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I'm to scared to use honorbuddy now, and i hate it

crownslanes

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i literally hate it, i really only ever used honorbuddy as a class profile for raiding since i hate rotations and i can never stick to them, and focus more on tactics then my dps and rotation.

i recently got perma banned on my main account that was 10 years old.

so i started again havent injected yet.. but its getting tiring anyone can suggest some dps class that i can manage atm im playing hunter and rogue

thanks
 
Stick with the rogue. Very rewarding Class. I'll help you out some.

SUBTLETY ROGUE

First off use 2 daggers. Use these talents and glyphs http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#cba!1201021!TQPoJ

Make sure you always use a Greater Draenic Agility Flask.

NEVER use Hemorrhage or Garrote.

Stat priority is Agi > Multistrike > Crit = Mastery
I don't care what guides say, these are your stat priorities. Try to balance Crit and Mastery 50/50

Create these macros:

PULL MACRO
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=60 Ambush, Rupture, Ambush, Ambush, Preparation, Eviscerate, Ambush, Ambush, Slice and Dice, Vanish, Ambush, Rupture, Ambush, Ambush

BURST MACRO
#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Vanish

BIG BURST MACRO
#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Reflection
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Vanish
/use Draenic Agility Potion


-- During 10second dbm pull timer--
Stealth
Use Premeditation
@2 seconds use slice and dice
@1 second use Draenic Agility Potion
@Pull hit your BIG BURST MACRO once. This will activate all abilities.
@Next spam your PULL MACRO

Once your PULL MACRO is done, make sure to keep rupture and slice n dice up 24/7 on the boss.
Refresh rupture when it's 7 seconds or less.
Refresh slice n dice when it's 10 seconds or less.

Make sure to stay behind/to the side of the boss. You will be using backstab for damage/combo point generation. Spend combo points on Eviscerate only when you do not need them for rupture or slice n dice.

Every minute you can use your BURST MACRO
What this means is
1. Make sure Rupture is above 11 seconds.
2. Make sure Slice n Dice is above 11 seconds.
3. Make sure you have max or almost max energy.

If the above are met, hit your BURST MACRO and spam the shit out of ambush
During this small burst window, make sure you refresh rupture / slice n dice if they fall too low.
NEVER use eviscerate more then once during this burst window and only use it if you don't need to refresh either rupture or slice n dice.

You can use your BIG BURST MACRO once every two minutes. The requirements are the exact same as the BURST MACRO

To make it easier, you will use BIG BURST MACRO then BURST MACRO then BIG BURST MACRO then BURST MACRO

Literally all you do is alternate between them.

The rest is simple. Just spam backstab for damage inbetween bursts and combo regen along with maintaining rupture and slice n dice. Eviscerate only when both are up and you don't need the combo points for either rupture or slice n dice.

Hopefully this helps. This setup is assuming you have your 4 piece. If not, just use the same macros as it doesn't REALLY matter.

Any questions, feel free to leave em.

ADDITIONAL INFO

If you're a rogue, go subtlety for single target dps, combat for aoe dps.

For managing the uptime of Rupture and Slice n Dice, use the addon Tell Me When. If you need help setting it up let me know. It makes playing a rogue 10x easier.

If you're trying to gear, get full 700 ilvl pvp gear. That's enough to get you into normal hfc.

I may not be a mythic raider, but I've done a lot of research on written / video guides along with actually talking to mythic raiders and pull 53-60k on single target fights lasting > 8 minutes. The shorter the fight, the higher it is above 60k.
My Rogue.webp
 
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Also to throw in my disgusting opinion.

Don't use the bot for rotations. The rotations take a little to learn, but do some research, set up your bars and just practice. Eventually it becomes muscle memory.
 
would also recommend SpellFlash and /or Ovale, for getting the hang of the rotation on new alts. spellflash changes the action bar when abilities proc, Ovale shows what would work best 'next", but you can't click on the ability that shows up, it's more of a guide. I believe they work together.

As you get to 100, you do need to change ovale, and spellflash is awful for healers, in general.

Both work in different ways, spellflash is useful for seeing what procs to use, but you still need a bit of IQ to know when/what to save or use, i.e. if you have a tank, it won't flash up shield/absorb CD abilities, etc.

