Information about Bans, Feedback #3 Update

[Aeon]

#1 Update:
After you have registered an account, create a character, enter the game and wait 1/2 hours inside "Tutorial" part, only then start leveling/questing.

#2 Update
Recently tested and confirmed, the most promising method for fresh accounts, is to manually get to level 20. (Questing) You may play via AB, but do not use any plugins.
Then at level 20, get patron and burn labor on crafting all the way to level 40-50.
In between all that, do various, random legit things. Only then start botting and transition to proxy.

#3 Update
When appealing, be persistent and try a couple of times before giving up on a permanent ban. (Make up stories) This method has shown to be effective as they sometimes seem to not be quite sure whether you've actually broken any rules at all, relying on an auto ban.
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After the recent amount of bans,
we've run a number of tests resulting in; (Done by Out & others)

More guidelines and test reports will be posted, so stay tuned!


​Accounts ran without proxy, have all had new IP's assigned from a dynamic pool.

95% of new accounts that do instantly start leveling or questing, get banned, even when doing so without Proxy/VPN/Bot.
But when appealing, there's a 99% chance that your account will get unbanned.

Accounts ran via Proxy/VPN (Without Bot), manually leveling or questing, do get banned permanently.

Accounts using AB to level or quest, but registered without proxy, as well launched via AB that way, get banned 95%.
But again, when appealing, there's a 50%+ chance of getting it unbanned.


Tests / Feedback:
Fresh accounts have not been able to get past level 20/30, in most cases they got banned even earlier. Some did and some did not even receive ban notification emails at all.

When reported in game, there's as well quite a high chance that you'll get an auto-ban. Appealing that, will in most cases get you unbanned.




We would appreciate your feedback, following the combination of precautions. As well your experiences so far!


1. When registering new accounts:

Run Firefox in Safe Mode - How to: http://www.wikihow.com/Start-Firefox-in-Safe-Mode

Clean browser cookies - How to: http://www.wikihow.com/Clear-Your-Browser's-Cookies

Disable WEBRTC (Only if using Proxy/VPN)

How to:
While connected to your Proxy/VPN, navigate to https://diafygi.github.io/webrtc-ips/. If you see your real IP in the results, that means it's leaked.

To disable WEBRTC in Firefox;

1. Navigate to about:config
2. Search for "media.peerconnection.enabled"
3. Set it to FALSE

To confirm that WEBRTC is disabled, navigate to https://www.browserleaks.com/webrtc.


2. When playing:

After you have registered an account, create a character, enter the game and wait 1/2 hours inside "Tutorial" part, only then start leveling/questing.

Using a combination of VMware and Proxy/ (VPN, connecting via default windows service). How to connect to VPN on windows: http://www.howtogeek.com/134046/how-to-connect-to-a-vpn-in-windows/



Posting feedback
When you have tested things, please do post it here with as many details as possible!

- Have you received an email notification when banned?
- Have you used VPN or Proxy? (Specify)
- How did you register your account?
- At which level did you get banned?
- Have you leveled manually or with bot?

- Any other specific methods that you have used?

 

[zoboroh1234]

95% chance.. really..? Where did you pull these numbers from?

I've botted with over 100 names since AA release.

I currently have - 12 - names I JUST leveled 1-50 this month without bans.

Level 1-20 questing = 1% ban chance
Level 20-50 botting mobs = 1% ban chance

You have to be caught by a GM, there is no auto ban script to catch you doing this..

I don't recommend questing beyond this since there seems to be a script catching people at 20-30, so maybe 50% ban chance doing that. But I haven't quested past 20 in months now and haven't had a single ban whenever I make new names.

 

[memothegreat]

95% chance.. really..? Where did you pull these numbers from?

I've botted with over 100 names since AA release.

I currently have - 12 - names I JUST leveled 1-50 this month without bans.

Level 1-20 questing = 1% ban chance
Level 20-50 botting mobs = 1% ban chance

You have to be caught by a GM, there is no auto ban script to catch you doing this..

