[A1 Inferno]FallenDev's, Bossqwerty-spiced FoM zorked edition -> MP10 E-skipping

bombastic · Nov 5, 2013

I simply cannot understand how u guys are getting IPH that high... 1900, 2000??

My alltime IPH is 1700 (only once), 1500~1600 as average.

I got 649k dps buffed, 2.407.840 tDPS, 737k ehp. I'm using a skorn, already did some simulations at d3rawr.com with an 100 mil MH echoing fury (str/cd/socket) and a 1300+ OH. As far as i know, I lose dps and tdps.

My build is ww/sprint/zerk/brawler/rend/lacerate.

Can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong? :/

grindman002 · Nov 5, 2013

thats possibly because you get more dps with EF in the offhand since your tornados will tick faster and the fear will proc about 90% less.

anybody know what I should run with a monk to get him to be efficiant?

Ronso · Nov 5, 2013

ww6 version with these tweaks

Code:

===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 9h 58m 52s
Total deaths: 15 [1,5 per hour]
Total games (approx): 113 [11,32 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 6709,83 Thousand [672,25 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 20773 [2081,21 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 1235 [123,73 per hour] {5,95 %}
- ilvl59: 518 [51,9 per hour] {2,49 %}
- ilvl60: 3176 [318,2 per hour] {15,29 %}
- ilvl61: 7023 [703,62 per hour] {33,81 %}
- ilvl62: 5505 [551,54 per hour] {26,5 %}
- ilvl63: 3316 [332,22 per hour] {15,96 %}

Items dropped by quality: 
- White: 6476 [648,82 per hour] {31,18 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 269 [26,95 per hour] {1,29 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 107 [10,72 per hour] {0,52 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 727 [72,84 per hour] {3,5 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 2189 [219,31 per hour] {10,54 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 1926 [192,96 per hour] {9,27 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 1258 [126,04 per hour] {6,06 %}
- Magic: 11577 [1159,88 per hour] {55,73 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 738 [73,94 per hour] {3,55 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 325 [32,56 per hour] {1,56 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 2010 [201,38 per hour] {9,68 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 3946 [395,34 per hour] {19 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 2888 [289,34 per hour] {13,9 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 1670 [167,31 per hour] {8,04 %}
- Rare: 2649 [265,4 per hour] {12,75 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 222 [22,24 per hour] {1,07 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 86 [8,62 per hour] {0,41 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 425 [42,58 per hour] {2,05 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 882 [88,37 per hour] {4,25 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 672 [67,33 per hour] {3,23 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 362 [36,27 per hour] {1,74 %}
- Legendary: 71 [7,11 per hour] {0,34 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 6 [0,6 per hour] {0,03 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 14 [1,4 per hour] {0,07 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 6 [0,6 per hour] {0,03 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 19 [1,9 per hour] {0,09 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 26 [2,6 per hour] {0,13 %}

Potion Drops:
Total potions: 458 [45,89 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 458 [45,89 per hour] {100 %}

Gem Drops:
Total gems: 155 [15,53 per hour]
- Ruby: 47 [4,71 per hour] {30,32 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 47 [4,71 per hour] {30,32 %}
- Topaz: 42 [4,21 per hour] {27,1 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 42 [4,21 per hour] {27,1 %}
- Amethyst: 37 [3,71 per hour] {23,87 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 37 [3,71 per hour] {23,87 %}
- Emerald: 29 [2,91 per hour] {18,71 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 29 [2,91 per hour] {18,71 %}


===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 278 [27,85 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 12 [1,2 per hour] {4,32 %}
- ilvl60: 44 [4,41 per hour] {15,83 %}
- ilvl61: 39 [3,91 per hour] {14,03 %}
- ilvl62: 102 [10,22 per hour] {36,69 %}
- ilvl63: 81 [8,12 per hour] {29,14 %}

