Will this PC run 16 WoW clients?

[bloodmarks]

I'm sorry if I came off in the wrong way, I definitely appreciate the heads up my friend, and will go with your advice and just buy 2 pc's place the 2nd one at my friends place.

or you could get more IP addresses for 1 PC and use different IP for WOW with either virtual machine (VMWARE) or some program for IP address customization

In case anyone's wondering, the pc cost is 1150$ including the downgrade of GFX and upgrade of CPU. It's the cheapest place in my country by far, and I've gotten ahold of a w7pro/enterprise/ultime.

that seems like robbery to me, very expensive country, same PC here would be $700 or less - that includes 20% tax (linux, not windows OS but you can always get windows for $0 here and install it afterwards yourself over linux)

Edit: Getting the i5-4670k is actually only 60$ more expensive than the i5-4570, and scores the same in comparison to the i7-4770 on the page where I looked at least. So I could keep the gfx and just upgrade the cpu to 4670k. Your thoughts?

I5 and I7 are very similar if you only play one game at a time, but you will be playing more (16 to be exact) games at same time, when you have at least 8 tasks (games) I7 is twice (two times) faster than I5 since it has 8 cores (with HT) and I5 just 4 cores

 

[jordi1104]

Also keep in mind electricity costs minor thing and internet costs which could be high in some countries I would also recommend you to have some antivirus installed just incase.

I used to have plans to run around 50 bots still have the computers etc but it wasn't worth my efforts anymore during banwaves etc.

 

[Giffystiffy]

I want at least 16 bots since I want to make some money from goldfarming, I have 24/7 freetime so I have every much of an opportunity than anyone else I figure. Also I have a cashflow that can get me through the start even if it will be rough. When I was younger I made a decent amount of money on goldselling, and with the current goldprices being what they are just to reseller chinese companies 0.4$/K, making 15k+/- a day per acc would be decently profitable(worth it compared to the worktime). I currently have 6 accounts lvl 85 half of them botting on the free trial as we speak, and like 10 lvl 20 trials. 3x d3 lvl 60s, 6 demonbuddy sessions and 3 wow. Obv buying more today.

Thx for the info on the i5vsi7, definitely getting the i7. And yea nice idea on the VMWare, I've actually used it before so should be easily handled. Still getting 2 comps tho since 2 friends of mine decided to join me on my crazy mission.


Both me and my new partners have 100mb internet included cheaply in the rent.

 

[jordi1104]

I want at least 16 bots since I want to make some money from goldfarming, I have 24/7 freetime so I have every much of an opportunity than anyone else I figure. Also I have a cashflow that can get me through the start even if it will be rough. When I was younger I made a decent amount of money on goldselling, and with the current goldprices being what they are just to reseller chinese companies 0.4$/K, making 15k+/- a day per acc would be decently profitable(worth it compared to the worktime). I currently have 6 accounts lvl 85 half of them botting on the free trial as we speak, and like 10 lvl 20 trials. 3x d3 lvl 60s, 6 demonbuddy sessions and 3 wow. Obv buying more today.

Thx for the info on the i5vsi7, definitely getting the i7. And yea nice idea on the VMWare, I've actually used it before so should be easily handled. Still getting 2 comps tho since 2 friends of mine decided to join me on my crazy mission.


Both me and my new partners have 100mb internet included cheaply in the rent.

You probably never saw any pics of people who goldfarm in china i'm outta this topic LOL.

5.4 means honorbuddy won't be working for a while could be few days maybe few weeks not sure yet so it would be wise to not invest anything for now.

That being sayd there are tons of people in china etc doing this for a living who have way more free time then you most likely people with employees 100's if not 1000's it's a large business factory's pretty much with 500 computers or more so you aren't in the best opportunity by far you most likely live in a country that's first world with first world prices so you are far far behind.

There's still money to be made I guess I woulden't be too worried about ip's etc but more about getting banned for using gatherbuddy when you look at the bansection it's full of it you need some schedule to go under the radar and some other things.

 

[frosticus]

you would be better of getting a job at McD's. can't get fired, work less hours and make more money.

