NEED HELP! BIG LOADS! Permban + 72h + 72h

[Fate]

Hey guys,

I really need your help on this. Within the last 7 days ( YES, SEVEN) I have been banned or suspended on three different accounts. I only used the bots 7 days now. So literally I lost all my 3 accounts within only 7 days of botting. And that is not even the end of the story. The two accounts that I used (I used EACH ACCOUNT on different computers with different IP's) have only been running for the last 4!!! FOUR days.

The following form can be attached to each of the banned accounts:

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? Honorbuddy with GB2 profiles.

2)If so, when was the last time?: Monday (Account A), Yesterday (Account B) and today (Account C)

3)What profile were you using?: Different profiles from cyb0rg to two or three different multizone profiles (changing every day to "randomize" the flying paths)

4)What combat class were you using? Standard - none.

5)What plugins are you using?: None.

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?: I only used the bots for 4 - 8 hours a day. Different times, different days, different zones.

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? I supervised the accounts approx. 95 %. Only when I needed a quick toilet or when I got myself something to drink I left them unattended. The windows are being displayed on my second monitor - so I really nearly always had vision on them.

7)How many auctions per day did you have?: Never used the AH. Always sold to "private" buyers.

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? No, I did not.

9)Was your account involved in gold selling? No. Never. Got a seperate account for that.

10)EU or US realm? All accounts were being played on EU servers.

11)Is the banned account a Scroll of Resurrection or an actual paid account? Paid.


So WHAT THE F*CK is going on here? I did not overextend the bot times, I changed the zones, I used different hardware and IP's, I NEVER got whispers and when so I replied immediately and so on. Other than actually USING the bot in my opinion I have not done anything wrong. So how can it be, that 3 different accounts with completely different information got banned within 3 concurrent days?! People are talking about their accounts getting banned after several months. Like WTF?! Not even 1 freaking week I was able to use the bot. I really start thinking that the mistakes/problems are NOT user sided. Coming to this point I really believe there is a detection method on Bossland Bots. Surely I don't have any evidence or proof - but come on, not even 4 hours a day using the bot with above stated information ... ?!?!? No way maaaaaaan.

Would really love to get your feedback on this.

Regards,

Fate

 

[jordi1104]

Changing profiles everyday isn't enough for randomization but I don't know what you got banned for so idk.

 

[FliX]

Perhaps your private buyers have told blizzard, that you are botting?

 

[Fate]

Perhaps your private buyers have told blizzard, that you are botting?

Dont really think so. Never sold them more than 60 stacks each. Different account. Always used a bank account to sell the ores. So even if they would have done that - no attachment to any farm accounts. So I pretty much doubt this possibility.

 

[zonpan2lol]

Gonna take a wild guess and say bad luck.

Also, mailing mats to other accounts has a high chance of flagging you. GBank is safer from my experience.

 

[jordi1104]

Gonna take a wild guess and say bad luck.

Also, mailing mats to other accounts has a high chance of flagging you. GBank is safer from my experience.

Using cod is prob low risk becouse alot of people send mats by cod.

 

[Fate]

Gonna take a wild guess and say bad luck.

Also, mailing mats to other accounts has a high chance of flagging you. GBank is safer from my experience.

I don't believe in bad luck here. Too strange that I got banned within 4 days ON THREE ACCOUNTS after only using them for not even 7 days.

And I never send mats to other accounts. Only from my farm char to my bank char on the same account. The bank char deposites the stuff into the guild bank. And my bank account then takes that stuff out the guild bank and sells it to the buyers. So no chance that my account got flagged there since a different account does all the trades.

 

[jordi1104]

I don't believe in bad luck here. Too strange that I got banned within 4 days ON THREE ACCOUNTS after only using them for not even 7 days.

And I never send mats to other accounts. Only from my farm char to my bank char on the same account. The bank char deposites the stuff into the guild bank. And my bank account then takes that stuff out the guild bank and sells it to the buyers. So no chance that my account got flagged there since a different account does all the trades.

No it isn't strange becouse you didn't use randomized profiles but I can't say for sure it is that.

And the 3 accounts that's common once they ban 1 they may very well look into the rest you have.

 

[Fate]

No it isn't strange becouse you didn't use randomized profiles but I can't say for sure it is that.

And the 3 accounts that's common once they ban 1 they may very well look into the rest you have.

But how?! Different IP's, different accounts names, different hardware ID's. It is nearly impossible that they were able to combine those three accounts.

What randomized profiles can you suggest? Have you maybe got some files or documents you can provide?

 

[jordi1104]

But how?! Different IP's, different accounts names, different hardware ID's. It is nearly impossible that they were able to combine those three accounts.

What randomized profiles can you suggest? Have you maybe got some files or documents you can provide?

Explain how you got different ip's becouse that's another reason why you may be banned did you use a p r o x y?

And so you are saying you have 3 different pc's with different ip's?

Randombuddy it's in the plugin section but you can search on forum or use google.

 

[Fate]

Explain how you got different ip's becouse that's another reason why you may be banned did you use a p r o x y?

And so you are saying you have 3 different pc's with different ip's?

Randombuddy it's in the plugin section but you can search on forum or use google.

No. We got 5 different internet providers here. A bigger office is located here. Each PC of course got its own hardware ID.

What exactly does randombuddy do?

Still. As I stated now - technically there should now have been any reason to get all three accounts banned. Not after only 1 week of usage and that even only at 4-8 hours a day. I just can't see any logical reason here.

