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A Serious Question About Hardcore Botting

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As a paying customer of Demonbuddy, I'd like to preface this post by stating that I am ABSOLUTELY NOT against botting in MMOs in any way shape or form. In fact, I love botting, and I'd first like to thank the creators of the buddybots for doing an amazing job creating an amazing product that I would definitely pay more than once for.

Recently I've been browsing the Honorbuddy forums after coming back to WoW from a long (4+ year) hiatus from the game. After a couple days on these forums I've come to the realization that pretty much 95% of WoW can be botted, automated, and farmed by honorbuddy-- achievements, transmog runs, rep grinding, battlegrounds, and even raids. Probably the only thing that Honorbuddy cannot do is arenas, which leads me to the question: at what point is botting WoW just too much?

I mean I can totally understand botting to max level, I can absolutely understand botting for gold, and I can also (sort of) understand botting old raids for transmog gear. Botting the aforementioned aspects of WoW is a means to an end: botting in order to access the end game content, to be able to play with people at the highest level.

But then what about people who use Honorbuddy and its mods to run entire rotations for their dps and healing cycles in current raiding content? And what about people who jump into battlegrounds with Honorbuddy controlling and automating their entire damage rotation? Incidentally, I started reading the HB forums at the release of 5.3 and the reaction to the bot being down kind of confounded me. People were actually ditching raids and calling out of raids because they literally didn't know how to play their own class without HB. This content is the meat of the game... the part that is supposedly the "fun" part I guess. I've always seen botting as a way to get to the content without manually grinding completely inane and boring stuff like leveling all the way to 90. However, when people start botting pretty much every single thing, even things that are supposed to be fun when played by yourself, I get confused.

I guess this thread is directed to those people I mentioned in my post. Remember this isn't an attack on the most hardcore botters on HB, I'm just trying to stir up some dialogue on endgame botting and maybe understanding the mindset of automating the endgame content which I had always assumed to be something better done manually, regardless of how much I myself have botted.

tldr: If you automate and bot endgame content (raids, bgs) why?
 
Good thought out post. From what i've noticed:

PVP/BATTLEGROUNDS-- It's really easy to spot bots in BGs, both your team and the enemy (ally scum). They have the same pathing and mounting patterns and you quickly learn all the routes after powering through for days on end. Healers in battlegrounds are OP and I would much rather have them on my team than real healers. That being said, now that my pvp toon is nearly fully geared, it's fun and pretty easy to own in battlegrounds. Knowing the pathing and learning the main 1 or 2 CC's rotations(which is easy when you watched your bot play while leveling up) of each class/spec makes bots in bgs like grunts in Halo. It's always fun to find a similarly skilled PVPers, but picking off bots to get the last few Tyrannical pieces is fun =]

RAID-- I could see how running a bot for most of the normal fights would be do-able and quite OP probably (Horridon, Tortos probably a bit iffy) But it would be pretty damn hard to get more DPS out of a bot doing heroics than even an average+ player. This Heroic tier has way too many mechanics, adds, utility spells, raid wipes IMO to run Heroic Content successfully at a high level.
 
There is not a single afk endgame bot, so this question is obsolete.
 
There's still a decent amount of grinding to do once you do hit 90, which is why I use LazyRaider probably more than anything.

Say you have a fresh 90, that you want to PvP on. Just to even get your foot in the door really, you're looking at roughly 30-40 hours of BG grinding, depending on how your faction fares in your BG. In the old days, yea just leave BGBuddy on for a few days and it was no problem, but with the recent clamp down on BG bots, I have done the honor grind by hand. It gets boring after a while, sometimes you just want to alt tab AFK at a node (Like I'm doing now) and just right click and tab back out whenever someone shows up.

The PvE grind is even bigger. Sometimes you just don't want to do another fkn daily. There's what, 9 LFR instances on top of that. That's not even counting world bosses, heroics, or normal raiding. Lazyraider prevents me from getting kicked as I watch TV through the nth boring ass LFR.

While I've never used it in a "real" raid, I can see it being beneficial to those who do. Some, actually most people are pretty bad at the game so it allows them to preform better in raids, whether it be helping their rotation or letting them focus on not standing in the fire.

All in all, there's still a ton of boring shit you have to do even once you hit 90. MoP especially, there's a reason something like only 20% of WoW characters are level 90.
 
There is not a single afk endgame bot, so this question is obsolete.

My bad for the misunderstanding, I'm talking about tools such as Lazyraider, in which you do control the movement but the bot controls all the combat mechanics (dps rotation).
 
I only use HB for Tyrael/Lazyraider in endgame raiding. Mashing a cookie cutter rotation for 4 hours straight is not fun to me. I do all of the movement, targeting, dispels, mechanics etc by hand - to me those are the fun parts. I also use my own custom CRs that are small and can be tweaked quickly if changes need to be made between pulls. I don't think I'd be comfortable raiding on a premade CR where I don't know exactly what the bot is going to do in every situation. When the bot is down I just play by hand, but there is definitely a hit to my dps as I just can't react to procs etc as fast as the bot can. On my healers I do play by hand. For some of my alts that I just don't play that well, it lets me have fun on them as well - I pretty much just port the simcraft profile to a HB CR and they do pretty well.
 
Well 6667, some of us truly (well atleast me personally) do not "play" wow for wow. The only reason I have wow subs, I have 5 of them, is to bot, I enjoy "making it work" and seeing the results of it, to the point of getting to 90, and deleting + re rolling a toon just for the hell of it, as I already have 10 slots filled; on ALL 5 accounts.

In a situation like this, I obviously have no idea how to kill stuff effectively or raid, in fact i've never even been inside a raid. Even though I have over 30 90's. But I were to one day want to see all those apparently awesome and cool parts of wow, I would definately use LazyRaider or something like that to do it for me.

tl;dl - because wow is boring and wastes too much time, by botting raids and such you do not spend countless hours grinding better gear just to do more raids, it's more like watching a really, really long movie. On the other hand, botting is fun. and maybe one day I will sell these accounts.
 
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