I don't recommend questing beyond this since there seems to be a script catching people at 20-30, so maybe 50% ban chance doing that. But I haven't quested past 20 in months now and haven't had a single ban whenever I make new names.

Well you are wrong. last 2 weeks.. me and 2 of my friends kept trying to use quester. more than 20 accounts only 2 past level 20. there definelty is a autoban script. you can check other topics and you will see.

 

[zoboroh1234]

Well you are wrong. last 2 weeks.. me and 2 of my friends kept trying to use quester. more than 20 accounts only 2 past level 20. there definelty is a autoban script. you can check other topics and you will see.

Okay, so you're probably using IP's that are black listed then.. That's the only way you're going to get banned that quickly. It doesn't make me wrong when I'm clearly experiencing the opposite with a much larger test pool. From my experience, there are no 'scripts' for catching people botting level 1-20. This month and last month combined I made 20 names with fresh socks5 1-20 questing and then 20-50 using a grinding script. In October 2015 I made 20 names as well that I'm still botting purses with, no bans, putting me at 40 total.

So please tell me why I didn't have a single name banned? Sure, 20-30 there probably is a script.. every time I tried to quest past 20 it's about a 50% ban rate. But if I stop before 20 it's almost 0% unless a GM patrols by.

Actually, you should tell me why I've never had a name banned that only quests to 20, with a sample range of over 100, and over 200 if I add my friend; we have both been purse botting for over a year now. If it's suppose to be "95%" rate of being banned, I'm no where near those statistics..

Also, regarding why your IP might be black listed, I can throw out a guess. Did you and your friend perhaps keep using the same IP's after receiving bans? Perhaps you guys tried questing past 20, got banned, then kept making names?

 

[Aeon]

95% chance.. really..? Where did you pull these numbers from?

I've botted with over 100 names since AA release.

I currently have - 12 - names I JUST leveled 1-50 this month without bans.

Level 1-20 questing = 1% ban chance
Level 20-50 botting mobs = 1% ban chance

You have to be caught by a GM, there is no auto ban script to catch you doing this..

I don't recommend questing beyond this since there seems to be a script catching people at 20-30, so maybe 50% ban chance doing that. But I haven't quested past 20 in months now and haven't had a single ban whenever I make new names.

We've run a solid amount of tests and this is how it turned out. We're not talking about the results since AA release, but since AA 2.5 was released and slightly prior that.

Well, you're very wrong about those ratings. Check the results and methods again, if there are any that you have and we have no used, please do tell then, otherwise, it's solid.

Please don't be stating things you're not quite sure of, there's indeed a chance of being auto-banned. (A lot of people have been, from level 1 to 55).

Instead, please share your methods as stated to leave feedback, thanks!

 

[Aeon]

Okay, so you're probably using IP's that are black listed then.. That's the only way you're going to get banned that quickly. It doesn't make me wrong when I'm clearly experiencing the opposite with a much larger test pool. From my experience, there are no 'scripts' for catching people botting level 1-20. This month and last month combined I made 20 names with fresh socks5 1-20 questing and then 20-50 using a grinding script. In October 2015 I made 20 names as well that I'm still botting purses with, no bans, putting me at 40 total.

So please tell me why I didn't have a single name banned? Sure, 20-30 there probably is a script.. every time I tried to quest past 20 it's about a 50% ban rate. But if I stop before 20 it's almost 0% unless a GM patrols by.

Actually, you should tell me why I've never had a name banned that only quests to 20, with a sample range of over 100, and over 200 if I add my friend; we have both been purse botting for over a year now. If it's suppose to be "95%" rate of being banned, I'm no where near those statistics..

Also, regarding why your IP might be black listed, I can throw out a guess. Did you and your friend perhaps keep using the same IP's after receiving bans? Perhaps you guys tried questing past 20, got banned, then kept making names?

