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Trinity Avoidance Sucks

blacula

blacula

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I know this has been discussed in the past, but the avoidance is complete crap. The bot does not really "avoid" anything, but just stands at the edge of an AOE spazzing back and forth taking damage anyway. I hope that none sees this as an attack on rrrix as he really is doing a great job with trinity. But the old Giles avoidance routines are and have always been terrible and they never really worked at all. I hope this will be addressed soon.
 
Yep i also agree but there are ways around it build more tankier and there is even a build i've made for barb which keeps u alive a lot longer then usual but the downside is it is slow . I've always assumed it is because of bot limitations for example if your life is low and fight an elite bot doesn't care about plague arcane and just crosses everything just to go after the mob and dies . What i've seen it correctly detects is desecrator
Another thing which doesnt appear to be working is ignoring trash . i've set trinity to ignore even packs of 4 but most of the time it doesn't not sure if it is because mob radius . should it be set to very low ? or it doesn't matter.
 
rixx put an option to "attempt to avoid aoe" in the combat section, it works if you got good resists and hp. The bot still stands in molten core explosions even with the avoid aoe on so you got nothing to lose.
 
really problem is avoidance dont work in the WOTB mode for my barb

about trinity and demonbuddy - you cant see that they are abandoned - no patches no fixes of known problems - NOTHING
 
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I would also like to raise this thread a bit!

I recently started playing HC, with a WD. Got pretty decent stats... on buffs i have 1.1k all res, 70k life, and 50k dps... 1000 LOH and 2.8% life steal. Still, i have to sit there and watch it bot. I cant get myself to leave it alone.

When it comes to arcane enchanted, it just runs blatently through it hoping to survive. No matter how much i increase kite distance, and change the ranges. How do I make it pardon the french "watch out for fucking dangerous stuff"? :)

Attempt to avoide AoE if of course ticked...
 
At last, is there any method to avoid elites or not??? (Barbarian)
 
quadrotony said:
really problem is avoidance dont work in the WOTB mode for my barb

about trinity and demonbuddy - you cant see that they are abandoned - no patches no fixes of known problems - NOTHING
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wotb ignoring avoidance is intended.. if you want to avoid anything in wotb youre undergeared for whatever youre doing.

demonbuddy has most likely been abandoned (with the exception of bug fixes and patch updates) but can you blame them? at this point its probably not even profitable for them to spend development time on new features, especially when their community does it for free.

trinity is still being actively worked on however.
 
Polyester said:
demonbuddy has most likely been abandoned (with the exception of bug fixes and patch updates) but can you blame them? at this point its probably not even profitable for them to spend development time on new features, especially when their community does it for free.

trinity is still being actively worked on however.
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If this is true, then that is really fucked. DB is not even a year old, I paid for six lifetime sessions, that would be a real shitty thing to do.
 
blacula said:
If this is true, then that is really fucked. DB is not even a year old, I paid for six lifetime sessions, that would be a real shitty thing to do.
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why would they waste time and money for a dead game?
 
i told about molten core exploding at the same time and place on mp 10
not a one core but like 3-4
without avoidance during wotb you need at least 900-1000 kk! EHP to survive

dunno my 708k ehp not enough
 
quadrotony said:
i told about molten core exploding at the same time and place on mp 10
not a one core but like 3-4
without avoidance during wotb you need at least 900-1000 kk! EHP to survive

dunno my 708k ehp not enough
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well i lied when i said wotb ignores avoidance, but the logic is in RefreshDiaObject.cs if you want to change it yourself
 
when avoid AOE, i always saw it go away then go back, go away, go back, then you dead.
 
quadrotony said:
no

WOTB just ignore avoidance at all
molten core too
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// Remove ice balls if the barbarian has wrath of the berserker up, and reduce health from most other SNO avoidances
if (PlayerStatus.ActorClass == ActorClass.Barbarian && Hotbar.Contains(SNOPower.Barbarian_WrathOfTheBerserker) && GetHasBuff(SNOPower.Barbarian_WrathOfTheBerserker))
{
if (c_ActorSNO == 223675 || c_ActorSNO == 402)
{
// Ignore ice-balls altogether with wrath up
ignoreAvoidance = true;
DbHelper.Log(TrinityLogLevel.Debug, LogCategory.Avoidance, "Ignoring avoidance as a Barbarian with WOTB");
}
else
{
// Use half-health for anything else except arcanes or desecrate with wrath up
if (c_ActorSNO == 219702 || c_ActorSNO == 221225)
{
// Arcane
ignoreAvoidance = true;
DbHelper.Log(TrinityLogLevel.Debug, LogCategory.Avoidance, "Ignoring avoidance as a Barbarian with WOTB");
}
else if (c_ActorSNO == 84608)
// Desecrator
minAvoidanceHealth *= 0.2;
else
// Anything else
minAvoidanceHealth *= 0.3;
}
}
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