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More IPH, less LPH?

TheGinner

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Hi,

I was running mp8 on Fallen Act 1, getting around 750 IPH.... and ~3 LPH

I switched over to try A2 in a rush, MP10 and now getting ~1100-1300 IPH.... and ~1.2 LPH

Doesn't make sense to me.... any explaination?
 
run it for longer, youll need to run it for far longer than 30 minutes (assumption based on you actually making this thread) to get an accurate lph average.
 
true iph shows after 6-8h
true lph shows after 20-24h
IMHO

ps. Dont look on db count, its from last 15 or 30min i think. Go do db/TrinityLogs/battle tag/RunStats - class
 
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The reason lies somewhre else I think.
I can see the same thing on my Barbs.

When killing elites on MP8 the general quality of items that drop is way higher than what drops at MP10 skipping elites. There are way more items of ilvl 63, 62 and 61 than on MP8 doing elites. However these items are white and blues more often than rares or legs. Therefore your iph is very high but your lph is somewhat lower.

That's my theory. On MP8 I get between 2.5 and 3.5 legs /h with a general 700-900 iph. On MP10 however I get 1100-1400 iph but only 1-2 lph. If I could kill elites easily on MP10 I would switch...
 
The reason lies somewhre else I think.
I can see the same thing on my Barbs.

When killing elites on MP8 the general quality of items that drop is way higher than what drops at MP10 skipping elites. There are way more items of ilvl 63, 62 and 61 than on MP8 doing elites. However these items are white and blues more often than rares or legs. Therefore your iph is very high but your lph is somewhat lower.

That's my theory. On MP8 I get between 2.5 and 3.5 legs /h with a general 700-900 iph. On MP10 however I get 1100-1400 iph but only 1-2 lph. If I could kill elites easily on MP10 I would switch...
p100 mp10: 550% mf
p100 mp8: 500% mf

p100 mp8 + nv5: 575% mf

even with 25% lower mf, with the iph youve listed for both mp8 and mp10, mp10 will give you more lph.

your theory is wrong, your numbers are wrong or you havent tested it for long enough to get an accurate average.

another edit, rereading my post it comes off as being harsh, sorry!!
 
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well ... you base your numbers wrong, I think. You say that the only addition in my MP8 scenario is that I get NV stacks. But the elites themselves have a bunch of guaranteed drops. And these guaranteed drops are higher in quality than what the average joe mob drops.

The difference lies in leg drops from elites themselves, not the added MF from NV stacks.

?dit: I don't think of your post being harsh ;) If it was, I wouldn't care either. It's a discussion and discussions can get messy. That's simply nothing personal.
 
well ... you base your numbers wrong, I think. You say that the only addition in my MP8 scenario is that I get NV stacks. But the elites themselves have a bunch of guaranteed drops. And these guaranteed drops are higher in quality than what the average joe mob drops.

The difference lies in leg drops from elites themselves, not the added MF from NV stacks.

?dit: I don't think of your post being harsh ;) If it was, I wouldn't care either. It's a discussion and discussions can get messy. That's simply nothing personal.
out of curiosity how many hours are your logs where youve been grabbing your iph/lph from?
 
The reason lies somewhre else I think.
I can see the same thing on my Barbs.

When killing elites on MP8 the general quality of items that drop is way higher than what drops at MP10 skipping elites. There are way more items of ilvl 63, 62 and 61 than on MP8 doing elites. However these items are white and blues more often than rares or legs. Therefore your iph is very high but your lph is somewhat lower.

That's my theory. On MP8 I get between 2.5 and 3.5 legs /h with a general 700-900 iph. On MP10 however I get 1100-1400 iph but only 1-2 lph. If I could kill elites easily on MP10 I would switch...


I dont agree with your theory.

Everything in this game is based off of percentages. If you are getting 30% more iph you have a 30% better chance rolling a legendary. Even though the chance to roll one is low to begin with the fact that you are getting more iph allows more of a chance to drop a legendary.




the act 2 run is VERY fast and very dense. Its the highest iph i can find right now. I have done tons of testing between act 1 2 and 3 and nothing is close to act 2. Its a very clean run and very bot friendly. Not a lot of places to get stuck and if you are running a barb you can keep wrath up just about 100% of the run.
 
