About 32bit vs 64bit and running in 32mode on 64bit pc and IP track

[kekic91]

So i read alot of thread and decied to write few thing about version of OS ur using with HB

First think to know is that a 32bit OS cannot run more than 4GB of RAM,so if u install 32bit version and have more than 4GB of RAM the extra amount that passes 4GB wont being used and it is writen in System Propeties,and also every single CPU made from i forgot when 2005-2009 year is 64bit capaible,so is on low chances that u MUST have a 32bit ver.

A wow client + HB client is using around 600-650 MB of RAM

If u wish to run team of 3 man u need around 5.5 GB of RAM with system and often used programs and apps like chrome or whatever(5.5 tested on 3 man team a chrome with 1-5 tabs and some low background progress like for sound,graphic etc)

Thats why u must install 64bit of ver so u can run all off that
HB runs wow client only in 32bit ver,sadly
If they can detect that ur using 32bit wow client on 64 bit OS alot more,and i mean ALOT more people will be banned beacuse its just low chance that u run wow and hb,or two+,on 32 bi OS cuz RAM usage.

Point is that almoust every man who bot have 64 bit OS running 32bit wow client,imagine bans based on OS and client bit version


Now short lines for IP track

Whatever u use,cable,Wi-Fi,adsl etc etc internet connection it is 99.99% chance u have dynamic IP with means its changes periodicly,like once a week,
or yeaterday was power lost in neighborhood so router was turned off u got new ip or net provider doing some repair and he restart links,and servers(witch is often) u got new IP.etc
This is for external IP that is visible to sites,blizz etc and u can check it on www.whatsmyip.com anytime
The things with dont changes is
IP of your router
MAC of router
MAC of ur PC

Now what u dont want to change is

Dont mess up with the MACs speclialy if u using internet provider like cable of wifi witch they all have set to allow u using internet on based MAC or Phys PC IP,if u change that setting u will be out of internet connection and u would not know how to get back by urself.
Dont even mess with things u dint research before on whats basic it runs,how,and unwanted resaults.

Anyone who has expirience with this things while using HB are welcome to reply,share they resault or ask anything regarding Title.

 

[Thecamel]

So i read alot of thread and decied to write few thing about version of OS ur using with HB

First think to know is that a 32bit OS cannot run more than 4GB of RAA,so if u install 32bit version and have more than 4GB of RAM the extra amount that passes 4GB wont being used and it is writen in System Propeties,and also every single CPU made from i forgot when 2005-2009 year is 64bit capaible,so is on low chances that u MUST have a 32bit ver.

A wow client + HB client is using around 600-650 MB of RAM

If u wish to run team of 3 man u need around 5.5 GB of RAM with system and often used program and aps like chrome or whatever(5.5 tested on 3 man team a chrome with 1-5 tabs and some low background progres like for sound,graphic etc)

Thats why u must install 64bit of ver so u can run all off that
HB runs wow client only in 32bit ver,sadly
If they can detect that ur usin 32bit wow client on 64 bit OS alot more,and i mean ALOT more people will be banned beacuse its just low chance that u run wow and hb,or two+,on 32 bi OS cuz RAM usage.

Point is that almoust every man who bot have 64 bit OS running 32bit wow client,imagine bans baset on OS and client bit version


Now short lines for IP track

Whatever u use,cable,Wi-Fi,adsl etc etc internet connection it is 99.99% chance u have dynamic IP with means its changer perodicly,like once a week,
or yeaterday was power lost in neighborhood so router was turned off u got new ip or net provider doing some repair and he restart links,and servers(witch is often) etc
This is for external IP that is visible to sites,blizz etc and u can check it on www.whatsmyip.com anytime
The thing with dont changes is
IP of your router
MAC of router
MAC of ur PC

Now what u should change is

Dont mess up with the MACs speclialy if u using internet provider like cable of wifi witch they all have set to allow u using internet MAC or Phys PC IP,if u change that setting u will be out of internet connection and u would not know how to get back by urself.
Dont even mess with things u dint research before on whats basic it runs,how,and unwanted resaults.

Anyone who has expirience with this things while using HB are welcome to reply,share they resault or ask anything regarding Title.

I get that your new and all.. but please just leave the topic to peace.

The devs will not move over to 64bit until WOW no longer supports 32bit.. there is no if/buts or maybe.

 

[Goshinki]

Dynamic IP for 90% of US ISPs means the ISP changes it when they want too. Mostly "static" for everyone out there Comcast etc.