Even accounts with completely new IP's that have been leveled manually, have been banned, so explain that, stating you know so much about these things. Please do share every detail about how you got that going then Again, we're talking about time since AA 2.5 and slightly prior that..

 

[memothegreat]

Okay, so you're probably using IP's that are black listed then.. That's the only way you're going to get banned that quickly. It doesn't make me wrong when I'm clearly experiencing the opposite with a much larger test pool. From my experience, there are no 'scripts' for catching people botting level 1-20. This month and last month combined I made 20 names with fresh socks5 1-20 questing and then 20-50 using a grinding script. In October 2015 I made 20 names as well that I'm still botting purses with, no bans, putting me at 40 total.

So please tell me why I didn't have a single name banned? Sure, 20-30 there probably is a script.. every time I tried to quest past 20 it's about a 50% ban rate. But if I stop before 20 it's almost 0% unless a GM patrols by.

Actually, you should tell me why I've never had a name banned that only quests to 20, with a sample range of over 100, and over 200 if I add my friend; we have both been purse botting for over a year now. If it's suppose to be "95%" rate of being banned, I'm no where near those statistics..

Also, regarding why your IP might be black listed, I can throw out a guess. Did you and your friend perhaps keep using the same IP's after receiving bans? Perhaps you guys tried questing past 20, got banned, then kept making names?

we all have different ips. and its s not static in my country so it changes alot. and we still have our farming bots. we do mining coinpurse farming etc. they dont get banned (i personaly didnt get any ban on my main farming characters over a month now. it s all on same computer) but on same computers or diffent computers same ip or diffenrent ip. it doesnt matter we all tried it. if you create a new character and start leveling it will definetely get banned.


i also tested something that i would like to share. i leveled a new character with quester pluing to level 14 and stopped leveling for 1 week and didnt login it. And yesterday i started leveling it with quester again. it got banned on level 19.

 

[Aeon]

we all have different ips. and its s not static in my country so it changes alot. and we still have our farming bots. we do mining coinpurse farming etc. they dont get banned (i personaly didnt get any ban on my main farming characters over a month now. it s all on same computer) but on same computers or diffent computers same ip or diffenrent ip. it doesnt matter we all tried it. if you create a new character and start leveling it will definetely get banned.


i also tested something that i would like to share. i leveled a new character with quester pluing to level 14 and stopped leveling for 1 week and didnt login it. And yesterday i started leveling it with quester again. it got banned on level 19.

Interesting, we can assume then that the age of account counts as time being online maybe.

 

[memothegreat]

Interesting, we can assume then that the age of account counts as time being online maybe.

Definetly. i had an old account which was created 2-3 weeks before 2.5 patch. i was leveling it with quester. i stopped at 39 level and it kinda waited till this week. after 2.5 i didnt want to level it because i was sure it was gonna get banned so i didnt want to waste it. now we are in-short of accounts.. i decided to give it a try. i leveled it to 51 with quester without a problem this week. so it definelty is!

 

[simonedex]

News on ban: character lvl 15, manually lvled till lvl 7 to take the mount, then did lvl 15 in 7-8 days just gathering bundles; today after hit lvl 15 the ban arrived after 30 mins. I did appeal to Trion and they answered "3rd party program used, bla, bla bla,...".
Plugin used: new/old scarecrow.
Character lvl 50 same VPN and proxy, but legit lvled w/o AB till lvl 10 and then just lvled via burning labor with vocation tonic and worker compensation. Never banned, it went smooth from 10 to 50.
Clean proxy and clean VPN.
Actually i really think they have a sort of autoban and they can detect AB in some way, no matter if you use quester plugin or scarecrow or other ways, they can just detect AB while you're lvling.
All the old accunts previus 2.5 are good. Farming everything w/o any problem.

