Honorbuddy is going downhill

[ninjabredman]

man i missed pirox and wowplus

those were amazing hacks/bots

at the moment i really miss honorbuddy -___- hope they can fix this soon, levelling is getting boring as hell haha

 

[Shifftybuga]

Maybe its time for yourself to grow up, and stop thinking as 8years old kid! If you are 8years old kid for real, then let the adults think about such problems, instead of you, kid!

Does automobe factories stopping production after the rush hour jam on the highway?

If you are going to try to insult/flame someone, please take the time to ensure that you actually make sense. ( I suggest the Preview Post button)

To address your comment. If that same factory produced cars that had an inherent fault and the factory was unable to find/fix the fault, they would indeed stop production of that car until the fault was fixed.

So once again even taken from this angel your argument/statement holds no merit.

I myself am very happy with Honorbuddy, even with it flaws, as I always try to monitor my accounts, playing my main and only using Honorbuddy on my others while I'm around.

That being said, I am sure we all hope some of these re occurring issues can be resolved some time soon. Especially the BG issues

 

[pythonmsh]

To address your comment. If that same factory produced cars that had an inherent fault and the factory was unable to find/fix the fault, they would indeed stop production of that car until the fault was fixed.

Exactly. Back when I used to make trailers for komfort they'd do the same thing.

 

[mrkian]

Pirox, that until they were shut down by Blizzard. Wasn't nearly as user friendly and bots weren't nearly as active in BGs as they are today. And there's a good chance that it probably would of happened to Pirox as well. But things need to be changed a little bit for inflation.



Ignoring problems is just as bad. Sad to say most of my replies are 13 year olds, it's obvious.

I'm not saying Honorbuddy is extremely bad by any means but BGbuddy needs some love. You can tell right from the start who's a bot. They all stack together. A good chunk of BGs I'm in you read in chat that people are calling out the behaviors of bots.

Stacking together
Running at the same spot
Taking the same path

I personally watch the bot and will move the bot a bit away from the other bots at the start.

Inb4 "MAK UR OWN PROFILE NUB l2P DUN USE B0T LULZ"

Ah yes, I am the one acting childish.

What you are doing is making an outlandish statement with absolutely no empirical evidence. How do you know or even quantify your claim that more people are getting banned everyday? Do you even know the aggregate number of HB users? Have you put the time and research in to make your claim? What was the average number of user bans per day, week, and year, compared to now?

You know none of these numbers, no one really does. If you are going to make an extraordinary claim, back it up with empirical evidence.

 

[pythonmsh]

Ah yes, I am the one acting childish.

What you are doing is making an outlandish statement with absolutely no empirical evidence. How do you know or even quantify your claim that more people are getting banned everyday? Do you even know the aggregate number of HB users? Have you put the time and research in to make your claim? What was the average number of user bans per day, week, and year, compared to now?

You know none of these numbers, no one really does. If you are going to make an extraordinary claim, back it up with empirical evidence.

Ban forums are becoming more and more active.
Most people won't report their ban.
A very large chunk of players know how to spot bots in battlegrounds with their current behavior. Get enough reports and you will get banned. A very large chunk of battlegrounds that I am in the bots are getting reported.

You'd be blind to think that things don't need to be changed with the amount of players using the bot right now. Quit trying to talk big, you're best off sitting down.

 

[ninjabredman]

They need some better pathing for BGbots, i like how Pirox had 3-4 paths for each BG and it would randomize it every time, that was pretty good

I recall for HB they use "run to nearest battle" or something and all the bots would run at the same time to the same spot and it just made it abit too obvious

 

[pythonmsh]

I recall for HB they use "run to nearest battle" or something and all the bots would run at the same time to the same spot and it just made it abit too obvious

Which I feel like works great for a healer.

 

[Shifftybuga]

They need some better pathing for BGbots, i like how Pirox had 3-4 paths for each BG and it would randomize it every time, that was pretty good

I recall for HB they use "run to nearest battle" or something and all the bots would run at the same time to the same spot and it just made it abit too obvious

Now that's sounds like a great fix. Seeing as I know nothing about coding, would that be hard to implement with Honorbuddy?