So here's my stats... please tell me what I can do to improve... I'm still learning DB little by little... looks like I'm dying a little too much...

This is the Dalghur Oasis only run (in a hurry). MP 10.

My barb stats @p100: all unbuffed
~190k DPS unbuffed
~6.2k Armor
~675 Resist All
80k HP
~11% ls
~750 LOH
49.5 CC

Code:
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 8h 54m 26s
Total deaths: 31 [3.48 per hour]
Total games (approx): 43 [4.83 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 3389.24 Thousand [380.5 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 6180 [693.81 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 377 [42.32 per hour] {6.1 %}
- ilvl59: 164 [18.41 per hour] {2.65 %}
- ilvl60: 963 [108.11 per hour] {15.58 %}
- ilvl61: 2032 [228.13 per hour] {32.88 %}
- ilvl62: 1695 [190.29 per hour] {27.43 %}
- ilvl63: 949 [106.54 per hour] {15.36 %}

Items dropped by quality: 
- White: 2000 [224.53 per hour] {32.36 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 73 [8.2 per hour] {1.18 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 41 [4.6 per hour] {0.66 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 234 [26.27 per hour] {3.79 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 653 [73.31 per hour] {10.57 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 618 [69.38 per hour] {10 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 381 [42.77 per hour] {6.17 %}
- Magic: 3411 [382.94 per hour] {55.19 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 242 [27.17 per hour] {3.92 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 100 [11.23 per hour] {1.62 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 589 [66.13 per hour] {9.53 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 1135 [127.42 per hour] {18.37 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 882 [99.02 per hour] {14.27 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 463 [51.98 per hour] {7.49 %}
- Rare: 756 [84.87 per hour] {12.23 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 62 [6.96 per hour] {1 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 23 [2.58 per hour] {0.37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 137 [15.38 per hour] {2.22 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 240 [26.94 per hour] {3.88 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 194 [21.78 per hour] {3.14 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 100 [11.23 per hour] {1.62 %}
- Legendary: 13 [1.46 per hour] {0.21 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 3 [0.34 per hour] {0.05 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 4 [0.45 per hour] {0.06 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 1 [0.11 per hour] {0.02 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 5 [0.56 per hour] {0.08 %}

Trinity settings:
View attachment 96844
 
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So here's my stats... please tell me what I can do to improve... I'm still learning DB little by little... looks like I'm dying a little too much...

This is the Dalghur Oasis only run (in a hurry). MP 10.

My barb stats @p100: all unbuffed
~190k DPS unbuffed
~6.2k Armor
~675 Resist All
80k HP
~11% ls
~750 LOH
49.5 CC

===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 8h 54m 26s
Total deaths: 31 [3.48 per hour]
Total games (approx): 43 [4.83 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 3389.24 Thousand [380.5 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 6180 [693.81 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl:
- ilvl58: 377 [42.32 per hour] {6.1 %}
- ilvl59: 164 [18.41 per hour] {2.65 %}
- ilvl60: 963 [108.11 per hour] {15.58 %}
- ilvl61: 2032 [228.13 per hour] {32.88 %}
- ilvl62: 1695 [190.29 per hour] {27.43 %}
- ilvl63: 949 [106.54 per hour] {15.36 %}

