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Superbad 4.0 (Druid Routine)

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amputations said:
Never heard about Alexbot 0_o I think you should use Tyrael, thats what I do everytime I decide to raid with HB.
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Alexbot is a modification of Lazyraider. It does more dps by magically altering some code or something. It's nice on paper, but in a 25 man raid I think the latency got the better of it.
 
Handnavi, first of all, very good job, i love your routine, use it every day, and it rocks in raids ! but i have a questien, i got the new version of Tyrael, and it says that i should enable softlock or hardlock to improve dps/hps, do Superbad even support framelock ?
 
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Rewelicious said:
Handnavi, first of all, very good job, i love your routine, use it every day, and it rocks in raids ! but i have a questien, i got the new version of Tyrael, and it says that i should enable softlock or hardlock to improve dps/hps, do Superbad even support framelock ?
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Yes. Superbad supports framelock. Best results are with RaidBot, 15 TPS and framelock on. If you can handle more TPS - go for it. Wont change the DPS output much.

Parlour said:
Alexbot is a modification of Lazyraider. It does more dps by magically altering some code or something. It's nice on paper, but in a 25 man raid I think the latency got the better of it.
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Handnavi has mentioned before and I (25man heroic raiding) attest: RaidBot that is included with your HB download is just as good as Tyrael. Or Alexbot. Or any other bot. Best thing for raiding with this routine, is to keep a completely clear instal of HB with no plugins or profiles, with Singular and Superbad routines. Less shit you have running on HB, easier it is to identify the problem in case it does happen.
 
volkvin said:
Yes. Superbad supports framelock. Best results are with RaidBot, 15 TPS and framelock on. If you can handle more TPS - go for it. Wont change the DPS output much.



Handnavi has mentioned before and I (25man heroic raiding) attest: RaidBot that is included with your HB download is just as good as Tyrael. Or Alexbot. Or any other bot. Best thing for raiding with this routine, is to keep a completely clear instal of HB with no plugins or profiles, with Singular and Superbad routines. Less shit you have running on HB, easier it is to identify the problem in case it does happen.
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so you are saying Alexbot is the best one ? im currently running in 10man, and im using as i said Tyrael, but if there is something better then ill deffently going for that, so far, ive been running Tyrael, no framelock and on 90 TPS.
 
Rewelicious said:
so you are saying Alexbot is the best one ? im currently running in 10man, and im using as i said Tyrael, but if there is something better then ill deffently going for that, so far, ive been running Tyrael, no framelock and on 90 TPS.
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Hey Rewelicious!

1.) You have to activate Framelock - thats really important.
2.) If you are using Tyrael please choose Softlock and deactivate Hardlock
3.) You can set your TPS lower. If you activate Framelock 15-20 TPS should be fine. If your computer can handle more, its okay. But its not a big gain. 20 TPS means, that the Routine will be executed 20 times per second. This is fucking fast. :P
If your computer cant handle ~90TPS it will lag.
4.) I prefer Raidbot, Alexbot and Tyrael. I doubt one of them is better. Its just like choosing a religion. Prefer what you like. ;-) (My choice is Tyrael).
5.) :-)
 
Obliv said:
Berserk isn't activating after the update for me. Here's the log:
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Hey Obliv, i have introduced some new (and cool!) settings for Cooldowns.
Berserk is not used, because your target will die soon.
You can try to lower the "target time to die" values @ GUI.
Set it to 0, if Berserk should be used on cooldown.

I will add some more logging stuff to the HB window, so that you can see the estimated time to die of your target.

Thanks for taking the time to post a logfile. :-)
 
Parlour said:
You are doing God's work Handnavi, I can't express how impressed I am with this routine. Keep it up!!

Just as a question, which raiding bot base do you find this routine works best with? On target dummy's I find Alexbot does more DPS, but in raids Tyrael seems like it might be more stable. Alexbot had me sitting at 100 energy due to lag I guess so I switched to Tyrael and it seemed to work fine.
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Hey Parlour,

as stated above: i use Tyrael in most situations
Turn on Softlock.
Choose 15-30 TPS.

Win win win. :-)
Have a nice day
 
handnavi said:
Hey Rewelicious!