 

[ninjabredman]

Which I feel like works great for a healer.

whilst that's true unfortunately the matter in which the bots run there makes it obvious cos they kinda circle around a spot, pause, then run off at once,

alert lights flashing when that happens haha.

i want pirox pathing!!! Spirit res, load path, runs and attacks everything in it's way.

 

[pythonmsh]

Now that's sounds like a great fix. Seeing as I know nothing about coding, would that be hard to implement with Honorbuddy?

I'd imagine you could essentially just make 4 different profiles per BG
Write something so the bot would randomly choose between the four at the start of each BG or each death. One of the biggest give away is the start and especially when they travel together. Once you fix that I feel like you're on the road to a better BGbot.
Possibly linking all the bots together so honorbuddy can detect if that players a bot or not? If it detects it is it'll split up to a different path.(I feel that something like that would be near impossible if not risky if blizzard ever gets its hands on it."

Along with stopping the bot from going back and fourth a few times.
Making sure the bot goes to the correct places.

It's not so much how the bot plays that's noticeable. I've been watching my undergeared MW monk play with the TuanHA CR and he will top heals if not very close every single BG. And shit he's still usin the blue BOA staff. 13-15mil healing a bg is not that bad at all, especially for a bot.

 

[ninjabredman]

i thought BGbuddy doesnt use profiles, it just runs the CR

 

[pythonmsh]

i thought BGbuddy doesnt use profiles, it just runs the CR

I don't think so? But I could be wrong. I think the CR is just how the bot players each class/spec.

 

[ninjabredman]

yea cos i noticed with BGBuddy you cant load profiles like gatherbuddy, what happens is it just queues you to whatever you wanted to bg and then the CR takes over once you zone in.

 

[webhond]

The bots dont run together like they used to in a train, but i rather see that again then this shit.

Saying this again, first 20 secs of a bg you spot the bots. Most do now. Stop being retarded.
Make sure the start path into the game is flawless, but it isnt. Its like this for a year and you dont give 2 cents about it.
Bots run in, out, in , out, stop, in , and then outside. O god, did a IoC by hand.. do you devs even join those bg's to see how
messed up this crap is. There is in that bg for instance, absolutely no good movement the first 40 secs.

And all that move to fight thingy... you run in... and 25 on top of you, tunnel vision... ye, no one will see that.

People who say i bot in bg and its working fine are just lying, its retarded, this together with a auto buy gear plugin and
your one big monkey. They spot you the second you join. Not moving at start, no gems, greenies with it.
Hb should remove bg buddy, period, untill its fixed. But seems like you dont know how to,... 1 year, this crap, and still not fixed.

Could post a lot more, but no dev will read this anyway, so i rather Q up with the bots again....

Dev's, i dare you, run all bg's once, stand in the start spot and wait till all are out. See who moves where and how and then
tell me if this is working as intended. It doesnt take a bot to spot a bot no more, that time is LONG gone!

 

[ninjabredman]

yea... you should omit IOC when you do bgbuddy, i omit IOC and temple cos temple was buggy before, we get the resource limit but the game keeps going until timer runs out and then noone wins, wasted time

i think if you wanted exp / honor you should queue AVs only, bots arent as easily spotted

 

[webhond]

yea cos i noticed with BGBuddy you cant load profiles like gatherbuddy, what happens is it just queues you to whatever you wanted to bg and then the CR takes over once you zone in.

bg buddy has his path's , the cr takes over in combat, nothing more.

 

[pythonmsh]

The bots dont run together like they used to in a train, but i rather see that again then this shit.

Saying this again, first 20 secs of a bg you spot the bots. Most do now. Stop being retarded.
Make sure the start path into the game is flawless, but it isnt. Its like this for a year and you dont give 2 cents about it.
Bots run in, out, in , out, stop, in , and then outside. O god, did a IoC by hand.. do you devs even join those bg's to see how
messed up this crap is. There is in that bg for instance, absolutely no good movement the first 40 secs.

