5 accounts banned while using dungeonbuddy.

[kavlantis]

Just had 5 accounts banned using dungeonbuddy.

Used kicked from level 1-15 then they were all doing dungeons in the same group, tank, healer, 3 dps.

All banned at the same time, toons were around level 30~.

They hardly lasted 24 hours after i bought the new accounts.

RIP honorbuddy.

EDIT (forgot to add this information) 26/04/2013

I actually took the pc to a cousins house (different IP), format and installed fresh windows7, installed wow, created the 5 accounts there and run them there.
The only connection to me it was the PC hardware but with a formated disk and fresh windows installation.
My cousin never played wow in his life and his ISP is not the same as mine so "they monitoring" my IP doesn't apply here.



Ban form:

1)Were you using Honorbuddy, Gatherbuddy or both on the account? questing from level 1-15, dungeonbuddy 15-40

2)If so, when was the last time?: today

3)What profile were you using?: kicks profile for questing, none for dungeonbuddy

4)What combat class were you using? if None Just put Default then the Classname: singular

5)What plugins are you using?: autoequip2, leaderplugin, hbreloghelper, talanted, drink potions

6)How many hours per day did you bot for?: about 8-9 total, not per day, they didnt last one day.

6.5)What honest percentage of time did you supervise your bot? 95%

7)How many auctions per day did you have?: 0

8)Did you Use Any Other Bots, Hacks, or Mods? nop

9)Was your account involved in gold selling? nop

10)EU or US realm? EU

11)Is the banned account a Scroll of Resurrection or an actual paid account? payed


Account Action: Account Closure

Circumventing normal game mechanics has a negative impact on the game experience of other customers.

Type of Violation: Exploitation
Category of Violation: Third Party Program
Character Name Involved: xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx: Your account was permanently suspended due to use of third party programs, which is against the Terms of Use (Blizzard Entertainment: Battle.net Terms of Use), the relevant part of which can be found in this article :

http://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/hacks-and-third-party-programs

When running, the World of Warcraft client may monitor your computer's random access memory (ram) and/or cpu processes for unauthorized third party programs running concurrently with World of Warcraft. An unauthorized third party program as used herein shall be defined as any third party software, including without limitation any addon or mod, that in Blizzard Entertainment's sole determination:

I. enables or facilitates cheating of any type;

II. allows users to modify or hack the World of Warcraft interface, environment, and/or experience in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard Entertainment; or

III. intercepts, mines, or otherwise collects information from or through World of Warcraft. In the event that World of Warcraft detects an unauthorized third party program, Blizzard may

a) communicate information back to blizzard entertainment, including without limitation your account name, details about the unauthorized third party program detected, and the time and date the unauthorized third party program was detected; and/or

b) exercise any or all of its rights under section 6 of this agreement, with or without prior notice to the user.

The use of such programs or files is clearly unfair to the World of Warcraft community playing regularly and is not tolerated on our servers.

Following a review of your case, we can confirm that such program has been used on several occasions by your account, and that the subsequent action taken is appropriate. We would not look to enter into any further communications on this issue as the matter is now considered closed.

Please be advised that sanctions in relation to this matter will not be taken against any new accounts you may wish to create, but the characters from your cancelled account will remain irretrievable. If you should wish to create a new account, you will need to obtain a new and unused CD key with a retail copy of the game.






Any chance we can get a comment from a dev, since they REASSURED EVERYONE on this forum that the bot is not detectable?

regards

 

[B00sted]

hmm under 1 day too eh? yah mine lasted about 6 hours today ...

 

[realzz]

Np, no problem guys, bot is safe, you just doing it wrong, jay to the kay.

 

[kavlantis]

hmm under 1 day too eh? yah mine lasted about 6 hours today ...

it wasnt 1 day of botting, it was 1 day from when i bough the accounts, i bought them last night and started leveling them around 13:00.
About 1 hour ago they got banned.

Clearly the bot is undetectable.

 

[Derk]

Np, no problem guys, bot is safe, you just doing it wrong, jay to the kay.

