Should I just quit? Can someone comment if my math is wrong?

[cowboyx]

Now I am going into a net loss atm.

Battle chest 5 euro
Cata 8 euro
MOP 22 euro
Game card after free month 13 euro

SUM= 48 euro. Lets say i farm 10k gold per day and i sell at 0.25 euro per k because of chinese. That means I need roughly 20 days of farming to recover.

Leveling takes about 14 days with questing. That means I need 34 days to recover just to break even.

I know about the RAF free month and u can chain them blabalbal. I do do this. But im thinking in "worst" case scenario.

Problem is, some of my account dont even make it to 34 days. I currently have 10 x 72 hours suspension on my 16 accounts, 2 of them are permabanned.

Just quit or?

I already broke even this weak with total costs etc etc. But is it really worth it to invest more?

 

[xvampx]

Now I am going into a net loss atm.

Battle chest 5 euro
Cata 8 euro
MOP 22 euro
Game card after free month 13 euro

SUM= 48 euro. Lets say i farm 10k gold per day and i sell at 0.25 euro per k because of chinese. That means I need roughly 20 days of farming to recover.

Leveling takes about 14 days with questing. That means I need 34 days to recover just to break even.

I know about the RAF free month and u can chain them blabalbal. I do do this. But im thinking in "worst" case scenario.

Problem is, some of my account dont even make it to 34 days. I currently have 10 x 72 hours suspension on my 16 accounts, 2 of them are permabanned.

Just quit or?

I already broke even this weak with total costs etc etc. But is it really worth it to invest more?

Lvling took me (i just did this now!) from 1-85 was 10 days.
Then you have another 20 days in a month. Thats X 10K per day which equals to 200K.

200K at 0.25 per 1K= 50 euro.

Thats only in the free month.

So you would earn 50 euro, and have spend 35 euro. which equals to a 15 euro profit.

If the account lasts longer than 1 month, (lets say 2 months!)
That would add another 300K gold to sell

At 0.25 euro per 1K, thats, 75 euro.

Add that to the original 15 euro profit, and substract the cost of the gametimecard (13 euro) you got yourself 77 euro profit.

Also i don't know what you're doing, but making only 10K a day is very very little in my eyes.
I can make that much in a few hours easily.

Also to increase security and lower the banning odds, transfer the gold via guildbank to a vanilla account.

This'll increase the cost by 5 euro each month, but your accounts will last longer, thus getting you to gain more profit.

 

[xwozone]

give up

 

[cowboyx]

give up

Ok. Ty for the advice. That was what I thought too.

 

[rawrasaurus]

Ok. Ty for the advice. That was what I thought too.

Not sure if serious. Read the post above that one.. He makes a very good point, stick to it, minimize your costs and maximize your profits.

 

[UnicornFart]

Stop getting banned so much?

 

[MulinexMan]

Try to think of it from another perspective: avoid getting banned. Some creativity, not doing the ah with raw materials, reducing farming time to 8 hours a day tops, splitting over a whole day.
Also try to find private buyers, pvpers are good customers. Sell for .4/k and make an easy 100? pure profit per account - and that's just the first month with having to buy mop.
And avoid low pop servers - focus on highpop/midpop, preferable splitting 3-4 farmers on 2 servers (per account ofcourse).

 

[Ratz241]

It's been ban city the last 2 weeks so I'd take the 72h's on the chin and chill for a week then come back to your project.

 

[cowboyx]

Stop getting banned so much?

Ive tried everything. 8-10 hours with 10-20 min breaks. Private profiles.

 

[Giwin]

VM + New IP = fresh start.

Your being hunted...

 

[cowboyx]

Its not ban waves. Its single bans on different days and different times of the day.

 

[cowboyx]

Lvling took me (i just did this now!) from 1-85 was 10 days.
Then you have another 20 days in a month. Thats X 10K per day which equals to 200K.

200K at 0.25 per 1K= 50 euro.

Thats only in the free month.

So you would earn 50 euro, and have spend 35 euro. which equals to a 15 euro profit.

If the account lasts longer than 1 month, (lets say 2 months!)
That would add another 300K gold to sell

At 0.25 euro per 1K, thats, 75 euro.

Add that to the original 15 euro profit, and substract the cost of the gametimecard (13 euro) you got yourself 77 euro profit.

Also i don't know what you're doing, but making only 10K a day is very very little in my eyes.
I can make that much in a few hours easily.

Also to increase security and lower the banning odds, transfer the gold via guildbank to a vanilla account.

This'll increase the cost by 5 euro each month, but your accounts will last longer, thus getting you to gain more profit.

But how can you say from when ur lvl 85 u get 10k everyday?

 

[xvampx]

But how can you say from when ur lvl 85 u get 10k everyday?

havn't updated my signatures yet... i havn't been on the forums a lot, but saw this post and just wanted to help you out

Besides it's not all to hard. Like others said don't stick with jsut raw mats, do crafting etc, play the AH right and cash will keep flowing in.

 

[Skeletonboy360]

Just stop, I stopped and only play for fun now. Its great.

 

[tumbum]

havn't updated my signatures yet... i havn't been on the forums a lot, but saw this post and just wanted to help you out

Besides it's not all to hard. Like others said don't stick with jsut raw mats, do crafting etc, play the AH right and cash will keep flowing in.

Dont forget the Time you spend to lay Hands on WoW+HB + the Electricity +++. If this is just for Fun, i think its better the Stop, just play the Game with HB. If you want to do such a Business you have to do a lot more. I dont think 75€ is enough for all the Time you need to get this money.

 

[chrisrafa]

Now I am going into a net loss atm.



Problem is, some of my account dont even make it to 34 days. I currently have 10 x 72 hours suspension on my 16 accounts, 2 of them are permabanned.

Sorry to hear about all your bans..
I must just be one of the luckiest people here as i bot 24/7 and have done for about 4 months.

Never had a ban or suspension

Ofc I expect to get banned anytime.
But untill then i am happy at getting ?200/ month to pay for xbox games for my daughter and pet supplies for my doggies. It's amazing all the places that take paypal now.

I suggest changing how you operate,
Don't do the same stuff all the time,
Go on to the accounts and play them by hand once in a while, doing instances and just general chatter

 

[xvampx]

Dont forget the Time you spend to lay Hands on WoW+HB + the Electricity +++. If this is just for Fun, i think its better the Stop, just play the Game with HB. If you want to do such a Business you have to do a lot more. I dont think 75? is enough for all the Time you need to get this money.

That's with 1 account.
Multiply that with 20-30 accounts and you'll think of this on a whole other perspective

 

[tumbum]

That's with 1 account.
Multiply that with 20-30 accounts and you'll think of this on a whole other perspective

Yes thats right, but dont forget the Time! and Money you have to put into it, before you get this Money. But yes, you are right.

 

[Draganos]

yes! You must calculate your own time (IT IS WORTH ALOT ISNT IT?) and electricity and Administration of all the accounts to make the math serious. Calculation without own time is math of a 6years old Girl. be an adult. and you have to calculate all the wipeout bans like These days into it and again,cthe time you have to invest to restart again.

 

[Teveel]

It annoys me when people moan about levelling times on new accounts when they completely forget about RAF and how it lets you get back on track quick after bans, but to be honest there is too many kids playing at wow gold selling now anyway.