Items picked up by quality: 
- Rare: 210 [21,04 per hour] {75,54 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 6 [0,6 per hour] {2,16 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 32 [3,21 per hour] {11,51 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 33 [3,31 per hour] {11,87 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 83 [8,32 per hour] {29,86 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 56 [5,61 per hour] {20,14 %}
- Legendary: 68 [6,81 per hour] {24,46 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 6 [0,6 per hour] {2,16 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 12 [1,2 per hour] {4,32 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 6 [0,6 per hour] {2,16 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 19 [1,9 per hour] {6,83 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 25 [2,5 per hour] {8,99 %}

Potion Pickups:
Total potions: 70 [7,01 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 70 [7,01 per hour] {100 %}

===== End Of Report =====

Not so bad with my shitty barb =D

bombastic · Nov 5, 2013

grindman002 said:
thats possibly because you get more dps with EF in the offhand since your tornados will tick faster and the fear will proc about 90% less.

Fear will proc less? What?

diegomzl · Nov 5, 2013

how many IK pieces u guys using? and rings?
the thing I wanna know must is how many att speed pieces I need..
I know that I need a mace MH and a +0.25 EF OffHand.

gtstranger · Nov 6, 2013

no IK set (chest, but wanna craft)

===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 3h 32m 7s
Total deaths: 1 [0,28 per hour]
Total games (approx): 40 [11,31 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 2949,82 Thousand [834,38 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 7071 [2000,09 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 401 [113,43 per hour] {5,67 %}
- ilvl59: 175 [49,5 per hour] {2,47 %}
- ilvl60: 1102 [311,71 per hour] {15,58 %}
- ilvl61: 2407 [680,84 per hour] {34,04 %}
- ilvl62: 1866 [527,81 per hour] {26,39 %}
- ilvl63: 1120 [316,8 per hour] {15,84 %}

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 2298 [650,01 per hour] {32,5 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 93 [26,31 per hour] {1,32 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 52 [14,71 per hour] {0,74 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 260 [73,54 per hour] {3,68 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 829 [234,49 per hour] {11,72 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 624 [176,5 per hour] {8,82 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 440 [124,46 per hour] {6,22 %}
- Magic: 3864 [1092,96 per hour] {54,65 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 227 [64,21 per hour] {3,21 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 99 [28 per hour] {1,4 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 686 [194,04 per hour] {9,7 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 1294 [366,02 per hour] {18,3 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 1009 [285,4 per hour] {14,27 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 549 [155,29 per hour] {7,76 %}
- Rare: 887 [250,9 per hour] {12,54 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 81 [22,91 per hour] {1,15 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 24 [6,79 per hour] {0,34 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 153 [43,28 per hour] {2,16 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 282 [79,77 per hour] {3,99 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 230 [65,06 per hour] {3,25 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 117 [33,09 per hour] {1,65 %}
- Legendary: 22 [6,22 per hour] {0,31 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 3 [0,85 per hour] {0,04 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 2 [0,57 per hour] {0,03 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 3 [0,85 per hour] {0,04 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 14 [3,96 per hour] {0,2 %}

Potion Drops:
Total potions: 173 [48,93 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 173 [48,93 per hour] {100 %}

Gem Drops:
Total gems: 74 [20,93 per hour]
- Ruby: 16 [4,53 per hour] {21,62 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 16 [4,53 per hour] {21,62 %}
- Topaz: 22 [6,22 per hour] {29,73 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 22 [6,22 per hour] {29,73 %}
- Amethyst: 17 [4,81 per hour] {22,97 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 17 [4,81 per hour] {22,97 %}
- Emerald: 19 [5,37 per hour] {25,68 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 19 [5,37 per hour] {25,68 %}

===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 196 [55,44 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl:
- ilvl60: 27 [7,64 per hour] {13,78 %}
- ilvl61: 69 [19,52 per hour] {35,2 %}
- ilvl62: 53 [14,99 per hour] {27,04 %}
- ilvl63: 47 [13,29 per hour] {23,98 %}

