. I've actually contributed to the thread and given people a benchmark for GR 100 with a bit of detail, unlike you and your buddy Recklessness who just demonize other people that want further details regarding stats and settings to guage what their bot should be doing... or who just want facts really.

For anyone that's interested:

GR 90 = 95% completion rate
GR 95= 70-75% completion rate
GR 100 = 25-33% completion rate

Estimated those percentages but you can check my stats and settings a couple of posts up to get a better feel for where you should be at once you reach my paragon.

If you don't want to get 1 shot by most mobs, you need to get melee + damage reduction on chest, bracers, shield and amulet. Then secondary rolls you need physical resistance since most of the 1 shot potential is from succubus, spear throwers, etc. You can get some fire also to prevent mages from 1 shotting u. At about 2600 resistance you can take a couple hits without dying. Also run enchantress with the armor buff. She can cc really well and keep u safe when her cooldowns are up.

Btw it's easier to test that out in turbohud, if you load up ur hero and TH, you can see what your effective hp changes to.

Guys a reminder, i also read that on chinese forums, tps should be more than 30 , around 30-40 to avoid deaths, check that too.

How did you get trinity to set tps that high?

Suppose in the necro routine is written when to collect health globes when you have a health alert! This code and Trinity's collecting schema don't love each other!

Disable the Trinity one and only have progress Globes on.

 

[mwhaha]

Suppose in the necro routine is written when to collect health globes when you have a health alert! This code and Trinity's collecting schema don't love each other!