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[Theory] Increase in bans due to 5.2

Blizzard is a business. They want money.

In my opinion 'most' all bans come from being reported from other players. That makes sense for a business to do. If no one complains and they are making the money I doubt they care. Over 65 accounts leveled with not one ban. Maybe its luck. Maybe its Karma. Either way I have had nothing but success from HB. Thank you to the devs!
 
webhond said:
So true





So wrong, even with bouncing on you run the same path from time to time, on the mm. No one but a botter runs the same pathing to the mm. Think again. Even when it might not be so much, it still is present.
You think bg with lazyraider is more safe? Didnt do anything BUT lazyraider RATED bg's for months. Got a perma ban 2 weeks ago on my main account. So no, its not safer, and the jumping... lol. ONLY gives it away more.
The moment you say screw em shows you dont care no more. You are trying to justify that nothing is detected in a way. Am i doing the opposite? Yes i do, at least i have a reason, untill now none of the dev's proved me
otherwise.

O and muffman, a new pathing for bg buddy is implemented, and ill stay with it that this has increased detection. It is more then clear that from the moment they pushed theyre update with pulse the map instead of click to
move pathing in several bg's ( not all ) it looks like they gave away something coding this. Its from that point the increase of bans started. Like blizzard implemented some path detection.

the only increase we will see is that clueless people will start to gear theyre toons at patch day, the people that dont read the forums, will soon flood it with theyre tears about wtf is going on.

It has nothing to do with stupid people, stupid botters, kids or whatever. These are longterm botters that are getting theyre farm slaughtered, carefull botters getting bitchslapped with bans. Lots of weird shit happening for 2 weeks now
and all we hear here is post a log and your doing it wrong. Just before a patch, someone needs to post a thread saying it for sure isnt a banwave. We all know that crap by now. What is it then, is the real question, since no one
seems to respond on anything but instead keeps closing threads and manipulating poll votes. This just shows me you devs know more then you say, cause theres no response whatsoever about whats going on.

Am i paranoid, i might be. Dont bot no more unattended, if i see a loading screen im about to shut down the bot cause i think its a teleport instead of a death to gy screen. I think we can all agree
that the bot is all but safe now, and all that is said atm, in several posts is anything to tell new customers that theres nothing wrong? realy?
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ofcourse lazyraider is safe for bg rbg arena pve raiding as you control the movement with clicktomove off and the bot is only casting the spells in rotation for healing or dps
 
zeldrak said:
Neither BG Buddy or Gatherbuddy is as safe as they once were, due to Blizzard's supposed improved pathing detection (or whatever they're calling it that detects you running the same path over and over, etc), so all I ever use mine for is Lazy Raider and Tyrael with my selected character and combat routine. It's sad because I no longer feel as safe and comfortable working my professions, so they have to be done by hand, which is extremely tedious and tiresome. And, with the lost safety of Gatherbuddy, it makes HB feel like an overly customizable PQR bot.

So yeah, with the changes in PvP and the gearing system, I would say that there are going to be more bans coming in because people just don't understand that BG Buddy is nowhere near as safe as it used to be, and pair that with the ability players have of reporting so easily, then you have for a higher influx of bans due to botting.
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Yea I read up on this, and decided to do something that would throw them off. I flew around for two hours non stop going all over Pandaria before finally coming back to the same location. I think they look for concentrated pathways, not multi-multi thousands of pathways. Randomize FTW.
 
well idk i've botted since about august or september. and i havent even got temp ban. then again ihardly leave my bot unattended. i guess its about how u go at it. and wht u use it for rllly. then agian 90% of the tiem i only use for questing and gathering. i hardly ever use bgbuddy or dungeonbuddy. it gets to glitch sometimes and its very obvious.... nonetheless. and recently i'v emade severle post about it. and devs dont care. they dont respond. so at this rate. hb will prolly fail eventualy. i mean u got ppl charging for cc's. cuz ppl making half ass'ed cc's so u buy there legit ones. i mean they cant even make singular or clu work correctly on release of updates. i mean mop has been on how many months now. abit rediculis if u ask me. singular still has movement issues with monk class. -.- but ya. for a product u have to pay for customer server is poor in my opinion. i understand that they can anser everyone in a timely fashion. but i mean come on seriously?
 
penis223 said:
watcha talkin yOO.

