DMO wizard struggling on grift 55

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Thanks for this Win, I am curious though, how does the bot calculate the monsters rift value?

 

[jensenbeach772]

dude your fucking awesome really thank you so much for this

 

[Nightsilver]

Having just cleared 60, i am going to go for 62 64 etc, but i have the exact build,i dont even use Aquila, because as was pointed out, your arcane is all over the place at least for me, even with fresh install of 2.19 trinity, and tweaking the trash pack to 5 and ignore minions etc. It does good then it kinda forgets its own rules, then it will go back to doing good again, its kinda a roller coaster its weird to watch. Sometimes it will sit there and focus on white mobs, other times it blows right through them so i dont think its 100% perfect, at least now what i have noticed.

I aucutally cubed the primus helm, it gives me all runes for slow time, and i find that is FAR FAR more better than having the Aquila because i dont ever have problems dying anyways, the 50% damage reduction even at 60, but i cant even use it effectively if the bot keeps teleporting, exploding and orbing, my arcane goes full to 0 full to 0 or half, it never stays constant at above 90 long enough to get any use of the Aquila, so by doing the primus helm, that gives like 5 awesome buffs to your slow time and i think that is the superior choice

I cubed triumvate, have a ancient infinite depths (has a socket too) i also never enchanted for area damage (like the video on the build suggests by quin) so maybe that would help for dps, but it does ok depending on the density, sometimes it gets a bit close to the time if there simply is a crap map like a cave (why blizzard decided to change the no-cave thing in normal rifts and not greaters is beyond me..so dumb)

I only have a few ancients, and only thing i switched was primus over Aquila and its clearing nicely at 60, i only wanted to get to 60 for journey chapters, and to get my gems 55+ which are all at 60+ now, despite 60% failure rate at 60

I like this build but i also find that trying to play it without the bot, i suck, i die a lot and cant keep up all the buffs and things its way way slower than what the bot can do, i tried a t10 rift (which is only 45 grift) and i didn't get very far, with enough practice I'm sure its ok but I'm not sure i enjoy the gameplay as much as it looks cool when the bot does it, because it takes some real skill to perform at the 60+ level, you have to teleport and use up everything to a T every x seconds or be waiting on slow time cooldown, where as the bot seems to be casting it every few seconds, when i play it, there's a huge difference in reaction/play time, and its frustrating.

I'm sure theres a lot of skilled wizards who thrive on this build legit, but for me i just am letting the bot do it, just for the progression and xp, I'll stick to my WD for personal progression and having fun while playing a class i find far more easier to play.

 

[Sweggert]

be waiting on slow time cooldown, where as the bot seems to be casting it every few seconds, when i play it, there's a huge difference in reaction/play time, and its frustrating.

Spectral blade reduces your slow time cooldown.

 

[immortalhz]

this build requires exactly 0 skill to play you should just get a high density and spam buttons and tp out of molten things this is not fastest grift build we have, so it will perform well at 65+ i think, the only real problem we have with bot is collision, all the trinity and adventure things will be perfect, we just need time, but the core of db isnt that easy to remake ;(

 

[WiN]

Seems like you know quite a lot about wizards, so I would like to hear your opinion on a few things.

1. Do you think DMO wizard is the most powerful solo build for current patch? YES - but Barb is best for High EXP
2. VYR Archon Wizard (in solo mode, probably in group too) feels very under powered compared to DMO wizard, do you agree? YES - DMO is new and Shiny so people are min maxing it a lot)
3. What do you think of Twister wizard compared to DMO wizard? Twister is squishy - especially for the bot - it doesnt have the avoidance to be able to clear the level GRift that DMO can easily handle. Twister is good for group play - massive damage.

@WiN
Mind sharing your xp/h?
Thanks for the tips btw, helped me polish up my settings

15-20b/hour on t10 rift key farming (2-3 minute clears 3-4 with Sages)
90 b/hour on Grift 73/74 EXP farming (12-3 min clears)
70 b/hour on Grift 65 gem leveling (5 minute clears)
I have yellow and blue pickups turned off and chest looting on Resplendent only. Not sure how accurate the Trinity figures are.

Thanks for this Win, I am curious though, how does the bot calculate the monsters rift value?

Unfortunately this is beyond my pay grade - jubis or xz can explain it way better than I can. Bottom line in super non dev talk - the harder to kill or the higher dps the mob the higher % it contributes to the overall rift %

 

[zuldembud]

Unfortunately this is beyond my pay grade - jubis or xz can explain it way better than I can. Bottom line in super non dev talk - the harder to kill or the higher dps the mob the higher % it contributes to the overall rift %

TurboHUD will show you the value of mobs near you, as well as showing higher value targets as larger dots on the minimap.

