Best EXP/Hour... way down

[Duditz]

Before season 7 and the changes to grift exp after 70 I was averaging about 160-180b with LoN Sader. The best I can achieve now is ~115. Is anyone achieving near the 150b mark?

 

[qvazmir]

Before season 7 and the changes to grift exp after 70 I was averaging about 160-180b with LoN Sader. The best I can achieve now is ~115. Is anyone achieving near the 150b mark?

I could average at 120-150b with lon this season, ~~1300paragon @ gr 70, but I can't with the newest trinity. The simplified UI doesn't allow me to tweak the targeting enough, so for LoN i'm staying with the older version.

 

[boynextdoor]

this season i got anywhere from 220-250b/hr on seasons. gr 73-74.

The trick now is to run teh rifts as fast as possible as opposed to milking keys and not picking up progress orbs.

Have to set your trinity to ignore trash and just blast elites only. Latest trinity beta wont do that so make sure you save an older copy of trinity - like the one on the forums currently - and hope it works for next season.

 

[Duditz]

this season i got anywhere from 220-250b/hr on seasons. gr 73-74.

The trick now is to run teh rifts as fast as possible as opposed to milking keys and not picking up progress orbs.

Have to set your trinity to ignore trash and just blast elites only. Latest trinity beta wont do that so make sure you save an older copy of trinity - like the one on the forums currently - and hope it works for next season.

250?! I'm assuming that's with LoN Sader... seems pretty crazy. I'll checkout release Trinity and see if that helps. I'm currently using SVN. I'm also sceptical of Trinity Stats...

 

[qvazmir]

250?! I'm assuming that's with LoN Sader... seems pretty crazy. I'll checkout release Trinity and see if that helps. I'm currently using SVN. I'm also sceptical of Trinity Stats...

It's with LoN and trinity before the simplified settings, with pools im guessing, and about perfect gear?

 

[boynextdoor]

It's with LoN and trinity before the simplified settings, with pools im guessing, and about perfect gear?

correct. Finished ~top 10 world to be vague. So results will vary based on gear paragon and gems. But yeah that was done this season and I didn't even create a character until week 2.

 

[Duditz]

Welp I still cant come close to 200 let along 250... 1600+ Paragon running Grift 74 in about ~6-7 minutes...

Still sitting @ 130ish. I am missing a thorns roll on my amulet... is that seriously setting me back? Also, which build are you using? I can see how a great In-Geom would be awesome if you did enough damage without CoE Phys rotation.

With trin .668 there is a "No Trash" option that is working well.

Enlighten me pleaaaase.

 

[boynextdoor]

Welp I still cant come close to 200 let along 250... 1600+ Paragon running Grift 74 in about ~6-7 minutes...

Still sitting @ 130ish. I am missing a thorns roll on my amulet... is that seriously setting me back? Also, which build are you using? I can see how a great In-Geom would be awesome if you did enough damage without CoE Phys rotation.

With trin .668 there is a "No Trash" option that is working well.

Enlighten me pleaaaase.

You want to be doing 3 minute average clears. The change to xp makes it so 99% of your xp comes from the close.

In-geom is best in slot for botting.

Set bot to only kill elites, do not wait for coe rotation but keep coe in cube because you might as well

missing 9500 thorns is a lot. its also hard to say what you should be getting because gem levels etc make a difference as well.

Try botting 70s or whatever tier you can clear in 3 minutes

Make sure you have "search for xp pools" on in your settings as well. At 1600 paragon you will be spending a lot of time in torment rifts because you will lose pools faster but in the end its worth it. As you gain more paragon your pools last longer which means more time in grs and less time in torment rifts.

edit: for build. do what you see on solo leaderboards but change condemn vacuum for laws of valor wings of angel and wear nemesis bracers. make sure you dont have any paragon into resource since your build doesnt use any.

 

[pugger]

You want to be doing 3 minute average clears.. The change to xp makes it so 99% of your xp comes from the close

In-geom is best in slot for botting.

