Barb frenzy problem

[Mojoguy01]

Sorry what? I couldnt hear you over the sound of you being owned by someone with more experience. UMAD? You were wrong, suck it up, boy.

Top 30 barb in the world. Lil insecure kid trying to epeen his way out of being schooled because he has nothing valid to add. No one here believes you, troll the official forums.

He's not in the top 50. Leader board holders are scrutinized for botting on a weekly basis. If he WERE in the top 30 he'd be banned by now.

 

[sdkyron]

Sorry what? I couldnt hear you over the sound of you being owned by someone with more experience. UMAD? You were wrong, suck it up, boy.

Top 30 barb in the world. Lil insecure kid trying to epeen his way out of being schooled because he has nothing valid to add. No one here believes you, troll the official forums.

I really couldn't care less if you believe it or not, actually, close to being in the top 20, live with it son. As far as being schooled, i'm still waiting for it.

He's not in the top 50. Leader board holders are scrutinized for botting on a weekly basis. If he WERE in the top 30 he'd be banned by now.

Always enjoyed meeting another of those conspiracy theorist

 

[BBD90]

Ah, Frenzy is a fury generator so if your Fury is always at max the logical solution is to remove Frenzy and put in another skill.

Problem Solved.

/thread.

 

[Mojoguy01]

Ah, Frenzy is a fury generator so if your Fury is always at max the logical solution is to remove Frenzy and put in another skill.

Problem Solved.

/thread.

No, because you will slowly generate fury without Frenzy to begin with. That, and Frenzy + Maniac means more damage and more chances to crit due to Frenzy's fast attack speed.


What you should be doing is remove avalanche and put something else for more survival to do T6 Ghom like the defensive shout or something. Avalanche is only useful in HEAVY Fury spending builds. Otherwise you won't get the bonus 1second recharge every 25fury spent, which is the whole point of Avalanche in the first place !


[Edit]: I'll try both builds and determine after a couple hours each with is best XP/Leg earner per hour when i get home soon though !


982k DPS unbuffed, 10.2mill Toughness unbuffed ~ Horribly geared, Cheers!

 

[BBD90]

No, because you will slowly generate fury without Frenzy to begin with. That, and Frenzy + Maniac means more damage and more chances to crit due to Frenzy's fast attack speed.


What you should be doing is remove avalanche and put something else for more survival to do T6 Ghom like the defensive shout or something. Avalanche is only useful in HEAVY Fury spending builds. Otherwise you won't get the bonus 1second recharge every 25fury spent, which is the whole point of Avalanche in the first place !


[Edit]: I'll try both builds and determine after a couple hours each with is best XP/Leg earner per hour when i get home soon though !


982k DPS unbuffed, 10.2mill Toughness unbuffed ~ Horribly geared, Cheers!

I am at full fury by the time I get to Ghom my fury tank is full already. By the time you stack Frenzy 5 times, I have Ghom at half HP already. The point is to burst as hard as you can, as fast as you can.

 

[Mojoguy01]

I am at full fury by the time I get to Ghom my fury tank is full already. By the time you stack Frenzy 5 times, I have Ghom at half HP already. The point is to burst as hard as you can, as fast as you can.

So how exactly are you "Bursting" without a builder to do constant damage? If you use Fury from a Fury spender you lose the +25% dmg buff from the passive.


So, yea, not using a builder is a horrible idea with that build. Just saying

 

[Mojoguy01]

The pure Frenzy dps one is actually ganking Ghom T3 fairly quickly. However, I can't seem to kill him fast enough and die before my potion has recharged in T4.

I'm curious if you're using a poison-reversal item of some kind? (you take poison dmg -> healed) etc?

Also, I'm noticing that Avalanche is not being used that often when in RMB? I had to manually force him to use it on one run.