Try running BG Buddy 4hours and try gatherbuddy 4hours. Tell me what lasted longer
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Weird as it sounds, i seem to last longer running bg buddy. I farmed my way to bloodthursty.
 
asheliamarie said:
well idk i've botted since about august or september. and i havent even got temp ban. then again ihardly leave my bot unattended. i guess its about how u go at it. and wht u use it for rllly. then agian 90% of the tiem i only use for questing and gathering. i hardly ever use bgbuddy or dungeonbuddy. it gets to glitch sometimes and its very obvious.... nonetheless. and recently i'v emade severle post about it. and devs dont care. they dont respond. so at this rate. hb will prolly fail eventualy. i mean u got ppl charging for cc's. cuz ppl making half ass'ed cc's so u buy there legit ones. i mean they cant even make singular or clu work correctly on release of updates. i mean mop has been on how many months now. abit rediculis if u ask me. singular still has movement issues with monk class. -.- but ya. for a product u have to pay for customer server is poor in my opinion. i understand that they can anser everyone in a timely fashion. but i mean come on seriously?
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Could you rewrite that paragraph? thanks.
 
mishrathium said:
Blizzard is a business. They want money.

In my opinion 'most' all bans come from being reported from other players. That makes sense for a business to do. If no one complains and they are making the money I doubt they care. Over 65 accounts leveled with not one ban. Maybe its luck. Maybe its Karma. Either way I have had nothing but success from HB. Thank you to the devs!
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My theory is that Blizzard doesn't really care enough to make an effort to ban most botters unless they A) Are making personal profits from gold sale or B) Ruining other people's experiences due to "running" the economy. I've been questing (leveling), PVPing and grinding for mats for my own use for 8-12 hours a day for nearly 2 years. I've been "reported" at least 3 times from that I've been told and I never got anything...no warnings, no suspensions, no bans. I've never sold gold or put up more than 10 auctions up at a time (no more than 30 a week). Be smart and you don't really have to worry. You may be a botter, but you are also subscriber ($$$) and Blizzard knows this. If Blizzard really wanted to ban the majority of botters they could...but that would require a lot of man power they don't have due to recent lay-offs and they'd probably lose 20 percent of their subscribers I'd estimate, which is a large chunk of profit to lose.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I have been botting since LK came out. I made a lot of money and got only a few 72h bans since then. But lately something changed...
I have always been botting for 24 hours a day, even the last months, but suddenly they just started to care and bann us.
 
Have you ever looked at the WoW general forums? All they do is cry about bots in BG's, so I am guessing they feel the need to thin the herd and make it seem like they care.

I 100% believe they will only ban those who make it most obvious. Sure new accounts are getting sniped. I have botted the same 6 accounts since Cata launched daily and none have been hit.
 
brodiebites said:
Have you ever looked at the WoW general forums? All they do is cry about bots in BG's, so I am guessing they feel the need to thin the herd and make it seem like they care.

I 100% believe they will only ban those who make it most obvious. Sure new accounts are getting sniped. I have botted the same 6 accounts since Cata launched daily and none have been hit.
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I have to agree with you. The only account that have been banned in the past few months were new accounts (I wasn't watching the new ones), and they were only 72 hour bans. I started to bot the banned ones a couple days later (watching closer), and they all made it to max level with no issues. My mains were even on the same computer and they weren't touched.

Let's think about this from a business perspective...It's in Blizzard's best interested to keep everyone happy... if you're not getting reported, why would they honestly care to take your $15/month? If you get reported a lot, you are then causing problems to their overall user base, and then are forced to take action. Bot safer, apologize if you accidentally kill steal (monitor), and respond to whispers. You might find that Big brother is happy to take your money and look the other way if you aren't bothering others. Just what I've noticed over the years botting multiple games. Only times I've ever lost accounts, is when I was being Lazy. No matter if I was using macro bot or dll.

Higher % of Lazy = Higher % of Ban (you like the higher math I did there? lolz)

My 2 cents, feel free to flame... I have thick skin :}

-X
 
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