Set bot to only kill elites, do not wait for coe rotation but keep coe in cube because you might as well

missing 9500 thorns is a lot. its also hard to say what you should be getting because gem levels etc make a difference as well.

Try botting 70s or whatever tier you can clear in 3 minutes

Make sure you have "search for xp pools" on in your settings as well. At 1600 paragon you will be spending a lot of time in torment rifts because you will lose pools faster but in the end its worth it. As you gain more paragon your pools last longer which means more time in grs and less time in torment rifts.

edit: for build. do what you see on solo leaderboards but change condemn vacuum for laws of valor wings of angel and wear nemesis bracers. make sure you dont have any paragon into resource since your build doesnt use any.

Do you mean check off find exp shrines? I dont see an option for pools only shrines. Also I am a witch doc helltooth garg. Are you saying I should be doing a GR lvl that I can clear in 3 minutes? That will be low like 70 or something at max based on the spec. but gear is super good near perfect.

Also what do you mean by "The change to xp makes it so 99% of your xp comes from the close". What exp change and what is "close"?

 

[tCLOCK]

You want to be doing 3 minute average clears. The change to xp makes it so 99% of your xp comes from the close.

In-geom is best in slot for botting.

Set bot to only kill elites, do not wait for coe rotation but keep coe in cube because you might as well

missing 9500 thorns is a lot. its also hard to say what you should be getting because gem levels etc make a difference as well.

Try botting 70s or whatever tier you can clear in 3 minutes

Make sure you have "search for xp pools" on in your settings as well. At 1600 paragon you will be spending a lot of time in torment rifts because you will lose pools faster but in the end its worth it. As you gain more paragon your pools last longer which means more time in grs and less time in torment rifts.

edit: for build. do what you see on solo leaderboards but change condemn vacuum for laws of valor wings of angel and wear nemesis bracers. make sure you dont have any paragon into resource since your build doesnt use any.

Don't see how that is possible. Please post a screen shot of your 220-250b/hr. Also have done numerious tests and In-geom was the worst weapon to use. Swiftmount with steed charge/endurance posted the fastest run. Again you always post about your exp/hr but never prove it true by posting screen shots.

 

[pugger]

Don't see how that is possible. Please post a screen shot of your 220-250b/hr. Also have done numerious tests and In-geom was the worst weapon to use. Swiftmount with steed charge/endurance posted the fastest run. Again you always post about your exp/hr but never prove it true by posting screen shots.

I am a WD and im doing the tips he said. I am at 192bil hour. Thats double of what I was before. The pool trick is adding in tons of exp. I am not doing 3 min clears of gr 72 but its about 3 min clears of normal rifts to find pools. My gr clears of 72 are like 7-8 minutes. I just did what he said about an hour ago. I still got some messing around to do but its going super well now.

 

[boynextdoor]

Don't see how that is possible. Please post a screen shot of your 220-250b/hr. Also have done numerious tests and In-geom was the worst weapon to use. Swiftmount with steed charge/endurance posted the fastest run. Again you always post about your exp/hr but never prove it true by posting screen shots.

Currently trying some new stuff but here is my initial run. I'll update it when I stop the bot in the next 8 hours so you can see the effect over time. The reason why I am showing this first even though its 2 runs is because this is what you get in a rift with pools. I had two runs worth of pools on my character before he had to farm more but it shows you that even the worst gr xp is above what you think is impossible. The discrepancy between 220-250 comes from RNG in how many pools you get over 8 hours and how many conduits you get in 8 hours. But like I said I'll post up the results tomorrow with a screen shot.