Ovale, goes into that kind of depth, but it's more for DPS than healing or adaptable situations. Still, Ovale is probably the better choice, it's just odd to use. There's also several class specific rotation addons like DKTwo, CLC, FTN, (or whatever's still around...), and i believe Ovale can import a Simcraft script based on your character's gear to determine an optimal rotation for your character, i guess.

The two weakest classes i've never tried to level with are warrior and rogue, nothing personally wrong, but the monk was just more reliable than either at the time (the new hotness),

so i never went back to a regen class. it's probably good to practise before Legion and the demon hunters, and just druid/rogue your way to 100.
 
Stick with the rogue. Very rewarding Class. I'll help you out some.

SUBTLETY ROGUE

First off use 2 daggers. Use these talents and glyphs http://us.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#cba!1201021!TQPoJ

Make sure you always use a Greater Draenic Agility Flask.

NEVER use Hemorrhage or Garrote.

Stat priority is Agi > Multistrike > Crit = Mastery
I don't care what guides say, these are your stat priorities. Try to balance Crit and Mastery 50/50

Create these macros:

PULL MACRO
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=60 Ambush, Rupture, Ambush, Ambush, Preparation, Eviscerate, Ambush, Ambush, Slice and Dice, Vanish, Ambush, Rupture, Ambush, Ambush

BURST MACRO
#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Vanish

BIG BURST MACRO
#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Reflection
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Vanish
/use Draenic Agility Potion


-- During 10second dbm pull timer--
Stealth
Use Premeditation
@2 seconds use slice and dice
@1 second use Draenic Agility Potion
@Pull hit your BIG BURST MACRO once. This will activate all abilities.
@Next spam your PULL MACRO

Once your PULL MACRO is done, make sure to keep rupture and slice n dice up 24/7 on the boss.
Refresh rupture when it's 7 seconds or less.
Refresh slice n dice when it's 10 seconds or less.

Make sure to stay behind/to the side of the boss. You will be using backstab for damage/combo point generation. Spend combo points on Eviscerate only when you do not need them for rupture or slice n dice.

Every minute you can use your BURST MACRO
What this means is
1. Make sure Rupture is above 11 seconds.
2. Make sure Slice n Dice is above 11 seconds.
3. Make sure you have max or almost max energy.

If the above are met, hit your BURST MACRO and spam the shit out of ambush
During this small burst window, make sure you refresh rupture / slice n dice if they fall too low.
NEVER use eviscerate more then once during this burst window and only use it if you don't need to refresh either rupture or slice n dice.

You can use your BIG BURST MACRO once every two minutes. The requirements are the exact same as the BURST MACRO

To make it easier, you will use BIG BURST MACRO then BURST MACRO then BIG BURST MACRO then BURST MACRO

Literally all you do is alternate between them.

The rest is simple. Just spam backstab for damage inbetween bursts and combo regen along with maintaining rupture and slice n dice. Eviscerate only when both are up and you don't need the combo points for either rupture or slice n dice.

Hopefully this helps. This setup is assuming you have your 4 piece. If not, just use the same macros as it doesn't REALLY matter.

Any questions, feel free to leave em.

ADDITIONAL INFO

If you're a rogue, go subtlety for single target dps, combat for aoe dps.

For managing the uptime of Rupture and Slice n Dice, use the addon Tell Me When. If you need help setting it up let me know. It makes playing a rogue 10x easier.

If you're trying to gear, get full 700 ilvl pvp gear. That's enough to get you into normal hfc.

I may not be a mythic raider, but I've done a lot of research on written / video guides along with actually talking to mythic raiders and pull 53-60k on single target fights lasting > 8 minutes. The shorter the fight, the higher it is above 60k.
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Thankyou for this in depth guide im going to try and get this sorted for Leigon so im a good player again, i probably have just become lazy.. i guess before i was always average then when HB CC got good, i seemed pro to my guildes raiding mythics ect, now i came back i don't want them to think i have some brain disorder for being so bad.

Also thanks for the other replies will try these addons and see if they help
 
Damn dude why do you subject yourself to a game you hate to play. I think giving up WoW should be something you consider.
 
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