Focused Crusader Support (Read This If Your Crusader Is Being Stupid)

[Unknown Buddy]

The CR is definitely better than .19 no doubt. Its canceling the steed very often (probably intended so other skills get used) but it also seems to have a long-ish delay to recast the steed when everything is on CD (as if its waiting for something to come up). Sometimes with everything cooling down, but steed is not on cd, it will just auto attack instead of steeding.

[Trinity 2.14.22][Behavior] Fatal Error: Couldn't find a valid attack ability. Not enough resource for any abilities or all on cooldown
[Trinity 2.14.22][Behavior] If you get this message frequently, you should consider changing your build
[Trinity 2.14.22][Behavior] Perhaps you don't have enough critical hit chance % for your current build, or just have a bad skill setup?

Dont get that message too often, but it does happen. Its usually when steed is able to be cast and everything else is on CD. Just using a standard LoN build: http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69853-2-4-gr90-lon-bombardment?page=5

 

[Myriddan]

Grifting my character not spamming condemn

trinity .22 (your edited ver)

My setup: (Not ideal i know)
http://www.icy-veins.com/d3/crusader-endgame-holy-condemn-build-with-the-akkhan-set-patch-2-4 ,

 

[Myriddan]

never mind aoe count was reset in settings

 

[demonD]

not spam laws? only use consecration and reflect, never trigger laws entire run, any idea?

 

[Hultin]

Really excited to run some LoN action, doing 68s with .19 as invoker so if I can run same as LoN it'll be about 50% more exp I am sure (based on manual clears, done 78 on the char)

 

[jubisman]

Aside from the sometimes not finishing off elites and running away. I also noticed sometimes while fighting elites it doesn't attack at all unless coe is up.

That's what it's supposed to do, you know.

not spam laws? only use consecration and reflect, never trigger laws entire run, any idea?

Settings->Combat->Crusader->Use Laws Off CD

 

[demonD]

That's what it's supposed to do, you know.


Settings->Combat->Crusader->Use Laws Off CD

already check and uncheck then check again for couple times still acting like that, very strange it doesn't act this way with .19

 

[Krazydrummer]

Damn this new update makes it feel like a completely different bot for LoN.

I did some basic test runs:

2x Nephalim Torment 10 runs
1x Greater Rift 65
1x Greater Rift 70

It destroyed all of them! The nephalim rifts were fast and effecient. The greater rift 65 was SO easy for the bot. Prior to this update I was unable to safely bot past 65, I'd have to watch it and intervene sometimes when it was making questionable choices. This time I only touched the bot once and that was when it forgot to pickup the purple orbs after it ran away from a dying elite.

Greater rift 70 done in 8 mins. This bot quickly used the cooldowns perfectly didnt miss a single CoE cycle and only died three times, which was pretty good I'd say from previous runs. So the new ironskin/consecration works well for low health.

Great job! Looking forward to pushing higher rifts.

Only thing is that I noted that it had some issues with running through arcane beams on the ground. They hurt the crusader alot and it didnt really try to dodge them that well. But that might have nothing to do with crusader.

Edit: Haha I just realized it did those runs without any avoid AoE stuff enabled. Well GG just shows how much better the changes have been.

 

[vala]

As an Ivoker/Punish, it is mounting steed and walking around mobs till the spell is over. Is that supposed to happen? The rune for steed is endurance at this build...

 

[jubisman]

It's suppose to wait for CoE before using Cd's it's not however suppose to stop attacking all together that makes zero sense. Just a ton of downtime.

You can always uncheck 'wait for convention element' if you don't like it. I have to say again though, the build is based on burst damage, so Bombardment and Consecration should be cast on Physical.

already check and uncheck then check again for couple times still acting like that, very strange it doesn't act this way with .19

Weird. I'll try to reproduce this tomorrow.

Damn this new update makes it feel like a completely different bot for LoN.

I did some basic test runs:

2x Nephalim Torment 10 runs
1x Greater Rift 65
1x Greater Rift 70

It destroyed all of them! The nephalim rifts were fast and effecient. The greater rift 65 was SO easy for the bot. Prior to this update I was unable to safely bot past 65, I'd have to watch it and intervene sometimes when it was making questionable choices. This time I only touched the bot once and that was when it forgot to pickup the purple orbs after it ran away from a dying elite.