Right now getting about 52mill more xp per hour than Tier2 Rift runs so I can't complain . I just wish I did more dmg or had more hp/healing to do Tier4 . I'm thinking my lack of Unity rings is the issue, but i just can't find them no many how many days I farm Kulle !

ps: I had to edit Battle Rage's ability code in trinity, else he kept spamming it and wasting fury. Below is the code I had to change:

public static bool CanCastBattleRage
{
    get
    {
        int timeSinceUse = SpellHistory.TimeSinceUse(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage).Milliseconds;
		if (timeSinceUse >= 110000 || !SpellHistory.HasUsedSpell(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage))
		{
			return !UseOOCBuff && !Player.IsIncapacitated && CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage, CanCastFlags.NoTimer) &&
				(
					!GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage) ||
					(Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpWOTB && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin") && GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_WrathOfTheBerserker)) ||
					Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpAlways && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin")
				) &&
				Player.PrimaryResource >= V.F("Barbarian.BattleRage.MinFury");
		}
		else
		{
			return false;
		}
    }
}

pss: Just timed it and T3 Ghom dies within 2seconds short of WOTB dropping, so 18second kills with reasonable gear...nothing amazing though.


psss: Heh, tons of edits!! Anyways, according to DB i'm making 46games per hour, each game giving 5.65mill exp. So i'm only getting 259.9mill per game from the quest alone. Haven't seen what I'm getting per ghom kill itself, but I imagine not anywhere near a million? So at max i'm doing what....300mill per hour? Meh ! I need to be able to do T4 Ghom within this timelimit to come close to Tier3 Hell Rifting I think xD!

 

[BBD90]

So how exactly are you "Bursting" without a builder to do constant damage? If you use Fury from a Fury spender you lose the +25% dmg buff from the passive.


So, yea, not using a builder is a horrible idea with that build. Just saying

I think you have me mistaken with someone, I didn't even post a build. I was specifically responding to the OP who mentions that he has too much Fury and the bot uses Frenzy when he doesn't want it to.

If you have too much Fury, remove the Fury generator, it's simple as that.

 

[floppie]

Yes 17-18 sec is exactly how fast I kill Ghom with HotA+Earthquake. Ive done that shit through 1000s of Ghom kills. IT ISNT AS GOOD. I kill Ghom in roughly 12-13 seconds with this Barbarian - Game Guide - Diablo III and I really dont give a fuck if it looks funky. I care about *results*.

Who gives a fuck what Diabloprogress is doing. Are 99% of Barbs doing 55 Ghom runs per hour? I care how many Ghom kills I get per hour for legs.

Maybe you should stfu and actually TRY new things before making ignorant observations and being a stubborn fuck? Your loss if not.

Hey! I'm using the same setup as you are. Do you have a fix for the bot as it spams battle rage over and over instead of overpower?

 

[Mojoguy01]

Hey! I'm using the same setup as you are. Do you have a fix for the bot as it spams battle rage over and over instead of overpower?

You REALLY should have read the whole thread. I posted a fix for that very same issue earlier.

 

[Mojoguy01]

I think you have me mistaken with someone, I didn't even post a build. I was specifically responding to the OP who mentions that he has too much Fury and the bot uses Frenzy when he doesn't want it to.

If you have too much Fury, remove the Fury generator, it's simple as that.

You didn't read it correctly then. He said that once his Frenzy stacks time-out they try to re-stack it which wastes killing time and his fury sits at 100% for too long. The Frenzy code should check to see when Frenzy was last used, and keep refreshing it before it drops so he doesn't stop what he's doing to attack 5 more times for another stack of 5 every 3 seconds or so.

 

[schmocki]

can anyone help me i have a problem when i run the bot automatic with profile like ghom rifts bounty etc he does what he should do i have a frenzy and hota spec but when i run the bot with a trinity combat profile from rixx when i play with my friends the bot pauses every couple of seconds and is allways on max fury and dont spent any hota its weird anybody know why and can help?

 

[floppie]

You REALLY should have read the whole thread. I posted a fix for that very same issue earlier.

you REALLY should know the reason why im asking, because your fix doesnt work for me.

PS: anyone has any other way to fix this?