And all that move to fight thingy... you run in... and 25 on top of you, tunnel vision... ye, no one will see that.

People who say i bot in bg and its working fine are just lying, its retarded, this together with a auto buy gear plugin and
your one big monkey. They spot you the second you join. Not moving at start, no gems, greenies with it.
Hb should remove bg buddy, period, untill its fixed. But seems like you dont know how to,... 1 year, this crap, and still not fixed.

Could post a lot more, but no dev will read this anyway, so i rather Q up with the bots again....

Dev's, i dare you, run all bg's once, stand in the start spot and wait till all are out. See who moves where and how and then
tell me if this is working as intended. It doesnt take a bot to spot a bot no more, that time is LONG gone!

I'm not being retarded, I'm just saying. The only thing devs will do is ask for logs and that's it. They're not willing to go and see what's happening with their own eyes and work off that.

The current bot setup worked great when there was very little people botting bgs. Now it's spread like the black plague.

 

[reddewman]

The only problem I see is how effective the "bot" performs. What I mean by that is how often the bot will preform a spell, meaning it always interrupts a spell cast right as a spell is being casted and will do so time and time again. This comes from a skilled "juke" healer that loves "juking" my abilities, when you have a "bot" that reacts almost instantly every time at the same part of the cast allowing no room for error usually points to some sort of bot. When I'm playing my rogue or warrior I'll miss my share of interrupts as well as landing successful interrupts. I understand with everything being effected by the GCD means you can only do so much, but when a "bot" literally performs the same function over and over throughout the duration of the fight and never skips a beat!

I've mentioned this years back about community users relying on a small percentage of dedicated members on creating customclasses or what we now call it as a combat routine has not only grown thin but demanding as well. You can only do so much with what you're given, I also suggested a newer way on how combat routines can be created or how honor buddy reads it, the way I look at is if more people had ways to build there own combat routines and less of the same people bitching about others faults then the community would balance its self out, people wouldn't bitch at someone for a ban because the profile is sketchy and same for the CC.

Me personally, I've been bottling since TBC and never once got a single ban or suspension. Weeks where I was bottling 17 hours a day farming the same shit for years. Yes I've cut back a TON since this expansion, but if you think this sucks? Should've been around during Glider days!

It's called marketing, you can't produce something and only allow a select few to own it, unless you're CARTMAN.

 

[pythonmsh]

The only problem I see is how effective the "bot" performs. What I mean by that is how often the bot will preform a spell, meaning it always interrupts a spell cast right as a spell is being casted and will do so time and time again. This comes from a skilled "juke" healer that loves "juking" my abilities, when you have a "bot" that reacts almost instantly every time at the same part of the cast allowing no room for error usually points to some sort of bot. When I'm playing my rogue or warrior I'll miss my share of interrupts as well as landing successful interrupts. I understand with everything being effected by the GCD means you can only do so much, but when a "bot" literally performs the same function over and over throughout the duration of the fight and never skips a beat!

I personally disabled my interrupts for that reason.

Me personally, I've been bottling since TBC and never once got a single ban or suspension. Weeks where I was bottling 17 hours a day farming the same shit for years. Yes I've cut back a TON since this expansion, but if you think this sucks? Should've been around during Glider days!

Wrath for me and no bans. But back in the vanilla/bc days I actually enjoyed the things I bot today. For the most part anyway. But when I stop having fun and it starts feeling like an endless grind I'll turn the bot on.

It's called marketing, you can't produce something and only allow a select few to own it, unless you're CARTMAN.

Right but it's gotten huge and things need to change. You can't get mad at EVERY single person not making their own profiles for BGs.

 

[reddewman]

I personally disabled my interrupts for that reason.



Wrath for me and no bans. But back in the vanilla/bc days I actually enjoyed the things I bot today. For the most part anyway. But when I stop having fun and it starts feeling like an endless grind I'll turn the bot on.

Again I think everyone has there own preference as to what they use the bot for. I do think it'll be a long ass time for when any game community can fully 100% AFK any MMO. you got your ups and downs, just like anything.