Greater rift 70 done in 8 mins. This bot quickly used the cooldowns perfectly didnt miss a single CoE cycle and only died three times, which was pretty good I'd say from previous runs. So the new ironskin/consecration works well for low health.

Great job! Looking forward to pushing higher rifts.

Only thing is that I noted that it had some issues with running through arcane beams on the ground. They hurt the crusader alot and it didnt really try to dodge them that well. But that might have nothing to do with crusader.

Edit: Haha I just realized it did those runs without any avoid AoE stuff enabled. Well GG just shows how much better the changes have been.

Awesome

As an Ivoker/Punish, it is mounting steed and walking around mobs till the spell is over. Is that supposed to happen? The rune for steed is endurance at this build...

What should SC - Endurance move like during battle? I thought Invoker sader was supposed to stay still in battle to maximize damage.

 

[vala]

What should SC - Endurance move like during battle? I thought Invoker sader was supposed to stay still in battle to maximize damage.

That's exactly the point, he is not stainding still. The bot starts to dance in the middle of the mobs with steed, and after steed is gone he comes back to the fight. Makes no sense, even more if i am using endurance, wich causes no damage at all.

 

[Hultin]

This is REALLY insane, done about a hour and a half of grifts now, on average before this it was about 10-12 minutes a rift, not seen a single of these surpass 5:30 total running poorly rolled LoN gear. Para visible on pic.

(Time of session in the map, so you can see it's a reasonable exp/hr) - Still tweaking but gettin' there

Since posting I've got another 4bn/hr out of it.

One thing though, is it hard to make it cast iron skin and bomb at 1sec left of lightning, otherwise 0.5-1 sec of bombs are "wasted" in fire element as they take time to land and the damage does NOT snapshot at the time of casting

 

[fanaticc]

This is REALLY insane, done about a hour and a half of grifts now, on average before this it was about 10-12 minutes a rift, not seen a single of these surpass 5:30 total running poorly rolled LoN gear. Para visible on pic.

(Time of session in the map, so you can see it's a reasonable exp/hr) - Still tweaking but gettin' there

Since posting I've got another 4bn/hr out of it.

Greetings men !
Can you post please you Settings in Combat and Misc please!!!! Need some help with this can you share?

 

[Hultin]

These are still being worked on, but these are roughly the ones from the screen (I am gonna work abit on Arcane avoidance as approx 50% of my deaths are due to Arcane)

 

[jubisman]

That's exactly the point, he is not stainding still. The bot starts to dance in the middle of the mobs with steed, and after steed is gone he comes back to the fight. Makes no sense, even more if i am using endurance, wich causes no damage at all.

Have you tried unchecking 'Cast Steed Charge Off CD'?

 

[fanaticc]

Thx alot !!!! if u make a improvement let me know

 

[jubisman]

About the bug reports:

Not casting Steed Charge right after cooldown (LoN): seems to only happen when the loiter code fails to kick in. I asked xz jv to look into the loiter issue, so this will be fixed when he gets around to it.

Not casting Laws Off CD: couldn't reproduce at all

All of the other reports: I don't think any of them are bugs.

 

[fanaticc]

Hultin , what are the best settings in Avoidance ? what are you using atm

 

[Myriddan]

This is REALLY insane, done about a hour and a half of grifts now, on average before this it was about 10-12 minutes a rift, not seen a single of these surpass 5:30 total running poorly rolled LoN gear. Para visible on pic.

(Time of session in the map, so you can see it's a reasonable exp/hr) - Still tweaking but gettin' there

Since posting I've got another 4bn/hr out of it.

One thing though, is it hard to make it cast iron skin and bomb at 1sec left of lightning, otherwise 0.5-1 sec of bombs are "wasted" in fire element as they take time to land and the damage does NOT snapshot at the time of casting

can you share your build and gear with me im a sader noob thanks

 

[Hultin]

Hultin , what are the best settings in Avoidance ? what are you using atm

like above, if you die alot lower a rift or try to get more toughness, LoN is very easily killed, I die nearly every rift atleast once, but so long as I don't die more than 2 times it's fine by me.

can you share your build and gear with me im a sader noob thanks

Literally check the first post in this page. Gear is just +- standard LoN build, I have a few wrong items not by choice but cus I don't have them yet.