[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 2
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:04:30
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:05:26
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:04:30
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:06:22
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 26,157,087,469
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 347,732,793,140
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 53,034,242,990
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 292,378,518,496
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 347,732,793,140
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 253,160,775,385
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 26,877,155,521
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 26,157,087,469

 

[boynextdoor]

Don't see how that is possible. Please post a screen shot of your 220-250b/hr. Also have done numerious tests and In-geom was the worst weapon to use. Swiftmount with steed charge/endurance posted the fastest run. Again you always post about your exp/hr but never prove it true by posting screen shots.

There you go. Tried doing a tier higher than I should have. Achieved 220b/hr over 143 runs. Pic includes build with ingeom. I'm going to delete the imgur in 24 hours.

EDIT: Removed image

[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 143
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:04:41
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:05:22
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:03:20
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:10:26
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 25,114,096,299
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 321,558,664,712
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 2,825,213,269,863
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 220,735,544,596
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 381,650,827,225
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 13,375,483,408
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 27,471,910,193
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 1,525,318,044

 

[tCLOCK]

There you go. Tried doing a tier higher than I should have. Achieved 220b/hr over 143 runs. Pic includes build with ingeom. I'm going to delete the imgur in 24 hours.

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[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 143
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:04:41
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:05:22
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:03:20
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:10:26
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 25,114,096,299
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 321,558,664,712
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 2,825,213,269,863
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 220,735,544,596
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 381,650,827,225
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 13,375,483,408
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 27,471,910,193
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 1,525,318,044

Ok I see your screen shot and see your exp but Im more amazed with your 143 runs!!! Since the last 2 trinity updates I've barely been able to do about 30-36 runs before getting stuck or getting navigation errors.

 

[boynextdoor]

Ok I see your screen shot and see your exp but Im more amazed with your 143 runs!!! Since the last 2 trinity updates I've barely been able to do about 30-36 runs before getting stuck or getting navigation errors.

I wasn't watching the bot run, but you can still see navigation errors being present. 0 deaths yet my fastest rift is 3:20 and slowest is 10:30.

From when I have watched it in the past, the buddy team never quite ironed out the A5 rift with all the portals, the one that looks like mathaels quest. If your bot lands on that one it will pretty much just spam a portal back and forth until you dc. Same with the one that looks like the A2 keywarden area, it goes to the south west and gets stuck on one of those corners of the wooden platforms.

Shit thats been around since at least s5 with this thing. but it is what it is.

 

[steelseries]

Paragon 2100
newest trinity-beta

LTK Monk

XP-POOL included
GR70
[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 1
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 21,515,211,306

 

[qvazmir]

Paragon 2100
newest trinity-beta

LTK Monk

XP-POOL included
GR70
[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 1
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:04:50
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 266,225,299,131
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 21,515,211,306
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 21,515,211,306

This doesn't show xp/h in any way. This shows xp on one run. It will be lower than 200/h when you farm for pools, get bad grift runs etc.

 

[steelseries]

yeah right but what is the problem? It will be lower. I think 150

 

[boynextdoor]

Latest beta trinity has finally beaten out the older trinity by ~5 bn/hr

Big thanks to the DB team for continuing to work on crusader and listening to our feedback.


[Adventurer][Rift] Runs count: 113
[Adventurer][Rift] This run time: 0:05:14
[Adventurer][Rift] Average run time: 0:05:33
[Adventurer][Rift] Best run time: 0:03:19
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse run time: 0:08:51
[Adventurer][Rift] This run XP Gained: 24,925,329,847
[Adventurer][Rift] This run / Hour: 285,168,676,078
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP Gained: 2,363,229,063,462
[Adventurer][Rift] Total XP / Hour: 225,795,583,189
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Hour (single run): 471,439,930,837
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Hour (single run): 17,407,038,444
[Adventurer][Rift] Best XP / Single run: 28,883,091,567
[Adventurer][Rift] Worse XP / Single run: 1,725,746,277

 

[Duditz]

@boynextdoor I seriously don't know how you are accomplishing this but I am impressed. 113 runs in a row is maybe the most impressive part but I still cant get anymore than 160b... Can I PM you my char profile so you can analyze it?