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Worth installing Windows 8.1? Performance dif?

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Clearcut

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I have a pretty beasty computer and am sitting on the wall in regards to upgrading to windows 8.1 or not. I have been offered a replacement windows 7 key from Microsoft due to an error on there behalf but was given a choice of getting a windows 8 key at no extra charge.

Which and why?
 
I've been using Windows 8.1 for quite a while now and I've gotta admit I do prefer it in some aspects. I've even started to arrange my start screen in a certain way so I can quickly access programs without a cluttered start bar. It's definitely worth it.
 
8.1 > 7 + 8

i wouldnt go back to any legacy os after 8.1 now

so so so much more streamline and faster now
 
well whichever has the most suggestions ill be installing again tonight when maintenance begins :)
 
Clearcut said:
I have a pretty beasty computer and am sitting on the wall in regards to upgrading to windows 8.1 or not. I have been offered a replacement windows 7 key from Microsoft due to an error on there behalf but was given a choice of getting a windows 8 key at no extra charge.

Which and why?
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No, it is not. I work for a large Enterprise level software company, and I can tell you that when we looked at moving to Windows8.1 it was shut down within a week. It is unintuitive and a LOT has been obfuscation away from the "Power User" to dumb Windows down to MAC level.

The "Performance" benefits are merely Microsoft taking the step for you, instead of doing it yourself for Windows7, and disabling systems you don't need right off the bat for boot ups, games, etc. With one of the new 1TB SSD's that are now only $400 on newegg I now have ZERO performance differences from Windows8.1 to my Windows7 Professional I used at home. Same boot times, same FPS, same load times, everything.

Windows8+ is worthless shit, unintuitive, and was an attempt to move towards a more "Closed-In" system, just...like...MAC.


Thankfully Windows9 has been admitted to be moving back towards a WindowsXP/Windows7 themeset and all of this unintuitive touch-screen bullshit, obfuscation, etc etc is being removed.


But that's just my professional opinion :D!
 
Win 7 prof ultimate edition (or whatever it's called)... then wait for 9..
 
Mojoguy01 said:
No, it is not. I work for a large Enterprise level software company, and I can tell you that when we looked at moving to Windows8.1 it was shut down within a week. It is unintuitive and a LOT has been obfuscation away from the "Power User" to dumb Windows down to MAC level.

The "Performance" benefits are merely Microsoft taking the step for you, instead of doing it yourself for Windows7, and disabling systems you don't need right off the bat for boot ups, games, etc. With one of the new 1TB SSD's that are now only $400 on newegg I now have ZERO performance differences from Windows8.1 to my Windows7 Professional I used at home. Same boot times, same FPS, same load times, everything.

Windows8+ is worthless shit, unintuitive, and was an attempt to move towards a more "Closed-In" system, just...like...MAC.


Thankfully Windows9 has been admitted to be moving back towards a WindowsXP/Windows7 themeset and all of this unintuitive touch-screen bullshit, obfuscation, etc etc is being removed.


But that's just my professional opinion :D!
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I hope they are not paying you then,

Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 with EUFI enabled will be atleast 2x faster then any OS that dose not support EUFI (Windows 7 does not support EUFI)

This is not an opinion this is FACT... So saying that windows 8 will not boot faster then windows 7 is utterly stupid, and leads me to believe the rest of the post is irrelevant...

People dont like 8.1 because they are too stupid to understand change...

+ windows 9 is built on windows 8.1 technology (im currently in external alpha testing for MS with Office E) so if your going to need to get use to it, because its how MS are going.
 
Thecamel said:
I hope they are not paying you then,

Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 with EUFI enabled will be atleast 2x faster then any OS that dose not support EUFI (Windows 7 does not support EUFI)

This is not an opinion this is FACT... So saying that windows 8 will not boot faster then windows 7 is utterly stupid, and leads me to believe the rest of the post is irrelevant...

People dont like 8.1 because they are too stupid to understand change...