 

[jordi1104]

No. We got 5 different internet providers here. A bigger office is located here. Each PC of course got its own hardware ID.

What exactly does randombuddy do?

Still. As I stated now - technically there should now have been any reason to get all three accounts banned. Not after only 1 week of usage and that even only at 4-8 hours a day. I just can't see any logical reason here.

Well in that case try randombuddy then what it does is load random profiles you need a api code which you can get by googling randombuddy and then applying for a api code fill the api code in the randombuddy plugin and select the zone and options you want to do.

It can do multiple zones in the same continent and it loads random profiles every 10minutes or what you set it to.

And are you botting at your work lol?

 

[tifreak]

I think, Blizzard has most of our profiles in there Database. If u use 1 profile and follow the path of that profile u will be banned fast. In the past u see it 1st on gatherits profiles. At this time i used pattos profile. Mostly bans was from gahterits profiles. But after some time i got hit on pattos profiles and i see that alot of ban threads and this guys used pattos too.

Its LCP Detection - a very very good LCP detection. I thinlk they coded this routes to there detection and used a lcp detection to find new "routes". Randombuddy is a solution but i dont know how good is this algorithm to make routes. U must load every 10-15min new profile, i think if u do the same route a 2nd time, u will be flagged.

But what i see is, why u got 2x 72h Ban? This are GM related ban. Maybe u think u have other ISP?s but maybe its only in 1 network? Its the first time i hear, that a office can have 5 different ISP?s. Whats company have 5 providers? I think they banned 1st and after a review they found the 2 other accounts on your ISP.

Dont use GB2! GB2 is dead. randombuddy or wait for FarmerJoe from fpsware. I think only with Farmerjoe we have a chance to beat the Detection because with randombuddy u have complete random routes but the behaviour is the same as GB2.

 

[Fate]

Ye. I do. Selfemployed ;-)

We planned on using around 30 - 40 bots. But like this that would be stupid as f*ck. Like 3 accounts banned in a oner. Not too cool, though. I'll see how to get the randombuddy thing running. Let's see whether I'm fit enough ;-)

 

[Fate]

I think, Blizzard has most of our profiles in there Database. If u use 1 profile and follow the path of that profile u will be banned fast. In the past u see it 1st on gatherits profiles. At this time i used pattos profile. Mostly bans was from gahterits profiles. But after some time i got hit on pattos profiles and i see that alot of ban threads and this guys used pattos too.

Its LCP Detection - a very very good LCP detection. I thinlk they coded this routes to there detection and used a lcp detection to find new "routes". Randombuddy is a solution but i dont know how good is this algorithm to make routes. U must load every 10-15min new profile, i think if u do the same route a 2nd time, u will be flagged.

But what i see is, why u got 2x 72h Ban? This are GM related ban. Maybe u think u have other ISP?s but maybe its only in 1 network? Its the first time i hear, that a office can have 5 different ISP?s. Whats company have 5 providers? I think they banned 1st and after a review they found the 2 other accounts on your ISP.

Dont use GB2! GB2 is dead. randombuddy or wait for FarmerJoe from fpsware. I think only with Farmerjoe we have a chance to beat the Detection because with randombuddy u have complete random routes but the behaviour is the same as GB2.

Can you shoot me some more information about Farmerjoe? Would be appreciated!

 

[jordi1104]

Ye. I do. Selfemployed ;-)

We planned on using around 30 - 40 bots. But like this that would be stupid as f*ck. Like 3 accounts banned in a oner. Not too cool, though. I'll see how to get the randombuddy thing running. Let's see whether I'm fit enough ;-)

Goodluck then most of the people doing this for a living are chinese and don't even run mop account lol.

It's not uncommon to get banned when doing it in a business way lol.

Eh also what country do you live in becouse the ip of country may matter aswell if it is a chinese ip well....



Also how did you level the accounts?

 

[Fate]

Goodluck then most of the people doing this for a living are chinese and don't even run mop account lol.

It's not uncommon to get banned when doing it in a business way lol.

Eh also what country do you live in becouse the ip of country may matter aswell if it is a chinese ip well....





Also how did you level the accounts?

Got a guy that does that by hand. And maybe we'd buy accounts from mates which haven't been used a while, or even if, not beend botted. We don't really do that to make a living - of course 2-3k a month are not that bad!

We live in Germany and therefore should normally not have any problems IP wise ...

 

[jordi1104]

Got a guy that does that by hand. And maybe we'd buy accounts from mates which haven't been used a while, or even if, not beend botted. We don't really do that to make a living - of course 2-3k a month are not that bad!

We live in Germany and therefore should normally not have any problems IP wise ...

Well if the accounts are from germany aswell I don't think that is the reason for the ban so probably it was becouse you didn't use random profiles I suggest you look into randombuddy.

But even if you use random profiles you can still be banned goodluck.

Also most people who say they level by hand don't actually do it.

 

[Draksidian]

a few days late, and more a general post than specifically to this topic, but i have botted on 3 dif accounts, leveled about 15 toons to level 90, from about 20 onwards, and for atleast 4 months or more, most times all 3 accounts were run from the same computer. and im yet to be banned.

 

[medalofwhat]

i have been banned 4 times with perma bans since using randombuddy. not saying its detectable, just that generating random profiles isnt enough anymore. i would run my bots about 12 hours a day with randombuddy set to go to all MOP zones. its better than nothing but definitely not going to protect from a ban.