 

[sup2266]

you would be better of getting a job at McD's. can't get fired, work less hours and make more money.

Not everyone is living in 1st world countries. Some people (myself included) got the option to either try to earn relatively easily some money by boting or try to get a job in a country with 15% unemployment rate, while that amount is doubled for young people (I am 22). It is very dificult to get a job without any previous experience.
Oh and average monthly income is 500 euro (inflated by earnings around our capital city so in reality for the rest of the country it is like 450 on average).

So would you rather work at McD?s for 500euro/month or try your luck with boting?

 

[frosticus]

i live on 800 bucks a month, with botting as my second job. you might want to listen to some of the advice given by people who are already living this life.

having a computer that will run 16 bots means nothing. i run 6 bots on my box and i make around $30 bucks a day, when all 6 are running. it keeps me busy all day long, leveling new accounts, running dungeons by hand so im not running around in greens. just the accounting part is overwhelming. 6-8 accounts-$15 per every month. electricity, money spent on computer upgrades to make the bots run smoother. time spent staring at a monitor figuring out what sells, because every jackass in the game is selling Green Tea Leaf. time spent making new profiles for zones with no competition, or a special profile to farm a specific item. Guild banks to keep mats stored back until prices rise.

botting is fun, you can make a little money botting, and there are special people out there that run 25-50 bots. but you get banned, hb breaks, your gold buyer rips you off. you get tired of buying $5 battlechests so you can trade gold.

its a headache. start low, learn as you go.

 

[El Fuego]

i live on 800 bucks a month, with botting as my second job. you might want to listen to some of the advice given by people who are already living this life.

having a computer that will run 16 bots means nothing. i run 6 bots on my box and i make around $30 bucks a day, when all 6 are running. it keeps me busy all day long, leveling new accounts, running dungeons by hand so im not running around in greens. just the accounting part is overwhelming. 6-8 accounts-$15 per every month. electricity, money spent on computer upgrades to make the bots run smoother. time spent staring at a monitor figuring out what sells, because every jackass in the game is selling Green Tea Leaf. time spent making new profiles for zones with no competition, or a special profile to farm a specific item. Guild banks to keep mats stored back until prices rise.

botting is fun, you can make a little money botting, and there are special people out there that run 25-50 bots. but you get banned, hb breaks, your gold buyer rips you off. you get tired of buying $5 battlechests so you can trade gold.

its a headache. start low, learn as you go.

This is very good advice to anyone just getting started with botting in today's WoW environment. You may have been a super-botter a few years ago before you quit, but I guarantee that things have changed quite a bit since you lasted touched WoW. Both in the WoW world as well as in the Botting world. HonorBuddy isn't even the same as it was at this time last year.

As for the PC... my advice from a technology standpoint is always the same, regardless of the application. Buy as much CPU and RAM as your budget will afford, followed by GFX Card. The rest is just support for these 3 items. (And yes, I am an IT professional for a living. This is my professional advice to clients and friends alike.)

 

[Markeen]

Whatever you do don't buy the current AMD CPU generation, they really screwed the pooch. Go for the current 1150 socket (i5, i7 4xxx) so you can upgrade with ease, i also wouldn't recommend AMD GPU's, there is always something with their software that they fuck up every time a new game comes out.

 

[x11r6]

i'll give you my 2 cents aswell.
i used to have a nice business going, i was about to buy a new computer because the 12 bots i was running at the beginning of this expansion weren't enough. Then winds changed, all my toons were banned, my PC was profiled and now i can't bot for more than 2 hours without having every single account logged from this computer permanently banned.
Changing mac address/network card does nothing, this pc can't simply be used to bot anymore.

Speaking of high end processors, Intel is a much better brand then AMD is. Futhermore, I feel like Intel is a more reliable platform.
If you plan to assebly a cheap build, you could consider AMD as an opportunity (cheap AMD processors perform just like cheap Intel processor, but they have a better integred graphic card).

Listen to those who suggest you to start small, to invest carefully. Botting is not an easy business as it used to be

 

[kravitz]

CPU will not can run 16 clients! Its a 2 core with HT ; with an 6100 FX i could run 12-15, buy intel its the best cpu for multi botting

It doesn't matter if it's 2 cores or 200 cores. What matters is throughput... OP will likely be able to run 10-12 clients on low settings, which is more than enough.