Same install can be traced to you.

Same payment method etc.

64 bit will change nothing for 90% of HB users.

 

[Cukie]

64 bit will change nothing for 90% of HB users.

People that say this have and use it for CR's only have 100% not tried alternatives. It 100% makes a difference in FPS and smoothness of gameplay.

 

[Goshinki]

Same coders different platform same performance. Only noticeable past 6+ WoW seasons on a decent rig.

 

[Cukie]

Same coders

Probably

different platform

Definitely

same performance

Incorrect

Only noticeable past 6+ WoW seasons on a decent rig.

Only? No. Also? Yes.

 

[NavyAV89]

So i read alot of thread and decied to write few thing about version of OS ur using with HB

First think to know is that a 32bit OS cannot run more than 4GB of RAA,so if u install 32bit version and have more than 4GB of RAM the extra amount that passes 4GB wont being used and it is writen in System Propeties,and also every single CPU made from i forgot when 2005-2009 year is 64bit capaible,so is on low chances that u MUST have a 32bit ver.

A wow client + HB client is using around 600-650 MB of RAM

If u wish to run team of 3 man u need around 5.5 GB of RAM with system and often used program and aps like chrome or whatever(5.5 tested on 3 man team a chrome with 1-5 tabs and some low background progres like for sound,graphic etc)

Thats why u must install 64bit of ver so u can run all off that
HB runs wow client only in 32bit ver,sadly
If they can detect that ur usin 32bit wow client on 64 bit OS alot more,and i mean ALOT more people will be banned beacuse its just low chance that u run wow and hb,or two+,on 32 bi OS cuz RAM usage.

Point is that almoust every man who bot have 64 bit OS running 32bit wow client,imagine bans baset on OS and client bit version


Now short lines for IP track

Whatever u use,cable,Wi-Fi,adsl etc etc internet connection it is 99.99% chance u have dynamic IP with means its changer perodicly,like once a week,
or yeaterday was power lost in neighborhood so router was turned off u got new ip or net provider doing some repair and he restart links,and servers(witch is often) etc
This is for external IP that is visible to sites,blizz etc and u can check it on www.whatsmyip.com anytime
The thing with dont changes is
IP of your router
MAC of router
MAC of ur PC

Now what u should change is

Dont mess up with the MACs speclialy if u using internet provider like cable of wifi witch they all have set to allow u using internet MAC or Phys PC IP,if u change that setting u will be out of internet connection and u would not know how to get back by urself.
Dont even mess with things u dint research before on whats basic it runs,how,and unwanted resaults.

Anyone who has expirience with this things while using HB are welcome to reply,share they resault or ask anything regarding Title.

If your OS is 64-bit, That allows you to run multiple instances that would use more then 4GB. Besides, what you describe isn't even close to how computers "work" The 4GB limit is an OS limitation, not an application limit.

 

[frosticus]

this is new and interesting, you must post more!!

 

[kekic91]

I get that your new and all.. but please just leave the topic to peace.

The devs will not move over to 64bit until WOW no longer supports 32bit.. there is no if/buts or maybe.

This topic isnt about HB making a 64 bit version,its about tracing ur mashine by using 32bit wow client on 64 bit OS,and IP track.

 

[kekic91]

If your OS is 64-bit, That allows you to run multiple instances that would use more then 4GB. Besides, what you describe isn't even close to how computers "work" The 4GB limit is an OS limitation, not an application limit.

Im a PC servicer,hardver and system,im pretty sure how PC operates

By telling OS limitation that mean OS forbit using more that 4GB....thats not true at all,the 32bit OS cannot at any way use more than 4gb,by simple math calculate of 32bit base protocol,so it is not OS limitation it is OS not supported.

I dont know where u read in my post where i sayid something about app limit ?

But thanks for interesing for

 

[NavyAV89]

Im a PC servicer,hardver and system,im pretty sure how PC operates

By telling OS limitation that mean OS forbit using more that 4GB....thats not true at all,the 32bit OS cannot at any way use more than 4gb,by simple math calculate of 32bit base protocol,so it is not OS limitation it is OS not supported.

I dont know where u read in my post where i sayid something about app limit ?

But thanks for interesing for

You said that people are running 64-bit OS on their PCs. No where did anyone say that anyone was running a 32-bit OS.

So your statement that a 32-bit honor buddy is limited to 4GB of memory is completely wrong.