Items picked up by quality:
- Rare: 175 [49,5 per hour] {89,29 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 24 [6,79 per hour] {12,24 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 67 [18,95 per hour] {34,18 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 50 [14,14 per hour] {25,51 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 34 [9,62 per hour] {17,35 %}
- Legendary: 21 [5,94 per hour] {10,71 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 3 [0,85 per hour] {1,53 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 2 [0,57 per hour] {1,02 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 3 [0,85 per hour] {1,53 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 13 [3,68 per hour] {6,63 %}

(note: 80 follower items ignored for being ilvl <60 or blue)
Potion Pickups:
Total potions: 63 [17,82 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 63 [17,82 per hour] {100 %}

===== End Of Report =====

grindman002 · Nov 6, 2013

bombastic said:
Fear will proc less? What?

when you play a barb your main dps source is the tornados, and your whirlwind and lucky for barbs fear doesn't proc from the tornados or the WW only times I see it proc is right after I rend(the start up of the WW or maybe the initial rend hit is doing it).
your tornados tick faster because the EF is used for hitting higher APS breakpoints and your WW swing speed is based on the weapon that is about to be swung(the echoing fury) which usually has about 1.4-1.5 APS.
if you are curious about what the APS breakpoints are

Whirlwind
Ticks
per sec Ticks
total min. APS AS needed
MH AS needed
OH
2.4 0.76924 -98% -94%
2.5 0.80001 -96% -92%
2.61 0.83334 -94% -90%
2.73 0.86957 -91% -87%
2.86 0.9091 -89% -84%
3 0.95239 -86% -81%
3.16 1.00001 -83% -78%
3.33 1.05264 -79% -74%
3.53 1.11112 -75% -70%
3.75 1.17648 -71% -66%
4 1.25001 -66% -60%
4.29 1.33334 -61% -55%
4.62 1.42858 -55% -48%
5 1.53847 -47% -40%
5.45 1.66667 -39% -31%
6 1.81819 -29% -20%
6.67 2.00001 -17% -8%
OH 6.67 2.1158 ↓
7.5 2.22223 -2% 8%
MH 7.5 2.2648 ↓
8.57 2.50001 16% 28%
10 2.85715 39% 53%
12 3.33334 71% 86%
15 4.00001 115% 133%
20 5.00001 180% 204%
30 6.66667 290% 321%
60 10.00001 509% 556%

sprint with run like the wind

Ticks
per sec Ticks
total min. APS AS needed
MH AS needed
OH
2.4 8 0.76924 -98% -94%
2.5 8 0.80001 -96% -92%
2.61 8 0.83334 -94% -90%
2.73 9 0.86957 -91% -87%
2.86 9 0.9091 -89% -84%
3 9 0.95239 -86% -81%
3.16 10 1.00001 -83% -78%
3.33 10 1.05264 -79% -74%
3.53 11 1.11112 -75% -70%
3.75 12 1.17648 -71% -66%
4 12 1.25001 -66% -60%
4.29 13 1.33334 -61% -55%
4.62 14 1.42858 -55% -48%
5 15 1.53847 -47% -40%
5.45 17 1.66667 -39% -31%
6 18 1.81819 -29% -20%
6.67 20 2.00001 -17% -8%
OH 6.67 20 2.1158 ↓
7.5 23 2.22223 -2% 8%
MH 7.5 23 2.2648 ↓
8.57 26 2.50001 16% 28%
10 30 2.85715 39% 53%
12 36 3.33334 71% 86%
15 45 4.00001 115% 133%
20 60 5.00001 180% 204%
30 90 6.66667 290% 321%
60 180 10.00001 509% 556%

the MH and OH are what mine are at right now.

canibalistic · Nov 6, 2013

I simply cannot understand how u guys are getting IPH that high... 1900, 2000??

My alltime IPH is 1700 (only once), 1500~1600 as average.

