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Concern About other accounts being Banned due to my botting

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lyvewyre

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Awesome to see that the bot is up and working again (as someone who did not get hit by the Hammer), but after reading many reports by those who did, I am now worried that if I ever do get hit, the two people who live in the same household will get banned as part of collateral damage, due to same IP. Can anyone confirm/nix this concern?

if I want to make sure they do not get hit, do I need to look at VPN'ing my computer? I'm fairly sure simply VMing wouldn't work, it'd need to be combo of both.

Side notes, only bot for Garrison and the occasional dungeon/raid/bg, all with Enyo. So I'm not making money off this, so VPN'ing/VMing costs wouldn't be absorbed back.
 
Hi, Lyvewyre,

Collateral damage is always a risk when you bot. You should not bot, if this is a concern to you.

The game's terms of service say they can ban you for any reason (or NO reason). If any of your accounts benefited from the bot in any fashion, it puts them at risk.

cheers,
chinajade
 
chinajade said:
The game's terms of service say they can ban you for any reason (or NO reason). If any of your accounts benefited from the bot in any fashion, it puts them at risk.
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What if none of them have? They accept that I use honorbuddy, but have had no desire to do so themselves? I get that this something I doubt anyone would know for sure, but more hoping for some anecdotal evidence where someone has been Hammered but other accounts that have not botted do not get hit. TOS does say they can ban at any time and for any reason, but whether they specifically ban accounts simply due to IP affiliation is what i am curious about.

I'd like to get back into it, but I don't want to jeopardise the accounts of those who I live with just because I prefer to use Enyo and GarrisonButler.
 
lyvewyre said:
What if none of them have? They accept that I use honorbuddy, but have had no desire to do so themselves? I get that this something I doubt anyone would know for sure, but more hoping for some anecdotal evidence where someone has been Hammered but other accounts that have not botted do not get hit. TOS does say they can ban at any time and for any reason, but whether they specifically ban accounts simply due to IP affiliation is what i am curious about.

I'd like to get back into it, but I don't want to jeopardise the accounts of those who I live with just because I prefer to use Enyo and GarrisonButler.
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Just my thoughts, no hard evidence behind it:
If the accounts aren't affiliated in any way, shape, or form, they likely will not ban the accounts.
To my understanding the recent banwave affected those who had run honorbuddy specifically at some point, and I haven't seen a report where somewhere got banned through association (Same IP).
Like chinajade said, they can ban for whatever reason they see fit, even for no reason, but even with these rules they won't just go around banning whom they please if it's unjust. (Don't think same IP is a breach of T.o.S. If you transfer gold/items e.g. giving the person on your same IP some gold or gear even if not botted, they could probably use that if they wanted.)
 
Most cases I have seen they will hit the botter and will leave nonbotting accounts alone. Please keep in mind unless you know someone on a very personal lvl and to me that is going and chilling in their home, all the info is on the forums.
I have never known anyone that uses the bot only on one account and has never been tempted to get that one mount to drop on their main they just can't get. Take every thing you hear on the forums with a grain of salt.
 
Generally speaking you won't have the exact same IP addy as the people in your house sharing internet if they use a different PC. IP addys always increase as you attach devices to you network (for example, my PC has a different IP than my wife's laptop even though the network is the same). Also, Blizz should be able to isolate which account is actually botting by use of IP and/or MAC address. My wife and I have the same network, but I was banned for botting and she wasn't (cuz she is a good girl and doesn't bot lol)...
 
My wow1 account got banned but not my wow2 and there is also another 2 wow players in the house that don't bot. We all have our own computers and it never affected them, only the account that I botted on which was my wow1 account
 
I have never had issues running multiple accounts from same household.
 
Thanks Killajosh and MissHuntress, that was essentially what I was hoping to hear. And cheers to everyone else for the replies.

Like your examples, I have two others who also play wow in the same house on the same network, but they do not bot (I'm 100% certain of this as per freebox's comment). I don't want my botting habits to affect their accounts. I have no issues if my account/s get banned as I'm obviously in the wrong, but I don't want theirs to get banned due to my actions.
 
This shouldn't be a problem, example my entire ISP in my area, about 200 houses has the exact same IP, same with schools etc. Why would they ban people based on their IP? would be dumb.
 
lyvewyre said:
Awesome to see that the bot is up and working again (as someone who did not get hit by the Hammer), but after reading many reports by those who did, I am now worried that if I ever do get hit, the two people who live in the same household will get banned as part of collateral damage, due to same IP. Can anyone confirm/nix this concern?

if I want to make sure they do not get hit, do I need to look at VPN'ing my computer? I'm fairly sure simply VMing wouldn't work, it'd need to be combo of both.

Side notes, only bot for Garrison and the occasional dungeon/raid/bg, all with Enyo. So I'm not making money off this, so VPN'ing/VMing costs wouldn't be absorbed back.
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When software detection takes place, I believe all accounts which are running on the same machine at the same time as when detection takes place get banned. Apart from that you should be OK.
 
killajosh said:
Generally speaking you won't have the exact same IP addy as the people in your house sharing internet if they use a different PC. IP addys always increase as you attach devices to you network (for example, my PC has a different IP than my wife's laptop even though the network is the same).
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This is false. Every computer behind the same router will have the same external IP address. Your IP-address does not change by "adding more devices to your network", that would make global routing tables and DNS servers go crazy. I'm assuming what you are talking about is your network-IP: the IP-address that was assigned to your computer by your router internally inside your network. This address is invisible to the outside and usually starts with 192.168.1.1. Your MAC-address is the physical address of your network card, it's unique and cannot be changed (only spoofed), and it can be used to identify your PC from others on the same network.
 
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