+ windows 9 is built on windows 8.1 technology (im currently in external alpha testing for MS with Office E) so if your going to need to get use to it, because its how MS are going.
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EUFI is a newer firmware used to replace BIOS. Again, it obfiscates a lot of lower-level crap from you, and you have to bend over backwards to get legacy BIOS functionality again through it. It is ALSO very similar, and for this reason compared to, how MACs firmware works instead of having a BIOS.


That being said, the beneficial gains of EUFI over standard BIOS found in Win7 using an SSD is minimal at best, and you won't really see any difference between the two because of how fast SSD's are at read/writing. I booted my sister's new Win8.1 laptop up next to my Win7 machine at home and we saw them boot up at the same time. You can cry "bullshit" all day long, but the fact is we have physical tests to prove there really isn't a difference. In games we maybe saw that my Win7 machine was getting more than 30fps more than her in games like Diablo III, Arma III, Battlefield 4, etc etc. However, that's just because I've got two GTX760's in SLi :)! (ps: we have the same processor, and her ram is clocked slightly higher than mine...she paid a lot more lol)


So, no, you seem to be pretty hardcore fanboiing over Microsoft. I've been working with MS products since I was 6, and I hate MACs with a passion.

Microsoft has had a HUGE backlash over Windows8 in the corporate world. There's a reason WHY we hate it, and have refused outright "upgrade" offers for our corporation multiple times. They'd send us an "Evaluation" version to see if we wanted to switch, and 3 times in a row now we've given it a clear runthrough with the thought process of "oh maybe they've fixed it", but no...it's still awful.


Windows9 has been said to be going back towards Win7 operating scheme even if they're keeping EUFI, which I assume they will because it is newer and slightly more robust that BIOS, but that doesn't change the fact that WINDOWS 8 IS A PILE OF DOGSHIT.


Dot, period, the end...thanks :)!


ps: found a good article from last year comparing Win7 vs Win8.1 performance for gaming. It has, on average, a 3% boost in performance over Win7. The "choppiness" reported was due to bad Nvidia drivers for the GTX780 at the time that article was posted. Still a good read though: Boop +3% is negligible and isn't worth the headache that is WindowsMAC err I mean Windows8.1.
 
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headache ?

8.1 is fuck tonne more streamline then 7, not to mention half the hdd size. If you want the look of 7 then get start8, but you can boot to desktop same as 7 but i love the ease of the tiles but again its personal pref.

8.1 for me is 10x better then 7, and thats my opinion

this debate is going to be the same that old chestnut, nvidia or ati

well i was nvidia then 3 cards i had all burnt out, went ati - not a single issue so ofc i preferre and like ati

an opinion doesnt need a wall of text and someone to get proper pissy because someone doesnt agree with them.

the op simply wanted is it worth it yes or no, and a free cdkey for 8/8.1 is worth it imo, very much so
 
GIVEMEANAME said:
headache ?

8.1 is fuck tonne more streamline then 7, not to mention half the hdd size. If you want the look of 7 then get start8, but you can boot to desktop same as 7 but i love the ease of the tiles but again its personal pref.

8.1 for me is 10x better then 7, and thats my opinion

this debate is going to be the same that old chestnut, nvidia or ati

well i was nvidia then 3 cards i had all burnt out, went ati - not a single issue so ofc i preferre and like ati

an opinion doesnt need a wall of text and someone to get proper pissy because someone doesnt agree with them.

the op simply wanted is it worth it yes or no, and a free cdkey for 8/8.1 is worth it imo, very much so
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I wasn't getting pissy at all. I simply stated why I felt that way, and then someone else got pissy at me about what I listed.

Also, I've not met a single person yet who actually likes the tile system, so you're a first :D! I'm glad you're happy with it though :).

Lastly, you're exaggerating a bit with the "10x better" aspect. The overall flow is longer to do some of the same actions, and you have to bend over backwards to get a lot of the same functionality you had with Win7. Heck, there's even a modification now that is really popular that people are using just to mod their Operating system to work how they want it to with 8.1, you didn't have to do that with 7.