I got 649k dps buffed, 2.407.840 tDPS, 737k ehp. I'm using a skorn, already did some simulations at d3rawr.com with an 100 mil MH echoing fury (str/cd/socket) and a 1300+ OH. As far as i know, I lose dps and tdps.

My build is ww/sprint/zerk/brawler/rend/lacerate.

Can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong? :/

Im using skorn barb with nat boots/ring , 4 set IK , 613k dps buffed.
Damage: 473447.78
tDPS: 1882375
Effective Health: 678291 around 1.3deaths/hr

Break point for me
4.62 1.42858 0%
MH 4.62 1.43 ↓
5 1.53847 11%

Running with around 1800-1900 Iph in logs over 24 stretches.
Since u got better dps/ehp than me, u should get better results=)
So, mabye its the profile and trinity settings u should try out, the settings Immortal posted, both trinity and the small tweaks in this thread

bombastic · Nov 6, 2013

canibalistic said:
Running with around 1800-1900 Iph in logs over 24 stretches.
Since u got better dps/ehp than me, u should get better results=)
So, mabye its the profile and trinity settings u should try out, the settings Immortal posted, both trinity and the small tweaks in this thread

I"m using exactly his configs. Always getting 1700 or less. Now I switched my skorn for a 1400+ dps weapon (with ruby), 1.2 as, 50 cd, 100 str and an OH sword with 1.51 as, slot, 140 str and 97 cd.

Guess what? Same thing!

===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 5h 21,00m 53s
Total deaths: 17 [3,17 per hour]
Total games (approx): 42 [7,83 per hour]
Total XP gained: 12,01 million [2,24 million per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 8973 [1672,57 per hour]

I'm going crazy with this.......

sebflex · Nov 6, 2013

35er breakpoints party yoyo

canibalistic · Nov 6, 2013

Just a question, did u buy a skorn with attack speed? ?
If u did, then it might be the thing, cause on a rend skorn build, att speed would result in lower dps rend.

And as i see it, with skorn, rend is a big deal, compared to if u got dualwield

sebflex · Nov 6, 2013

2 1h works better for me

canibalistic · Nov 6, 2013

seb. ofc 1h's is better. but 10 times as more exspensive than a skorn with the same dps, its a whole other discossion than what we're talking about right now.

i got 1800-1900 IPH for aroudn 600m total price of iteems, would be alot more if i did 1hs

sebflex · Nov 6, 2013

worldfirst 1h ofc

bombastic · Nov 6, 2013

canibalistic said:
Just a question, did u buy a skorn with attack speed? ?
If u did, then it might be the thing, cause on a rend skorn build, att speed would result in lower dps rend.

And as i see it, with skorn, rend is a big deal, compared to if u got dualwield

I'm not using skorn anymore! I switched from skorn to a 2 wield build (see my previous post)

Skorn:

∅ Number of Tornadoes: 3.5
Damage with MH ticks*: 3994170
Damage with OH ticks*: 0
DPS with MH ticks*: 1331390
DPS with OH ticks*: 0
Ticks per Second: 5.45 MH / 0 OH breakpoints

2 wield:

∅ Number of Tornadoes: 3.5
Damage with MH ticks*: 3850761
Damage with OH ticks*: 5134353
DPS with MH ticks*: 1283587
DPS with OH ticks*: 1711451
Ticks per Second: 7.5 MH / 10 OH breakpoints

....and I'm still getting 1600~1700 tops.