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 2000 [224.53 per hour] {32.36 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 73 [8.2 per hour] {1.18 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 41 [4.6 per hour] {0.66 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 234 [26.27 per hour] {3.79 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 653 [73.31 per hour] {10.57 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 618 [69.38 per hour] {10 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 381 [42.77 per hour] {6.17 %}
- Magic: 3411 [382.94 per hour] {55.19 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 242 [27.17 per hour] {3.92 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 100 [11.23 per hour] {1.62 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 589 [66.13 per hour] {9.53 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 1135 [127.42 per hour] {18.37 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 882 [99.02 per hour] {14.27 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 463 [51.98 per hour] {7.49 %}
- Rare: 756 [84.87 per hour] {12.23 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 62 [6.96 per hour] {1 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 23 [2.58 per hour] {0.37 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 137 [15.38 per hour] {2.22 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 240 [26.94 per hour] {3.88 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 194 [21.78 per hour] {3.14 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 100 [11.23 per hour] {1.62 %}
- Legendary: 13 [1.46 per hour] {0.21 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 3 [0.34 per hour] {0.05 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 4 [0.45 per hour] {0.06 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 1 [0.11 per hour] {0.02 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 5 [0.56 per hour] {0.08 %}

Trinity settings:
View attachment 96844


are you skipping elites? with stats like that you should be getting much higher iph. Also what combat routine are you using? Setting -> bot (will show it here)



also.. post your logs as shown in my sig
 
are you skipping elites? with stats like that you should be getting much higher iph. Also what combat routine are you using? Setting -> bot (will show it here)



also.. post your logs as shown in my sig

I am skipping elites. Using Trinity CR. Should I try General?

Code:
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 0h 3m 20s
Total deaths: 0 [0 per hour]
Total games (approx): 0 [0 per hour]
(your games left value may be bugged @ 0 due to profile managers/routines etc., now showing games joined instead:)
Total games joined: 1 [17.94 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 14.39 Thousand [258.04 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 32 [573.98 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}
- ilvl59: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}
- ilvl60: 4 [71.75 per hour] {12.5 %}
- ilvl61: 8 [143.49 per hour] {25 %}
- ilvl62: 6 [107.62 per hour] {18.75 %}
- ilvl63: 10 [179.37 per hour] {31.25 %}

Items dropped by quality: 
- White: 10 [179.37 per hour] {31.25 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 4 [71.75 per hour] {12.5 %}
- Magic: 17 [304.92 per hour] {53.12 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 3 [53.81 per hour] {9.38 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 7 [125.56 per hour] {21.88 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 4 [71.75 per hour] {12.5 %}
- Rare: 5 [89.68 per hour] {15.62 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 1 [17.94 per hour] {3.12 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 2 [35.87 per hour] {6.25 %}

Potion Drops:
Total potions: 1 [17.94 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 1 [17.94 per hour] {100 %}



===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 1 [17.94 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl: 
- ilvl63: 1 [17.94 per hour] {100 %}

Items picked up by quality: 
- Rare: 1 [17.94 per hour] {100 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 1 [17.94 per hour] {100 %}

===== End Of Report =====

^^^ Like this? ^^^ (started a new log with different settings, edited previous post for ~9hour run)
 
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barb stats

220k dps
fully buffed with wotb, rage, kill spree, brawler 500k
3 LS only, nothing else, no loh or life/sec
600 AR, 7k Armor, 1.49 attacks per sec. buffed.
70k hp, 7% elite reduce

Code:
===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 8h 12m 52s
Total deaths: 27 [3.29 per hour]
Total games (approx): 56 [6.82 per hour]
Total XP gained: 0 million [0 million per hour]
Total Gold gained: 3290.04 Thousand [400.52 Thousand per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 8723 [1061.9 per hour]
Items dropped by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 519 [63.18 per hour] {5.95 %}
- ilvl59: 211 [25.69 per hour] {2.42 %}
- ilvl60: 1353 [164.71 per hour] {15.51 %}
- ilvl61: 2988 [363.75 per hour] {34.25 %}
- ilvl62: 2309 [281.09 per hour] {26.47 %}
- ilvl63: 1343 [163.49 per hour] {15.4 %}