Yes, ofcourse he's wrong because everybody could see him while he was doing a dungeon on his own.. HB IS DETECTED FFS

 

[Derk]

getting banned so rapidly does not necessarily mean HB is being detected. maybe gms are checking on every new accounts which is being created to see if it is being used for a botting purpose. but yea, i'm just guessing.

So, how can they check if your account is used for a botting purpose when they haven't detected the bot? Seems pretty retarded. They have detected HB for sure and the devs are hiding it.

 

[B00sted]

I got my tinfoil hat on ... but it wouldnt be hard for them to detect highly used patterns from extremely popular profiles. They probably have a "bot" lol that checks for that activity idk about my account I laugh, but the dude above loosing 5 paid accounts .. ouch.

 

[kavlantis]

Yes, ofcourse he's wrong because everybody could see him while he was doing a dungeon on his own.. HB IS DETECTED FFS

yeap, i had my doubts before that the bot might not be detectable because of Tony's great arguments on this topic.

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...n-ban-reports/116542-all-my-acc-banned-6.html

page 2 post 15 and on.

Hb and every Hb mode is as "safe" as usual,nothing have changed

"safe as usual"

Well, i leveled 36-37 accounts on 3 PC with different IP this way before the start of the ban wave last Tuesday.
Exact same way, I didn't change anything, there was no reason to change anything because it was "safe".

Now all I can say is that it was safe as usual but something DID changed and you get banned (at a random time) for using honor buddy.

 

[kavlantis]

So, how can they check if your account is used for a botting purpose when they haven't detected the bot? Seems pretty retarded. They have detected HB for sure and the devs are hiding it.

You got my vote on that.

 

[Aion]

yeap, i had my doubts before that the bot might not be detectable because of Tony's great arguments on this topic.

Well, i leveled 36-37 accounts on 3 PC with different IP this way before the start of the ban wave last Tuesday.
Exact same way, I didn't change anything, there was no reason to change anything because it was "safe".

Now all I can say is that it was safe as usual but something DID changed and you get banned (at a random time) for using honor buddy.

You got monitored! Simple as that!
Honorbuddy and Dungeonbuddy particularly is been used by thousands of people. My friend is just leveling atm with 5 chars in the 85+ bracket ONLY by demonbuddy, almost 24/7! And he is not banned.
You ask why? Because he is not monitored.
By monitored I mean - Blizzard representatives monitor some or all of your machines, you already been banned on, its been reported hundreds of times for such scenarios, especially for hard botters, runing 10+ bots per machine or IP range.

If you successfully try to dodge that fact, go on and claim HB as detectable!

P.S. As Tony already mentioned towards you - HB is not responsible for careless botting, like yours.

Its pretty common sence, that after been hit by a targeted bans (Yes, 37 accounts closed means targeted!), you should stay low on the same computers/IP ranges you usually use.
But you go careless and register another 5 accs and start 8-9hours stright session. Wake up!

 

[buzzerbeater]

The thing is:

Every bot gets hit lately, I don't mean GB HB db and stuff, I mean other bot companies.

So either every single bot is detected, which is highly unlikely , or they started to step up their game big time, which means they ban waaaay faster, monitor new accounts on the pc , flags are worked through way quicker and scripts are improved vastly.

And tbh. Prior to this ban session, the bottling politics by Blizz were heavy laissez-faire style.

 

[ludijak559]

Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along ... I love this attitude. Its not like pple are getting banned left and right xD Let me guess he didnt monitor his bots, he used more than 1 bot, he used them more than 1h per day ... damn so reckless . In the end I ask myself why do we even bot lol.

 

[Derk]

Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along ... I love this attitude. Its not like pple are getting banned left and right xD Let me guess he didnt monitor his bots, he used more than 1 bot, he used them more than 1h per day ... damn so reckless . In the end I ask myself why do we even bot lol.

What the fuck is the point of botting when you use the bot for just 1 hour a day? We bot because of a couple of things : Actual playing!, Getting rid of all the boring stuff ( quests, grinding, farming ) and last but not least MONEY but, you can't make money or have fun when your account already gets banned in the leveling process! It isn't worth the time, money and appealing the tickets.
HB is going down very fast and the developers don't want to tell people because they don't want their bot to be abandoned.