1.) You have to activate Framelock - thats really important.
2.) If you are using Tyrael please choose Softlock and deactivate Hardlock
3.) You can set your TPS lower. If you activate Framelock 15-20 TPS should be fine. If your computer can handle more, its okay. But its not a big gain. 20 TPS means, that the Routine will be executed 20 times per second. This is fucking fast. :P
If your computer cant handle ~90TPS it will lag.
4.) I prefer Raidbot, Alexbot and Tyrael. I doubt one of them is better. Its just like choosing a religion. Prefer what you like. ;-) (My choice is Tyrael).
5.) :-)
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Thank you very much Handnavi, this is really helpful for me, im currently sitting and testing the 3 type of raid bots atm with a 5min interval and then i will get back with results ! but thank you again very much !
 
Been sitting and testing my Feral druid with the diffrent Bots there is: Alexbot, Tyrael and Raidbot with a 5min on each.
My druid is currently 551 Ilvl, dont have Legendary, i had Spring Blossom flask on me ( 1000 Agi ) and i got engineering for synapsis spring.
The only 2 "Cooldowns" i have used is Tiger's Fury and Synapsis spring, nothing els!
And this was done with a fresh install of HB, with no plugin's and ONLY sinclare and Superbad as routines in folder

The way i started out, healing my self with 'Healing Touch' for the 'Dream of Cenarious' Buff, went cat form, popped savage roar, go in to stealth and open with Ravage

All 3 bots i have been running with Framelock on 50 TPS in stormwind ( running around 115 FPS in game ) on level 85 dummy single target ofcause!

Alexbot = 219k dps
Tyrael = 212k dps
Raidbot = 228k dps

so after Handnavi's good explaining to me about framelock, i will deffently be running with Raidbot from now on :P
 
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Rewel were those just Target dummy tests? I've done similar tests, at 6 min for each bot and had very different results. Feral DPS can be pretty random so I took off my trinkets for the purpose of the tests and had Alexbot come out as the highest DPS. Regardless I think I will take Handnavi's advice and stick with Tyrael :)
 
I think having the new Thrash option to only be used with Omen of Clarity procs actually seems to lower the DPS. Just from my testing on Paragons and Garrosh Heroic last night. Still good DPS, but enabling Thrash to have high uptime put me back up on the meters - this isn't even cleaving other bosses, I am single targeting Paragons away from others.
 
eckoro said:
I think having the new Thrash option to only be used with Omen of Clarity procs actually seems to lower the DPS. Just from my testing on Paragons and Garrosh Heroic last night. Still good DPS, but enabling Thrash to have high uptime put me back up on the meters - this isn't even cleaving other bosses, I am single targeting Paragons away from others.
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Mhhh, might be. For me its the other way around. :-)
 
I don't know what happened, but before, my dps was 263k on iron juggernaut, now its down to 194k with a new heroic warforged weapon.

I haven't changed any settings from the normal, from what I can see though is that its letting dots fall of for ~4 seconds before reapplying them.
After looking at the logs i can see that it was trying to swipe the single target dummy.
 
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Ganom said:
I don't know what happened, but before, my dps was 263k on iron juggernaut, now its down to 194k with a new heroic warforged weapon.

I haven't changed any settings from the normal, from what I can see though is that its letting dots fall of for ~4 seconds before reapplying them.
After looking at the logs i can see that it was trying to swipe the single target dummy.
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May i look at your log? I cant help you if you dont provide a full log file. (The details you send me via pm are not enough - i really need a log file. ;-))
 
Ganom said:
I don't know what happened, but before, my dps was 263k on iron juggernaut, now its down to 194k with a new heroic warforged weapon.

I haven't changed any settings from the normal, from what I can see though is that its letting dots fall of for ~4 seconds before reapplying them.
After looking at the logs i can see that it was trying to swipe the single target dummy.
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If you are at Shrine it can detect the other 2 next to it - or check you don't have AoE mode turned on.
 
Is there any way to make this routine completely ignore cat form and only stay in guardian? I can't seem to get it to sit in bear form, even if I have "change to bear form when 1 mob is present and 100% hp".
 
UncoTomato said:
Is there any way to make this routine completely ignore cat form and only stay in guardian? I can't seem to get it to sit in bear form, even if I have "change to bear form when 1 mob is present and 100% hp".
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you just go to in Class Config > General, and in the top left corner, there is something called "Form Settings" just set it to bear form :)
 
In pvp, is there a way to let the routine only attack players? (ignoring totems/treants/trap snakes/player pets etc.)
Thxz
 
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