 

[dogling]

you REALLY should know the reason why im asking, because your fix doesnt work for me.

PS: anyone has any other way to fix this?

In your trinity settings, uncheck fury dump (sprint) in the barb section. Worked for me.

 

[Aikido]

No, because you will slowly generate fury without Frenzy to begin with. That, and Frenzy + Maniac means more damage and more chances to crit due to Frenzy's fast attack speed.
What you should be doing is remove avalanche and put something else for more survival to do T6 Ghom like the defensive shout or something. Avalanche is only useful in HEAVY Fury spending builds. Otherwise you won't get the bonus 1second recharge every 25fury spent, which is the whole point of Avalanche in the first place !
[Edit]: I'll try both builds and determine after a couple hours each with is best XP/Leg earner per hour when i get home soon though !
982k DPS unbuffed, 10.2mill Toughness unbuffed ~ Horribly geared, Cheers!

The pure Frenzy dps one is actually ganking Ghom T3 fairly quickly. However, I can't seem to kill him fast enough and die before my potion has recharged in T4.

I'm curious if you're using a poison-reversal item of some kind? (you take poison dmg -> healed) etc?

Also, I'm noticing that Avalanche is not being used that often when in RMB? I had to manually force him to use it on one run.


Right now getting about 52mill more xp per hour than Tier2 Rift runs so I can't complain . I just wish I did more dmg or had more hp/healing to do Tier4 . I'm thinking my lack of Unity rings is the issue, but i just can't find them no many how many days I farm Kulle !

ps: I had to edit Battle Rage's ability code in trinity, else he kept spamming it and wasting fury. Below is the code I had to change:

public static bool CanCastBattleRage
{
    get
    {
        int timeSinceUse = SpellHistory.TimeSinceUse(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage).Milliseconds;
        if (timeSinceUse >= 110000 || !SpellHistory.HasUsedSpell(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage))
        {
            return !UseOOCBuff && !Player.IsIncapacitated && CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage, CanCastFlags.NoTimer) &&
                (
                    !GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage) ||
                    (Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpWOTB && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin") && GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_WrathOfTheBerserker)) ||
                    Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpAlways && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin")
                ) &&
                Player.PrimaryResource >= V.F("Barbarian.BattleRage.MinFury");
        }
        else
        {
            return false;
        }
    }
}

pss: Just timed it and T3 Ghom dies within 2seconds short of WOTB dropping, so 18second kills with reasonable gear...nothing amazing though.


psss: Heh, tons of edits!! Anyways, according to DB i'm making 46games per hour, each game giving 5.65mill exp. So i'm only getting 259.9mill per game from the quest alone. Haven't seen what I'm getting per ghom kill itself, but I imagine not anywhere near a million? So at max i'm doing what....300mill per hour? Meh ! I need to be able to do T4 Ghom within this timelimit to come close to Tier3 Hell Rifting I think xD!

Yes ava (and overpower somewhat) are optional to the build. However for me I kill ghom in 12 sec so ava is perfect and does the most damage in the time for its slot. Im at maybe 4m toughness doing T4. You need to put on demon+eloite damage gear. My unbuffed numbers are roughly 700k. Fully buffed fighting Ghom sheet dps is 1.7~m. Thats not much of an indication though because with everything going on im doing between 75-100million DPS to the poor fat fuck.

I really couldn't care less if you believe it or not, actually, close to being in the top 20, live with it son. As far as being schooled, i'm still waiting for it.

All I hear is you cry'n. WAHH WAHH

I am at full fury by the time I get to Ghom my fury tank is full already. By the time you stack Frenzy 5 times, I have Ghom at half HP already. The point is to burst as hard as you can, as fast as you can.

If youre at full fury when you get to *any* boss your runs are too slow.

Hey! I'm using the same setup as you are. Do you have a fix for the bot as it spams battle rage over and over instead of overpower?

I never had this problem so I dont know :/

 

[floppie]

In your trinity settings, uncheck fury dump (sprint) in the barb section. Worked for me.

It worked! Thanks dogling!