Can anyone pointing what i am doing wrong?

canibalistic · Nov 6, 2013

=) ill be changeing to 1hs as soon i got cash for some decent ones, could u post your stats on weps or even what kinda price we're talkin? Not completely sure what to go for

But i cant see whats falling you behind compared to my drops, sorry

gtstranger · Nov 6, 2013

~2100-2150 iph using 40mil cost for both weapons (19mil rare mace, 21 or 23mil echo)

0.29 dph \ 1060k EHP

MH: mace 988 average dmg (720-1250) with 55cd and socket (1170 dps at all)
OH: str echo 890dps +0.25 60cd socket

***

immortalhz's ww6 normal profile
600 delays in variables
custom immortalhz's weighting.cs
custom immortalhz's trinity 1.7.3.8
trinity routine v1.2 (last)
immortalhz's trinity settings (as on his screenshot)
clear DB .317

***

Number of Tornadoes: 3.5
Damage with MH ticks*: 4687914
Damage with OH ticks*: 4687914
DPS with MH ticks*: 1562638
DPS with OH ticks*: 1562638
Ticks per Second: 8.57 MH / 8.57 OH breakpoints
Life gained by LoH: 849 HP per second
Life gained by LS: 9376 HP per second
Damage Range: 6625 - 12447
43129 - 81031 crit

***

Damage with MH ticks*: 3850761

too low for more than 1800iph i think, i have ~4700000 on both

sebflex · Nov 6, 2013

∅ Number of Tornadoes: 3.5
Damage with MH ticks*: 5910114
Damage with OH ticks*: 5064969
DPS with MH ticks*: 1970038
DPS with OH ticks*: 1688323
Ticks per Second: 10 MH / 8.57 OH breakpoints

stats with high ehp gear...

immortalhz · Nov 6, 2013

....and I'm still getting 1600~1700 tops.

Can anyone pointing what i am doing wrong?

sorry, i din't write that my barbariancombat is only for 2x 1h and in MH we should have 1.3+ aps and in OH - EoF with max stats

my bot casts sprint only from MH!

people with skorn or with EoF in MH, should use standart Sprint section in barbariancombat.cs
for skorn - better fury dump, for EoF in MH - 50% chance to cast sprint with OH

Code:

public static bool CanUseSprint
        {
            get
            {
                return !UseOOCBuff && CanCast(SNOPower.Barbarian_Sprint, CanCastFlags.NoTimer) && !Player.IsIncapacitated &&
                    (
                    // last power used was whirlwind and we don't have sprint up
                        (LastPowerUsed == SNOPower.Barbarian_Whirlwind && !GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_Sprint)) ||
                    // Fury Dump Options for sprint: use at max energy constantly
                        (Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpWOTB && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin") && GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_WrathOfTheBerserker)) ||
                        (Settings.Combat.Barbarian.FuryDumpAlways && Player.PrimaryResourcePct >= V.F("Barbarian.WOTB.FuryDumpMin")) ||
                    // or on a timer
                        (
                         (SNOPowerUseTimer(SNOPower.Barbarian_Sprint) && !GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_Sprint)) &&
                    // Always keep up if we are whirlwinding, if the target is a goblin, or if we are more than 16 feet away from the target
                         (Hotbar.Contains(SNOPower.Barbarian_Whirlwind) || CurrentTarget.IsTreasureGoblin ||
                          (CurrentTarget.CentreDistance >= V.F("Barbarian.Sprint.SingleTargetRange") && Player.PrimaryResource >= V.F("Barbarian.Sprint.SingleTargetMinFury"))
                         )
                        )
                    ) &&
                    // minimum time between uses
                    TimeSincePowerUse(SNOPower.Barbarian_Sprint) >= V.I("Barbarian.Sprint.MinUseDelay") &&
                    // If they have battle-rage, make sure it's up
                    (!Hotbar.Contains(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage) || (Hotbar.Contains(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage) && GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_BattleRage))) &&
                    // Check for minimum energy
                    Player.PrimaryResource >= V.F("Barbarian.Sprint.MinFury");
            }
        }

immortalhz · Nov 6, 2013

bombastic said:
I"m using exactly his configs. Always getting 1700 or less. Now I switched my skorn for a 1400+ dps weapon (with ruby), 1.2 as, 50 cd, 100 str and an OH sword with 1.51 as, slot, 140 str and 97 cd.

Guess what? Same thing!

I'm going crazy with this.......

too much dies....
and did you set up Rend delay?

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