 

[feite faen]

i'm having troubles even with these settings.. Slow time is cast "too late".. I can't say for sure as i haven't been able to move my eyes quick enough, but it looks like it won't cast slow time till it has 5 stacks of Flashing.. It also very often tries to kill stuff outside of slowtime, champs/rares included even if slowtime is off CD.

Is that my settings, or just how the bot deals with it? I've copied Win's settings exactly.


///Frank

 

[ridz89]

1. Do you think DMO wizard is the most powerful solo build for current patch? YES - but Barb is best for High EXP
2. VYR Archon Wizard (in solo mode, probably in group too) feels very under powered compared to DMO wizard, do you agree? YES - DMO is new and Shiny so people are min maxing it a lot)
3. What do you think of Twister wizard compared to DMO wizard? Twister is squishy - especially for the bot - it doesnt have the avoidance to be able to clear the level GRift that DMO can easily handle. Twister is good for group play - massive damage.

15-20b/hour on t10 rift key farming (2-3 minute clears 3-4 with Sages)
90 b/hour on Grift 73/74 EXP farming (12-3 min clears)
70 b/hour on Grift 65 gem leveling (5 minute clears)
I have yellow and blue pickups turned off and chest looting on Resplendent only. Not sure how accurate the Trinity figures are.


Unfortunately this is beyond my pay grade - jubis or xz can explain it way better than I can. Bottom line in super non dev talk - the harder to kill or the higher dps the mob the higher % it contributes to the overall rift %

first post that actually makes sense in this forum...thanks WiN

other people getting over 100bil xp with other classes have over 1000 paragon too, means faster clears. dont forget above 1k para you get alot more primary stat per point. and having perfect gear helps (most likely non season). if i had known this season was only for a 7th tab, i would've kept going on my para 1500+ main account...too late to turn back lol

 

[WiN]

My best guess here is that you don't have the Illusionist Passive selected. 2.14.19+ spams Slow Time a lot, there are only brief seconds when it isnt inside the bubble. Maybe a quick recheck on the setup from Quinns guide.

i'm having troubles even with these settings.. Slow time is cast "too late".. I can't say for sure as i haven't been able to move my eyes quick enough, but it looks like it won't cast slow time till it has 5 stacks of Flashing.. It also very often tries to kill stuff outside of slowtime, champs/rares included even if slowtime is off CD.

Is that my settings, or just how the bot deals with it? I've copied Win's settings exactly.


///Frank

 

[feite faen]

My best guess here is that you don't have the Illusionist Passive selected. 2.14.19+ spams Slow Time a lot, there are only brief seconds when it isnt inside the bubble. Maybe a quick recheck on the setup from Quinns guide.

I do have it active.. and now more exactly what happends is that it never casts it unless it's gonna cast AO, sometimes after(right after it's used @ 5 stacks).. It's really odd, cause mostly it works perfect, especially if chain-pulling, but often if it's been walking a long/short distance it blinks into champs and whatnot starts spectral and dead before alter is cast, and here also after it's built up 5 stacks :s

Is there a setting for this that i've clicked or something maybe? Running 2.14.24 trinity

Thanks so far

///Frank

 

[Nightsilver]

i just got a really awesome unstable scepter (2800 dps) i got a few more ancients now too, doing well with this build, but i also have been trying to get area damage, i am at 130% is that a pretty good % of area damage? i am paragon 688, i have 35% hit and 319% crit (kinda low maybe but i enchanted out some to get more area damage see if that is a big difference like quin says it is) and just over 1 mill sheet damage, 33mill toughness, 1mill life... i am about to test gr64 having done 62 all night without much problem, i'm slowly inching my way up the ladder, hoping i can do at least 1 clear of 70 thats my goal for this season, i had the goal for 60 but having blown through 60 and beyond 70 doesn't seem to far out of reach, just need more ancients and tweaking of enchants, gems etc.

 

[judgerus]

I just started farming grift70 on my wiz. Easy peasy. I got 2.5mil dps and 110% area dmg at the moment.

 

[WiN]

Only thing left to do is grab a new copy of DB from the forum and reinstall - maybe some setting hasn't updated correctly during the DB updates.

I do have it active.. and now more exactly what happends is that it never casts it unless it's gonna cast AO, sometimes after(right after it's used @ 5 stacks).. It's really odd, cause mostly it works perfect, especially if chain-pulling, but often if it's been walking a long/short distance it blinks into champs and whatnot starts spectral and dead before alter is cast, and here also after it's built up 5 stacks :s

Is there a setting for this that i've clicked or something maybe? Running 2.14.24 trinity

Thanks so far

///Frank