Best combat routine/class for high, consistent, GR farming?

[CrabyCake]

The *nerf*-and yes, it was a nerf-dropped my max GR on my necro from GR 91 to GR 86. Still not bad. Having said that, hydra wizard still seems to be the fastest botting build available, running GR 70 in 4.X minutes average for me.

Happen to have a forum post about using that wiz build?

 

[DiscoDancer]

I did give you a link to exactly what I have on, haha

https://www.d3planner.com/509903323

Hey, okay i'm going to go step by step through ur gear/rolls

Helm, u need to get a helm with vit. all resit does nothing for int heros, you get passive all resist from int. You need armor/vit. Even a none ancient helm that has int/vit/6CHC is better than that one.

Shoulders, roll off CD for life% or lance, he doesn't really require cdr that much. The base cdr is more than enough for the bot.

Chest, roll off lance for life or armor, depending on how low/high your total life is. If you have around 800k-1Mil, roll armor and vice versa if you have below roll life. Dont need diamond in chest, int does the trick.

Amulet is okay, obviously you want int+CHD+CHC, cold percent is nice for manual play. But the bot doesn't utilize lance well enough for it to be of great value on the amulet.

You NEED!! Ancient parthan defenders on bracers. The bone armor does a mini stun which procs them to increase your survivability.

armor > all resist on belt.

Rings are hard to find, urs are pretty good. Ancient + CHC + CHD + socket is the dream

pants are fine, boots are fine.

You rolled attack speed on weapon, which is wrong for the build. The weapon Reilena's Shadowhook gives you a huge damage buff based on the Max essence you have. So you lost + 20% extra damage by not rolling it max as secondary. Also put 50 paragon into it.

I'd take off blood is power for final service. And i'd take off frozen land for Frailty and Aura of Frailty.

Settings, in routine i have cluster set to 9.

I have custom elites clicked, rare/champions. Avoid minions + juggernauts in Grifts.

Avoidance molten core 100 percent 1.5 distance. The other settings you'll have to tweak around for your char. General rule for this character is, around 2600 resist you dont take much damage from the afix. At 2200 it gets a bit spicy, 2400 avg is a good place to be at.

Dont use that build for regular rifts, i'ts slow as hell and awful. Make sure you have a nice and swift one for regular rifts, dont gamble weapons/rings/amulets in the begging. Get basic ancient gear, pants + chest + helm etc, then go for harder to find items like gloves, weapons etc. Weapons you should just gather the material and craft them when you can craft like 40 of them. Until you have good ancient gear, dont bother rolling too much on low tier gear, waste of money and materials. For the helm, you can just reroll a set item you find until you get a helm, it's a bit costly but a lot quicker. All resist basically gives you nothing on the helm. So you have int + CDC only which is hard times.

 

[CrabyCake]

Hey, okay i'm going to go step by step through ur gear/rolls

Helm, u need to get a helm with vit. all resit does nothing for int heros, you get passive all resist from int. You need armor/vit. Even a none ancient helm that has int/vit/6CHC is better than that one.

Shoulders, roll off CD for life% or lance, he doesn't really require cdr that much. The base cdr is more than enough for the bot.

Chest, roll off lance for life or armor, depending on how low/high your total life is. If you have around 800k-1Mil, roll armor and vice versa if you have below roll life. Dont need diamond in chest, int does the trick.

Amulet is okay, obviously you want int+CHD+CHC, cold percent is nice for manual play. But the bot doesn't utilize lance well enough for it to be of great value on the amulet.

You NEED!! Ancient parthan defenders on bracers. The bone armor does a mini stun which procs them to increase your survivability.

armor > all resist on belt.

Rings are hard to find, urs are pretty good. Ancient + CHC + CHD + socket is the dream

pants are fine, boots are fine.

You rolled attack speed on weapon, which is wrong for the build. The weapon Reilena's Shadowhook gives you a huge damage buff based on the Max essence you have. So you lost + 20% extra damage by not rolling it max as secondary. Also put 50 paragon into it.

I'd take off blood is power for final service. And i'd take off frozen land for Frailty and Aura of Frailty.

Settings, in routine i have cluster set to 9.

I have custom elites clicked, rare/champions. Avoid minions + juggernauts in Grifts.