 

[Thecamel]

This topic isnt about HB making a 64 bit version,its about tracing ur mashine by using 32bit wow client on 64 bit OS,and IP track.

Blizzard have already showed us if they want to knock as all off they can..

Blizzard HAVE to turn a blind eye to botters - whilst banning a few to maintain peace with the non botting community.

Wow subs have got to the point that with out botters they loose to much money.

 

[kekic91]

Blizzard have already showed us if they want to knock as all off they can..

Blizzard HAVE to turn a blind eye to botters - whilst banning a few to maintain peace with the non botting community.

Yea ur right,they can ban us all,they showed that can track us,and they cannot aford to ban us all ofc
Wow subs have got to the point that with out botters they loose to much money.

You said that people are running 64-bit OS on their PCs. No where did anyone say that anyone was running a 32-bit OS.

So your statement that a 32-bit honor buddy is limited to 4GB of memory is completely wrong.

I sayed that ppl are very likely running 64 OS beacuse of amout RAM installed,and using 32bit wow client cuz HB
I NEVER make a statment so stupid that HB is limited to 4 gb
(proof is in my first post telling i tested amout usage on 3 man team(3 wow acc+3 Hb running) with some often used program and backgroud proceses is about 5.5Gb RAM
u cant make conclusion from that,that i said Hb is 4 GB limited u missunderstand me

 

[kuskner]

I still dont get the point of your post. 60% of it is how 32 bit works compared to 64 bit. 30% of what IP and MAC is and 10% about HB? Do you want a 64 bit HB for some reason? This topic has been brought up 100 times before, and HB team assures us this has nothing to do with detection. They might be wrong tho They have only been programming HB for 6-7 years (correct me if im wrong)

 

[DrStrider]

Oh look... a thread just for speculation and fearmongering.

 

[kekic91]

So your statement that a 32-bit honor buddy is limited to 4GB of memory is completely wrong.[/QUOTE]

I still dont get the point of your post. 60% of it is how 32 bit works compared to 64 bit. 30% of what IP and MAC is and 10% about HB? Do you want a 64 bit HB for some reason? This topic has been brought up 100 times before, and HB team assures us this has nothing to do with detection. They might be wrong tho They have only been programming HB for 6-7 years (correct me if im wrong)

Point of this post is to inform people who are low informed about chance of detection when u use 32bit wow client on 64bit OS and why is that
So ofc its 60 % about what 32vs64 is. So u can uderstand how it works
Also IP regardet lines is.
When u know what and how Ips and MACs work u will know the chances of tracing it.
I have no reason requesting a 64 bit Hb but id have no reason refuse 64bit HB
Topics where ppls said about IP tracing is alot in this forum thats true
but topics where it explains so ppls dont post such things like ip tracing i dint see

 

[kekic91]

And guys i do not have any requests in this topic

Just wanned to clear for some scared people about tracing they IPs and etc

So i do not ask anything,this is Info post

 

[B3rlin3r]

So i read alot of thread and decied to write few thing about version of OS ur using with HB

First think to know is that a 32bit OS cannot run more than 4GB of RAM,so if u install 32bit version and have more than 4GB of RAM the extra amount that passes 4GB wont being used and it is writen in System Propeties,and also every single CPU made from i forgot when 2005-2009 year is 64bit capaible,so is on low chances that u MUST have a 32bit ver.

No, on a 32bit machine each process can address max. 4 GB, so "won't being used" is not true...

 

[B3rlin3r]

And if you wanna know how the 32bit OS do this, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

 

[kekic91]

No, on a 32bit machine each process can address max. 4 GB, so "won't being used" is not true...

by telling ''each process can address max. 4 GB'' it point that each process can use up to 4 gb? lol ?TOTAL USAGE IN 32bit OS cannot exced 4GB (usualy3.75 or 3.25 or exact 4GB)

Regarding othey your post
I have been readed year and year for everything about hardware and system
Also im PC SERVICER u know what that mean right ?
''each process can address max. 4 GB'' is not true at all,that point ur 32bit OS can have more that 4Gb with is simple not true(u can have instaled on ur mashine more than4 but it wont be used)

About ur link

U linked me wiki to read and u dind read that wiki at all,whats inside?
Ur link is abou ONE process Physical Address Extension (PAE)
For comparison, 32-bit x86 processors are limited to 64 GB of RAM in Physical Address Extension (PAE) mode,[16] or 4 GB of RAM without PAE mode.[1](p4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64