 

[frosticus]

i guess it depends on whether or not the OP's bot comp is going to be dedicated or is he going to use it for daily tasks as well.

i've got a better comp than he has listed and i can run 6 bots comfortably while watching hd video, extracting multiple archives, surfing the web on multiple browsers, 10 folders open, and converting video in the background.

so yeah, my max is 6

 

[whatcha413]

you will need Solid State drives to support it. regular hard drives suck

 

[Botanist]

Processor
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Max Turbo Frequency 3.9 GHz

Processor Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor

Cache Per Processor
8MB L3 Cache

Memory
16GB DDR3 1333

Hard Drive
500GB SATA II 7200RPM+120GB SATA II SSD

Optical Drive 1
24X DL DVD+/-RW Drive

Graphics
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 2GB

FTW

 

[zitz]

Here my some observations, because too much bullshit in this thread

Using processors:
1) E4500 - 2 cores, 2.2 GHz, L2-2MB (this "pain in the ass" installed on my working desktop) - now it disconnected, worst processor i ever seen
2) AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE - 4 cores, 3.2 GHz, L2-2MB, L3 - 6MB - heart of my home desktop several weeks ago, 8 bots, farming, AH, LFR, HS bots party mode (60-90% load), nice stone imo & cheap way for botting.
3) Core i5-2500 - 4 cores, 3.3 GHz + TB tech. = 3.7 GHz, L2-1MB, L3 - 6MB trying intel platform, same as Phenom II X4 955 BE but overall load about 40-70%, very interesting processor but price all system... its trully fail, 50% paying for brand.
4) FX6350 - 6 cores, 3.9 GHz + TB tech. = 4.2 GHz, L2-6MB, L3 - 8MB my current system, same as Phenom II X4 955 BE overall load about 15-40%, 1 core usually in off mode. Very good processor + very good price on all system components. (Last core always enabling when i playing in D3 when my bots hard working ). Here are some test results where i5-2500 beats FX6350 about 10%, but in true multi tasking mode, stone form amd, beats i5 about 30%.

They are (except E4500) testing on 16Gb Ram, GTX570, 1280x720, graphics settings set to normal

Result of my observation: Number of physic core + Frequency + Cache size - very important thing in botting. HT tech. by intel dosent useful fo us . It jast some lite optimization in overload mode (compress video&audio, real gaming or other shit). HB - very smart A.I. and we must give him some "computational power" with real cores + a ton of GHz

But intel core technology are very good in TDP section! Stones from amd very electric dependent, 125TDP its to much for home system, imo.

For 16WoW clients you need 8 core processor min or try Xeon technology + 32Gb Ram minimum.

So if you planning boting for home uses + lite income - intel. Planning buy cheap machine for normal boting + normal income - amd.

 

[chtpm]

I have 2 computers, I have an AMD 6 core with 16gb ram and 2gb gpu and an AMD 8 core 32gb ram and 3gb GPU.
Guess how many bots I run and then divide it by 10.
I also used to think that more bots = more money too, now I know it doesnt work like that (at least not for me).
To be honest I made more gold by manually prospecting and cutting meta gems in cata than I do with all the bots in the world now. I dont really think botting is the best business to invest in, however I'd love to see someone prove me wrong.

Good luck with 16 accounts.

 

[Macatho]

I've had bans from wowglider to hb through the times, and not since the 2nd huge glider banwave have more than 1 bot gotten banned at a time (yet always botting 2+ at the same time)

GMs are more vigilant now. I got a IP-ban last week, 37 accounts gone in a flash. They even banned accounts that were offline but played on the IP-adress couple of days earlier.

 

[bloodmarks]

you will need Solid State drives to support it. regular hard drives suck

first solid state drive is less than $50 (64GB total should be more than enough with VMWARE or windows deduplication)
second with 32GB ram most of WOW is cached anyway and IOPS is pretty low, no need for SSD, helps but you can always wait few seconds between load screens