Avoidance molten core 100 percent 1.5 distance. The other settings you'll have to tweak around for your char. General rule for this character is, around 2600 resist you dont take much damage from the afix. At 2200 it gets a bit spicy, 2400 avg is a good place to be at.

Dont use that build for regular rifts, i'ts slow as hell and awful. Make sure you have a nice and swift one for regular rifts, dont gamble weapons/rings/amulets in the begging. Get basic ancient gear, pants + chest + helm etc, then go for harder to find items like gloves, weapons etc. Weapons you should just gather the material and craft them when you can craft like 40 of them. Until you have good ancient gear, dont bother rolling too much on low tier gear, waste of money and materials. For the helm, you can just reroll a set item you find until you get a helm, it's a bit costly but a lot quicker. All resist basically gives you nothing on the helm. So you have int + CDC only which is hard times.

Thanks for spending the time writing all this up.

Yea, some of the rolls are for a corpse explosion build. But sadly, even my Wiz with worse gear is better than this Necro.

 

[steelseries]

MH 5+3 Wiz Hydra
just GR but without keys
you could see this cause of the low xp it is t13
never reached higher XP
Gr 84
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Runs count: 67
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run time: 0:17:34
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Average run time: 0:08:15
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best run time: 0:03:42
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse run time: 0:19:50
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run XP Gained: 13.799.898.106
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run / Hour: 47.108.019.869
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP Gained: 2.211.743.530.753
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP / Hour: 239.834.912.364
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 811.744.767.629
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 6.780.518.658
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Single run: 85.134.645.812
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 2.241.600.426

but now i go higher to gr95 to get higher augments with 111
my bot is full primal +13 times augments above 100
Int is 30000
Para >3500
dmg in profil above 5,5

 

[juxta]

MH 5+3 Wiz Hydra
just GR but without keys
you could see this cause of the low xp it is t13
never reached higher XP
Gr 84
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Runs count: 67
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run time: 0:17:34
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Average run time: 0:08:15
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best run time: 0:03:42
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse run time: 0:19:50
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run XP Gained: 13.799.898.106
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run / Hour: 47.108.019.869
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP Gained: 2.211.743.530.753
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP / Hour: 239.834.912.364
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 811.744.767.629
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 6.780.518.658
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Single run: 85.134.645.812
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 2.241.600.426

but now i go higher to gr95 to get higher augments with 111
my bot is full primal +13 times augments above 100
Int is 30000
Para >3500
dmg in profil above 5,5

Can you link your build mate?

 

[1piece]

Haven't really tried Necro (no gear), but so far with deck'd out LoN Crusader with plvl 2300+ can do gr 75-80 at 7-9 minute per run, I'd say this is the most efficient build out of all other class, and most efficient I'd still say it's GR70, around 5 min per run. All other class that either kills too much trash (Waste time) or Kill too little of it due to excessive teleport/vault moves. Gonna wait til next season when necro settles down then try it probably.

But then to be fair, I've ran 2 month on LoN Crusader and only a week'ish with Wiz / DH / Barb / WD and haven't really try all builds with them.

 

[steelseries]

My t13 and Gr90 Run with Necro

[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Runs count: 3
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run time: 0:12:32
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Average run time: 0:10:36
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best run time: 0:07:55
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse run time: 0:12:32
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run XP Gained: 59.509.116.539
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run / Hour: 284.555.583.211
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP Gained: 78.849.117.978
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP / Hour: 148.762.001.469
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 284.555.583.211
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 13.727.477.471
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Single run: 59.509.116.539
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 2.593.757.448

 

[emolol]

My t13 and Gr90 Run with Necro

[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Runs count: 3
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run time: 0:12:32
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Average run time: 0:10:36
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best run time: 0:07:55
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse run time: 0:12:32
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run XP Gained: 59.509.116.539
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] This run / Hour: 284.555.583.211
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP Gained: 78.849.117.978
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Total XP / Hour: 148.762.001.469
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 284.555.583.211
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 13.727.477.471
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Best XP / Single run: 59.509.116.539
[Trinity 2.260.6] [Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 2.593.757.448

could you link your build and combat routine you are using? My necro really struggling to clear GR80 even though i have all the gear i need for it and can easily clear it when playing by hand