 

[Aeon]

Definetly. i had an old account which was created 2-3 weeks before 2.5 patch. i was leveling it with quester. i stopped at 39 level and it kinda waited till this week. after 2.5 i didnt want to level it because i was sure it was gonna get banned so i didnt want to waste it. now we are in-short of accounts.. i decided to give it a try. i leveled it to 51 with quester without a problem this week. so it definelty is!

Interesting, so that pretty much says that accounts after 2.5 only, are being affected.

 

[Aeon]

News on ban: character lvl 15, manually lvled till lvl 7 to take the mount, then did lvl 15 in 7-8 days just gathering bundles; today after hit lvl 15 the ban arrived after 30 mins. I did appeal to Trion and they answered "3rd party program used, bla, bla bla,...".
Plugin used: new/old scarecrow.
Character lvl 50 same VPN and proxy, but legit lvled w/o AB till lvl 10 and then just lvled via burning labor with vocation tonic and worker compensation. Never banned, it went smooth from 10 to 50.
Clean proxy and clean VPN.
Actually i really think they have a sort of autoban and they can detect AB in some way, no matter if you use quester plugin or scarecrow or other ways, they can just detect AB while you're lvling.
All the old accunts previus 2.5 are good. Farming everything w/o any problem.

Hey thanks for sharing, actually what they detect is plugins which anti-pattern is not good enough, easily flagged, not AB itself.

 

[simonedex]

Hey thanks for sharing, actually what they detect is plugins which anti-pattern is not good enough, easily flagged, not AB itself.

So what do you suggest to raise character over lvl15? I'v lost a lot of planter bots for these banwave

 

[Aeon]

So what do you suggest to raise character over lvl15? I'v lost a lot of planter bots for these banwave

Hey, check the first page, #2 Update, recently confirmed method of staying alive

 

[simonedex]

Oh thx a lot; i'll give it a try and post results

 

[laurentiuman]

really nice of you sharing this. I can tell you another method that worked for me.
To not get banned only gain max 10 levels in a 24h period. Also Don't plant/gather if you want to keep your accounts. I would always get banned for farming(sooner or later max was 3 weeks of farming) on accounts that were never even reported or even seen by players(illegal farming in really secluded spots)
And after getting banned on hundreds of accounts(each with different ip's) I can tell you, 100% sure they have a shit-load of retarded auto-ban scripts , so ppl that say they don't have autoban scripts clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[simonedex]

Ok this is the last char i do in this game, you really need to find a way to let ppl bot.
New character on new proxy, vpn etc..enetred in game, waited 3 hours in the prologue then done it manually. Quested slowly till lvl 15, interacted with other ppl, done parties for some quests, gone to mirage isle, so i did all like a normal player.
The ban arrived 16 mins after hitted lvl 15, then i sent a mail to trion and they unbanned me after 2 hours. Then i did lvl 16 and left the character logged in the night w/o using auto relog or anything...just logged in.
This morning i got the char banned and i contacted the support again and they said "use of 3rd party program, we will not reverse this decision etc..."
Thanks god i didn't pay another patron on this account.
Btw AB seems to be realy screwed at moment Trion CAN see u are using a 3rd program even if u did all "legit".
Really sad...

 

[simonedex]

Yesterday got another mass ban of 8 char, 6 of them created few time before 2.5. Never reported they were all lvl 32-36. They banned even a lvl 1 character i just used to...open a door....
Sad to say but i'm done with AB till it will be a bit safer to use. Never got these problems with others bots programs. Maybe you should contact some other guys to help you to improve AB.
Always used only old/new scarecrow to gather/plant bundle.

 

[rembrandt]

Yeah today banned 3old accounts + all new accountas also banned, so I dont know what to do

 

[kuri4]

Guys, i creat new char without archebuddy, i qusting him on my own, give him 2 apex and later in 1 day got banned and the reason of that was. "Your selected display name is the name of your character/and or in-game persona. The display/character name is not the same first and last name that is registered to the account."
Please can you explain me the reason of ban becouse i dont really understand it and what can i do for lvlup?