They tell us that this is just a regular thing that has been happening all the time! Well, since when have you seen these many ban posts in a couple of days and since when aren't there alot of 'succes stories' on the forums except for the ones that were made before the bans started? It's done, over! HB is dead and everybody already knows it or will notice some things in the coming days/weeks.

 

[Auxilium1989]

Kavlantis , correct me if im wrong , but havent you been banned alot these last weeks? And the bans before this one was not with Dungeonbuddy , correct?

So perhaps you were already flagged and thats how u got banned in like ~1 day using Dungeonbuddy?

Edit : Okay , now i read this aswell . http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/ban-section-ban-reports/116100-3-accounts-re-banned-less-30mins-bot-100-detactable-gets-auto-banned.html

Basicly Kavlantis had 3 accounts receiving a 72h suspension. As soon as the suspension was off , he logged back in and started botting right away , and got banned in 10 minutes.

Now , he buys 3 accounts and gets banned in 1 days while using a quite safe botting method.

Im sorry , but i don't see a HB-detection here , i see someone being flagged.

 

[Risien]

I call bullshit on "Monitoring account that have been banned before or machines" i have brand new machine and i have even moved since my last ban on a old account. There is something going on with it i was banned just questing that's all i had no auctions no farms nothing but mine was only 72 hrs witch will be up saturday.

 

[buzzerbeater]

I call bullshit on "Monitoring account that have been banned before or machines" i have brand new machine and i have even moved since my last ban on a old account. There is something going on with it i was banned just questing that's all i had no auctions no farms nothing but mine was only 72 hrs witch will be up saturday.

There are accounts which got first perm, then changed to 72hrs which got perm banned again without even being used again, so I'm not too sure about this "bullshit".

 

[UnknownFanta]

You got monitored! Simple as that!
Honorbuddy and Dungeonbuddy particularly is been used by thousands of people. My friend is just leveling atm with 5 chars in the 85+ bracket ONLY by demonbuddy, almost 24/7! And he is not banned.
You ask why? Because he is not monitored.
By monitored I mean - Blizzard representatives monitor some or all of your machines, you already been banned on, its been reported hundreds of times for such scenarios, especially for hard botters, runing 10+ bots per machine or IP range.

If you successfully try to dodge that fact, go on and claim HB as detectable!

P.S. As Tony already mentioned towards you - HB is not responsible for careless botting, like yours.

Its pretty common sence, that after been hit by a targeted bans (Yes, 37 accounts closed means targeted!), you should stay low on the same computers/IP ranges you usually use.
But you go careless and register another 5 accs and start 8-9hours stright session. Wake up!

I don't think so cause i've been banned a lot of time. 4 account on last wave.
Atm i'm leveling 3 brand new account about 20 hours per day with no ban, same pc.

Thats my opinion...

probably they have implemented a "script" and execute it random during the day, 3/4 times.

This script follow a "pattern" to ban ppl with same "condition" like quest (kick), zones(GB), friends/dungeons done and stuff like that.
During first banwave i lost 1 account and other in same server, same kind of leveling, same zones, same farming time etc didnt got detected.

Maybe cause was my main account (since beta) with a lot more stuff (archiev, friends and "hystory") and other handly leveled pg.

If blizz decide to keep up this script, will be hard time for botters...

imho.

 

[Risien]

There are accounts which got first perm, then changed to 72hrs which got perm banned again without even being used again, so I'm not too sure about this "bullshit".

What im talking about is i had a account about 2 yrs ago banned for using "Piroxbots with the archalogy" So this was a new account with new email and everything. This one was using HB.

 

[buzzerbeater]

What im talking about is i had a account about 2 yrs ago banned for using "Piroxbots with the archalogy" So this was a new account with new email and everything. This one was using HB.

Then it is a different story for sure.

Sorry, the previous post was missing that info.

 

[lotrodude]

Were you playing all 5 accounts from a single computer? Were you using VMWare or any other software to hide the IPs of the five accounts? The facts of your case do not necessarily add up to HB detection. There are plenty of ways to detect botting without detecting the bot program.