Items dropped by quality: 
- White: 2721 [331.24 per hour] {31.19 %}
--- ilvl 58 White: 109 [13.27 per hour] {1.25 %}
--- ilvl 59 White: 51 [6.21 per hour] {0.58 %}
--- ilvl 60 White: 309 [37.62 per hour] {3.54 %}
--- ilvl 61 White: 905 [110.17 per hour] {10.37 %}
--- ilvl 62 White: 814 [99.09 per hour] {9.33 %}
--- ilvl 63 White: 533 [64.89 per hour] {6.11 %}
- Magic: 4851 [590.54 per hour] {55.61 %}
--- ilvl 58 Magic: 335 [40.78 per hour] {3.84 %}
--- ilvl 59 Magic: 131 [15.95 per hour] {1.5 %}
--- ilvl 60 Magic: 837 [101.89 per hour] {9.6 %}
--- ilvl 61 Magic: 1682 [204.76 per hour] {19.28 %}
--- ilvl 62 Magic: 1222 [148.76 per hour] {14.01 %}
--- ilvl 63 Magic: 644 [78.4 per hour] {7.38 %}
- Rare: 1123 [136.71 per hour] {12.87 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 73 [8.89 per hour] {0.84 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 29 [3.53 per hour] {0.33 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 199 [24.23 per hour] {2.28 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 399 [48.57 per hour] {4.57 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 269 [32.75 per hour] {3.08 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 154 [18.75 per hour] {1.77 %}
- Legendary: 28 [3.41 per hour] {0.32 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 2 [0.24 per hour] {0.02 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 8 [0.97 per hour] {0.09 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 2 [0.24 per hour] {0.02 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 4 [0.49 per hour] {0.05 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 12 [1.46 per hour] {0.14 %}

Potion Drops:
Total potions: 213 [25.93 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 213 [25.93 per hour] {100 %}

Gem Drops:
Total gems: 90 [10.96 per hour]
- Ruby: 23 [2.8 per hour] {25.56 %}
--- ilvl 60 Ruby: 23 [2.8 per hour] {25.56 %}
- Topaz: 20 [2.43 per hour] {22.22 %}
--- ilvl 60 Topaz: 20 [2.43 per hour] {22.22 %}
- Amethyst: 21 [2.56 per hour] {23.33 %}
--- ilvl 60 Amethyst: 21 [2.56 per hour] {23.33 %}
- Emerald: 26 [3.17 per hour] {28.89 %}
--- ilvl 60 Emerald: 26 [3.17 per hour] {28.89 %}


===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 337 [41.03 per hour]
Item picked up by ilvl: 
- ilvl58: 18 [2.19 per hour] {5.34 %}
- ilvl59: 15 [1.83 per hour] {4.45 %}
- ilvl60: 48 [5.84 per hour] {14.24 %}
- ilvl61: 111 [13.51 per hour] {32.94 %}
- ilvl62: 77 [9.37 per hour] {22.85 %}
- ilvl63: 68 [8.28 per hour] {20.18 %}

Items picked up by quality: 
- Rare: 314 [38.23 per hour] {93.18 %}
--- ilvl 58 Rare: 16 [1.95 per hour] {4.75 %}
--- ilvl 59 Rare: 15 [1.83 per hour] {4.45 %}
--- ilvl 60 Rare: 42 [5.11 per hour] {12.46 %}
--- ilvl 61 Rare: 109 [13.27 per hour] {32.34 %}
--- ilvl 62 Rare: 73 [8.89 per hour] {21.66 %}
--- ilvl 63 Rare: 59 [7.18 per hour] {17.51 %}
- Legendary: 23 [2.8 per hour] {6.82 %}
--- ilvl 58 Legendary: 2 [0.24 per hour] {0.59 %}
--- ilvl 60 Legendary: 6 [0.73 per hour] {1.78 %}
--- ilvl 61 Legendary: 2 [0.24 per hour] {0.59 %}
--- ilvl 62 Legendary: 4 [0.49 per hour] {1.19 %}
--- ilvl 63 Legendary: 9 [1.1 per hour] {2.67 %}

Potion Pickups:
Total potions: 111 [13.51 per hour]
- ilvl 60: 111 [13.51 per hour] {100 %}

===== End Of Report =====
 
TheGinner, which is your build? Also think to play on pm8-9, maybe you will see better results!
 
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