Not to mention the "performance" gains are, again, negligible speaking from a statistics point of view, raw numbers. Again, all of that aside as long as you personally like it that's cool, but I felt like explaining why I did not feel it is "worth it" for the OP to go for it. Most friends, family, and co-workers whom have tried Windows8 have all hated it.


Cheers~
 
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Mojoguy01 said:
I wasn't getting pissy at all. I simply stated why I felt that way, and then someone else got pissy at me about what I listed.

Also, I've not met a single person yet who actually likes the tile system, so you're a first :D! I'm glad you're happy with it though :).

Lastly, you're exaggerating a bit with the "10x better" aspect. The overall flow is longer to do some of the same actions, and you have to bend over backwards to get a lot of the same functionality you had with Win7. Heck, there's even a modification now that is really popular that people are using just to mod their Operating system to work how they want it to with 8.1, you didn't have to do that with 7.

Not to mention the "performance" gains are, again, negligible speaking from a statistics point of view, raw numbers. Again, all of that aside as long as you personally like it that's cool, but I felt like explaining why I did not feel it is "worth it" for the OP to go for it. Most friends, family, and co-workers whom have tried Windows8 have all hated it.


Cheers~
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Pissy wasnt necessarily aimed at you, but its one of them topics that derails fast.

I truly love 8.1, i use the skydrive (onedrive now), surface and mac with dual bootcamp win 8. The fact i can have cloud settings between all 3 is just brilliant, no random configs for each device, no trying to find where i saved something, so on so on.

End of the day its you the user that has to enjoy being at your comp, and using your comp, if 7 works for u great, if xp works for u then great again, ubuntu, red hat, osx blah blah you get the picture.
 
My only issue is that D3 doesn't like running for long amounts of time (need to restart it every so often, it gets buggy and laggy). I'm not sure if this is 8.1 or not, but i have a beasty computer and only notice this downfall with 8.1
 
I'm in the same boat as Mojoguy01. I work in an enterprise environment, and Windows 8.1 feels like it's aimed more at the commercial user rather than a structured environment. There are a lot of tweaks you can do to enhance the Win8 experience, but it's a pain in the neck. The only benefit I saw right out of the box with Win8 were boot times due to the OOB staged service loading, something you can also do in Win7. You just need to do it manually yourself.
 
shenobi said:
I'm in the same boat as Mojoguy01. I work in an enterprise environment, and Windows 8.1 feels like it's aimed more at the commercial user rather than a structured environment. There are a lot of tweaks you can do to enhance the Win8 experience, but it's a pain in the neck. The only benefit I saw right out of the box with Win8 were boot times due to the OOB staged service loading, something you can also do in Win7. You just need to do it manually yourself.
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Yea, my philosophy is that if you have to bend over backwards just to get basic functionality that isn't annoying or unintuitive to work then it is a failure as a commercial product. My grandparents in their 90s now were able to use Win7 out of the box. It says a lot when they were lost for 3hrs with Win8.1 when they were convinced by a "Sales Rep" at BestBuy to upgrade from Win7 -> Win8.1. Needless to say I got a call at work the next day asking me to come by and wipe their comps back to Win7. When they tried to return Win8 obviously the SalesRep said he couldn't because they used the key (something that isn't burned once per use) so they made a huge stink about it in the store (gotta love old people, right?) and they got their refund and a free external HDD out of it for an easier "downgrade" back to Win7.

Needless to say it was a fun conversation piece when I was wiping their PC and their laptop back to Win7 Home Editions :).
 
7>8 IMO, although i am a 7 user. I've heard bad things about 8.0, and i am completely ignorant on 8.1's performance and load usages.
 
8.1 > 7 or other versions all day.

Stop debating about whether or not 8/8.1 is worth the upgrade for a business/corporation, OP is not running a business, this is for personal use only. 8.1 is by far the best operating system Micro$oft has put out for personal use. People need to stop being baby dicks about the tile screen, I find it better than the previous start menu.
 
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